GF said:
*Disclaimer: GF is speaking as an individual, and does not represent NamePros.com with this statement; NamePros.com does not endorse any of the following statements which I am about to make*
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I think Obama deserves the respect that you give to someone unqualified to manage a McDonalds franchise (quoting a friend), who pals around with terrorists (William Ayers), felons (Tony Rezko), and with a pastor (Jeremiah Wright) who not only hates America, but alao gives great praise to the huge anti-Semite Louis Farakkhan.
John McCain has turned into a coward and deserves to lose this election. Americans have a right to express their outrage and disgust with the free ride that a piece of garbage Chicago politician like Barack Obama has received.
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- GF
No, it means that the media and polling outfits are too biased to even ask about Bob Barr (Libertarian), Ralph Nader (Green?), and Ron James (NamePros Freedom and Liberty Party)
- GF
hey GF, can i play devils advocate with you? just to see where your comming from. i honestly mean absolutely no disrespect. I mean you have a right to hate Obama as much as you want, It's your american right...imo...lol
But you did used some strong language there....causing me to wonder about a few things
You say that Obama 'pals around with terrorists'. Don't you think the word terrorist is used a little too liberally these days? I mean, anybody can be terrorist or a fanatic....
I believe that all Americans have a right to be heard and represented, don't we? First it started out that the enemy was al qaeda, then the iraqis, then, then the muslim extremists, then american muslim sleeper cells. Now the enemy are Americans of any religon that say or believe things that you don't agree with. Any american can become an enemy or a terrorist. That should all give us pause.
I think the biggest problem facing our country is that pple don't listen to one another....or are apathetic to their pain and hardship of others.
Sarah Palin likes to talk about "America' as if 'America' is a real person. America this and America that. America and her freedom. America and her allies. blah blah blah. After 9/11 anybody that disagreed with 'America' or said anything against 'Her' were unpatriotic, a fanatic, and radical.
Do you think that slavery in this country was a good thing? Do you think segregation was a good thing? Do you think that the vote of a black man should not be counted the same of that of a white man? Do you think women shouldn't vote? If not, then at some point in this country, people like Palin would have called you a radical or a fanatic.
I think the that the main reason why the republicans are getting their a$$es handed to them is because they are forgetting that this America is not a person. Instead, this country is made up of AMERICANS from all walks of life, different religions, and different views. For the past 8 years, the government (president, congress, AND supreme court) has turned a deaf ear to Americans...the president is the worst offender in this case, imo. Well, now Americans are are feeling pretty jaded right now. But the McPalin camp aren't talking to these people...they are only talking to their base and fueling them with hate, anger, and fear.
You know, i don't agree with what pple like jeremiah wright or Louise farrakhan said. I think people like farrakhan have done a lot of wrong in the past...is there ever a time that they can make up for the things that they've said?
Having said that, have you honestly ever listened to farakan's old speeches? i'm not talking about clips, snippets, or spin from the media either....i'm talking about a whole speech. I mean, you call him a radical. I wonder if you've every really heard anything he's said. I have listened to farakan's speeches. I have a habit of listening to stuff like that, because i hate people telling me what I should think of other people. When somebody say's that person is a radical or this person is a terrorist, i want to find out for myself if that is true.
I don't agree with the guy, but i wouldn't call him a radical either....just a guy with strong and strange opinions.
As for Ayers, don't you think that America during the Vietnam war was different than it is today? I wasn't born during the Vietnam war, but from what I've read about America during that time, it seems to me that the government ignored the voice of Americans. There were all sorts of social unrest from a lot of different groups during that time. Unless I'm mistaken, this Ayers person plotted to attack the government, not civilians, and while that does not condone his actions, i think he paid his debt to society and is a respected professor that is well known among republicans and democrats alike. Would you still call him a terrorist today?
Should muslim Americans have a voice? Should they have representatives in government? Shouldn't they have a right to be a part of US politics? Do you think people like Palin listen to people them...or do you think they should just continue to pretend that they don't exist in this country?
The neo cons have ripped obama about being muslim, having been associated with muslims as if it is a plague of some sort....and while i know that Obama is catholic, when i hear the right rip islam the way they do, it makes me weary voting for them. And when i hear people at McPain rallies say 'Off with his head' 'Kill him' 'He's a Muslim'...to be honest, that's worse..more radical...more hateful than anything Jemimah Wright may have ever said.
You strongly disagree with Obama...ok...i understand that. But if he is elected president, shouldn't your voice still be heard? See, when i hear the McPain camp speak...they are only talking to a select few. But when i hear obama speak, he is speaking (intelligently) to the whole country....white, black, christian, jew, (i would add muslim but that has a negative meaning now a days unfortunately), liberal, conservative, .... even people that don't agree with him...that's why he's well liked.
There are just as many radicals over on the Mccain camp, and i'm sure that Mccain has associations with shady characters. I am not voting for mccain --NOT because of who he knows or who he knew, but i'm not voting for him because i don't agree with his policies, i don't think he's fit for the job, and i don't think he has the right decision making abilities needed for president.
As for ron paul....the reason why he's not on the ballot is because he's too good for this country. everything that has come out from his mouth has been contradictory to the republican message of the last decade....or generation if you want to get technical.
If people really want a change in this country, they need to turn off the tv, stop listening to the spin that is out there, and taking part in their community. I refused to believe that his country falls into one of two political ideologies....but since media is the king of manipulation (especially talk radio) this will never happen...people will believe things because of the hype and spin...imo
Like i said, no disrespect to you......
