poll Poll Feedback / Should employee votes count?

[equity78]

As many know we have this year's Best Registrar for 2020 poll running. For the first time it's public voting, so you can click on a number and see who voted for who.

Many believe that employees votes should not count when it comes to determining a winner. Others have said it makes it useless. One person messaged me everthing on Namepros is now useless because of Epik and their many employees here.

I see it as a complex problem, I think someone like a @DanSanchez would have voted for Epik whether he was working with Epik or not. Is his vote voided because he was here and then joined Epik?

Believe it or not, whether members like it or not, winning best Registrar here has mattered to registrars.

So should we not count the votes of noted employees, meaning I can go through the finished vote tally and look at the members who voted for each, if I see Dan Sanchez for Epik I deduct it, if I see Joe Styler for GoDaddy, deduct it.

Or should all votes count and that is the legitimate winner? We have time to vote on this as the registrar vote does not conclude til the end of March.

 

[HotKey]

I'm interested in a poll of consumer experience.

Yes you can be employed by a company and still use its services and have an opinion about it, but personally I prefer to see ratings results based on people who are customers only.

Employees are also customers..

It is for this reason alone, these kinds of polls, if not most, should be kept confidential. Having a poll where whom voted for what compromises the integrity of poll, because privacy is being taken out of the equation, thus potentially affecting a voter's choice. If you know your employer can see what your voting for, how likely are you to vote for anything other than that of what you're employed by?

Same goes for any other scenario, not just employment. I think keeping voting private keeps things honest, whereas a publicly view able vote is skewed by group-think or the potential backlash of voicing something otherwise kept to one's self, not yet ready for prime time.

 

[boker]

I believe in business there is a very clear distinction between customers and employees,

Employees and even their immediate family members are usually not allowed to participate in promotional contests or drawings held by their employer, also I don't believe that employees are allowed to write reviews for the products and services that belong to the company that they work for.

So I believe that employees should voluntarily stay away from voting for the Registrar that they work for or at the very least there should be a mechanism in the poll that could allow them to indicate that they were voting as an employee.

IMO

So, If I'm a Nike, Facebook, Amazon, Ebay fan and I'm using their products, I can't be hired by them? The probability to work for them is even higher, because I like them already. Also, somebody will prohibit me to leave a review for them? I never heard of any of the big players in the 'review' market to prohibit this. Even more, you have knowledge from inside and you can leave an even more accurate review. The main part will be for my review to not divulge my identity, so that I will have issues at work, everything else it's just reality.

 

[tonyk2000]

Newly-registered accounts have not been able to vote in any polls this year,

It makes sense. However, on a spot view, each of 3 leading registrars in this poll received votes also from members who joined in 2020, including March of this year. Why is this? If somebody wants to manipulate the results, his 1st choice would be to generate new members "voting" for somebody...

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed

That would have to be an added option as just a member starting a thread in general discussion you don't have that option or I would have because I believe it can be used to pollute the waters.

An option is currently being developed and will be available soon.

 

[bmugford]

My prediction is then we are going to need another poll, to vote on if we should remove the employees votes from this poll.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

The United States democracy system allows those working for elected officials to vote. In fact, a poll candidate can vote for themselves. Other democracies also follow this model.

I see no reason to start an unreasonable movement to decide who votes and who doesn't. The whole idea of influencing, or deciding who gets to vote for what, is anti-democracy and at that point a poll really isn't painting a clear picture.

You are being a little bit dramatic.

This is some stupid popularity contest on a forum, not a contest to determine the leader of the free world.

This result will not change how people actually vote when it comes to business, with their wallet.

Brad

 

[Shaan Chopra]

Voting is always private, create a poll where employes have a choice, my be Dan Sanchez wants to vote for Godaddy and Joe Styler wants to vote for Epik. With polls like this do you think it is possible? And yes everyone has the right to vote. Why create a poll where you can see who is voting for whom. The current poll is fake and I would request to do another poll, an actual poll. Privacy should be maintained in voting.

 

[Samer]

Voting is always private, create a poll where employes have a choice, my be Dan Sanchez wants to vote for Godaddy and Joe Styler wants to vote for Epik. With polls like this do you think it is possible? And yes everyone has the right to vote. Why create a poll where you can see who is voting for whom. The current poll is fake and I would request to do another poll, an actual poll. Privacy should be maintained in voting.

Why? Should Stand behind what you vote for?

We arent voting for the president.

Samer

 

[Samer]

What are you getting out of knowing who is voting for what?

Not me. the complainers who say employee “skew” polls.(they dont)

Transparency deters “trolls” from voters like...

I really want Network solution voter to explain would be more satire votes, be less reliable if dont have faith vote enough put name behind

 

[Shaan Chopra]

Not me. the complainers who say employee “skew” polls.(they dont)

Transparency (deters trolls from votes like)

I really want Network solution voter to explain.
(there would be a lot more satire votes, poll would be less reliable)

Samer that is what I am saying, polls should be private, why did this poll start in the first place because the earlier poll was not private. Everyone could see who is voting for what. Then we have everyone trolling about removing votes increasing the votes. Can I change my vote oh yes I can. If polls are going to have TnC applied then there is no fun in voting.

 

[Samer]

Samer that is what I am saying, polls should be private, why did this poll start in the first place because the earlier poll was not private. Everyone could see who is voting for what. Then we have everyone trolling about removing votes increasing the votes. Can I change my vote oh yes I can. If polls are going to have TnC applied then there is no fun in voting.

There is no fun in voting when private polls skew more, when it makes anonymous ppl vote for the $35 .com registrars “troll”

 

[Name Trader]

Nope. Employees should not be able to vote for their Employers. It kinda throws some doubt as to whether the results are skewed or not. It looks so far, that they might be. There should be an additional item in the poll. "I am a an employee of a Registrar, I cast my vote here." Any employee who has already voted should be requested to change their vote to that option.

 

[ResoluteDomains]

I believe in business there is a very clear distinction between customers and employees,

Employees and even their immediate family members are usually not allowed to participate in promotional contests or drawings held by their employer, also I don't believe that employees are allowed to write reviews for the products and services that belong to the company that they work for.

So I believe that employees should voluntarily stay away from voting for the Registrar that they work for or at the very least there should be a mechanism in the poll that could allow them to indicate that they were voting as an employee.

IMO

You make a great point as well!

 

[lock]

If you don't vote Lock your letting your team down...…...

 

[Pay.My.id]

I feel that Namepros isn't measurement registrars quality , actually its really difficult to know how and why . More importantly, poll , survey, study or whatever measurement in any specific registrar is just the beginning, not the end for final quality. Respect and understanding many registrar are one of key to move our portfolio whenever we want to go.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Either NamePros allows full participation to every member here no matter who employs them or they don't. That would be up to them to decide what to change if anything regarding staff.

I am not sure a poll on a forum is worth censorship and basically treating employees like lesser beings here.

Our position is always to treat everyone as equals.

100% of NamePros members should be allowed to vote simply because there was no request for employees not to vote.

Beyond that it's up to the person starting any poll to make stipulations if they want any.

Agreed. We wrote something similar in the following post:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7677173/

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Should employee votes count?

It's possible that if votes in a poll are public, then employees may feel pressured (whether implicitly or explicitly) to vote for their employer in fear of their employer seeing that they prefer a competitor, which may not necessarily get them fired but may create unwanted tension in the workplace.

The answer to this question may be different based on whether that pressure exists (the votes are public) or not (the votes are private).

A solution to that could be a new poll option that only allows the poll creator to see who voted for each choice, but employees may still worry the poll creator will release their vote publicly (or to their employer privately). If the poll creator is trustworthy and states that they will not disclose any particular member's vote, then it might work.

Is this option worth adding to polls?

 

[Name Trader]

It's possible that if votes in a poll are public, then employees may feel pressured (whether implicitly or explicitly) to vote for their employer in fear of their employer seeing that they prefer a competitor, which may not necessarily get them fired but may create unwanted tension in the workplace.

The answer to this question may be different based on whether that pressure exists (the votes are public) or not (the votes are private).

A solution to that could be a new poll option that only allows the poll creator to see who voted for each choice, but employees may still worry the poll creator will release their vote publicly (or to their employer privately). If the poll creator is trustworthy and states that they will not disclose any particular member's vote, then it might work.

Is this option worth adding to polls?

Yes. If the poll creator has explained that employees of companies cannot vote for their employer. And if they do, their vote will be removed, without any fanfare. Just quietly removed. I don't see this as being a restriction on their rights as a member of NPs. It's trying to arrive at an untainted results from a poll. If that is not acceptable, then consider the opposite. They can vote in any and all polls, rendering them tainted, so ban any polls which might cause employees to vote for the employers, instead. I think I would prefer the former option. Another alternative would be to remove their employee badges. So we wouldn't know who these people are.

 

[7363824]

Biggest company buys most votes simple. Employ to vote.

I dont think so. Godaddy would be the biggest and well the results speak for themselves.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

It makes sense. However, on a spot view, each of 3 leading registrars in this poll received votes also from members who joined in 2020, including March of this year. Why is this?

It's based on more than just the registration date, but the registration date is also a limiting factor. There are members who registered recently and expressed their opinion in the thread because they could not vote in the poll.

In the future, there will be an option to remove votes of members who registered after a poll was created, but currently, the limiting factors are not based on when any particular poll started.

Note: We aren't going to discuss too many specifics publicly because that would teach members how to manipulate polls.

 

[NickB]

Poll Feedback:

I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed

To many people are using this as a chance to bash other registrars as well as constantly posting defensive comments and currying votes for their favourites........there is no need for it.

Cast your vote and be done with it, if needed after the vote has closed create a follow up thread on why people voted the way they did...

There also needs to be some sort of governance on negative promotion (posting constant disparaging comments about registrars)

Employee vote Feedback:

Personally don't think any employee votes should count towards the total, this is for all registrars.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Hi

Can strippers vote on which pole, they want to swing on?

now, whether they can or they can't,

biggie says "I don't give a they still gotta swing"

so, it doesn't matter.... does it?

well, it's same thing with these who da best polls

strippers gotta swing, and they gotta have poles

check online, there may be discounts at the door

imo….

If there is/was a way to nominate a best or funniest comment of the year, (thus far in 2020)
the attached quoted post from biggie would earn my vote.

 

[equity78]

Poll Feedback:

I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed

To many people are using this as a chance to bash other registrars as well as constantly posting defensive comments and currying votes for their favourites........there is no need for it.

Cast your vote and be done with it, if needed after the vote has closed create a follow up thread on why people voted the way they did...

There also needs to be some sort of governance on negative promotion (posting constant disparaging comments about registrars)

Employee vote Feedback:

Personally don't think any employee votes should count towards the total, this is for all registrars.

That would have to be an added option as just a member starting a thread in general discussion you don't have that option or I would have because I believe it can be used to pollute the waters. I still believe Epik would have won.

 

[Name Trader]

As far as NamePros goes in my opinion if a member here is giving an opinion about a certain Registrar then they need to disclose whether they are somehow connected to that Registrar or not.

Of course this just how I feel about this, you are entitled to think differently, but I am interested to know what others have to say about this issue.

IMO

Agree

 

[lock]

Biggest company buys most votes simple. Employ to vote.