domain Please Appraise BRISTOLHotel.biz, TAHITIhotel.info, OXFORDhotel.info, more inside..

[rjeatlantic]

All of these domains use major tourism cities. The numbers on the right are google keyword searches per month (in thousands).

BRISTOLHotel.biz ... 301 world 27.1 local

hotelBIRMINGHAM.biz ... 165 world 27.1 local

hotelCAMBRIDGE.biz ... 110 world 27.1 local

hotelCHENNAI.biz ... 135 world 9.9 local

hotelLIVERPOOL.biz ... 135 world 6.6 local

OXFORDhotel.biz ... 135 world 18.1 local



hotelBIRMINGHAM.info ... 165 world 27.1 local

BRISTOLHotel.info ... 301 world 27.1 local

hotelCAMBRIDGE.info ... 110 world 27.1 local

hotelCHENNAI.info ... 135 world 9.9 local

hotelHELSINKI.info ... 49.5 world 4.4 local

hotelLIVERPOOL.info ... 135 world 6.6 local

hotelNANJING.info ... 9.9 world 1.6 local

hotelXIAN.info ... 18.1 world 3.6 local

KUNMINGhotels.info ... 1.9 world .5 local

NEWDELHIhotel.info ... 60.5 world 8.1 local

OXFORDhotel.info ... 135 world 18.1 local

TAHITIhotel.info ... 22.2 world 3.6 local

TIANJINhotels.info ... 8.1 world 1.3 local



PERHENTIANhotels.com ... 4.4 world - local

SALVADORDEBAHIAhotels.com ... 6.6 world - local


hotelHAVANA.net This is a hotel company. I looked up the TM and it said it only applied to the image only. Would be nice to get some 2nd opinions.

Any input would be appreciated.

edit: waiting for microguy to tell me reg fee

 

[rjeatlantic]

Friendly bump

 

[Sparhawke]

You made a small error, you should ignore broad matches and go straight to the exact; a broad match will look to see if the words are there regardless of the context and therefore the numbers are often wildly inaccurate for our purposes

"Bristol Hotel" and "Kunming Hotels" actually get 9.9k and 590 respectively

However, even these numbers are not enough to save them...a .biz is generally a bad idea to start with, they only really perform well with single keywords, geographics and massively selling items or services.

The more words you shove in there in order to get it the more the value crumbles if they had any to start with :p

CreditCard.biz might be worth many tens of thousands, BestCreditCard.biz you couldn't get $100

With that in mind if you want to try your luck with .biz (though I wouldn't bother) you should stick to MAJOR cities like London, Berlin, Paris or Tokyo where everyone is trying to get a domain and competition is fierce

You don't need Microguy to tell you reg fee, I will gladly do it lol

Don't use .biz or .info for geographic business names, just use them for one or the other but NEVER both...use a .com only or the country code if it happens to be sustainable.

Also try to get the city name/business name format if you can, they tend to have higher values

Get a grace delete

 

[holyroller]

If you can't get a grace delete, you could always just put minisites on them and signup to an affiliate program for hotel bookings.

Of course as mentioned by Sparhawke, competition is fierce. Its going to take a lot of work to get these ranking well and make decent revenue from, do you have the time and resources to do this?

 

[rjeatlantic]

You made a small error, you should ignore broad matches and go straight to the exact; a broad match will look to see if the words are there regardless of the context and therefore the numbers are often wildly inaccurate for our purposes

"Bristol Hotel" and "Kunming Hotels" actually get 9.9k and 590 respectively

I'm not sure what you mean. I used google's traffic estimator to get those numbers. The keyword "bristol hotel" gets 301k world searches a month.

However, even these numbers are not enough to save them...a .biz is generally a bad idea to start with, they only really perform well with single keywords, geographics and massively selling items or services.

The more words you shove in there in order to get it the more the value crumbles if they had any to start with :p

CreditCard.biz might be worth many tens of thousands, BestCreditCard.biz you couldn't get $100

With that in mind if you want to try your luck with .biz (though I wouldn't bother) you should stick to MAJOR cities like London, Berlin, Paris or Tokyo where everyone is trying to get a domain and competition is fierce

You don't need Microguy to tell you reg fee, I will gladly do it lol

Don't use .biz or .info for geographic business names, just use them for one or the other but NEVER both...use a .com only or the country code if it happens to be sustainable.

Also try to get the city name/business name format if you can, they tend to have higher values

Thank you very much. Very useful advice. What about the .coms though? Salvador de Bahia is a large tourism city in Brazil. Tourism is one of their biggest industries. The Perhentian Islands' economy is damn near all tourism. However they get much fewer visitors than Salvador de Bahia, mainly honeymooners. Also, I found out there's a hotel called "Bristol Hotel." How would that affect the value of bristolhotel.info?

If you can't get a grace delete, you could always just put minisites on them and signup to an affiliate program for hotel bookings.

Of course as mentioned by Sparhawke, competition is fierce. Its going to take a lot of work to get these ranking well and make decent revenue from, do you have the time and resources to do this?

I have all the time in the world. For some of the keywords it would be impossible but if I could just make a few of them work I could turn this lot into a positive investment.

 

[Sparhawke]

You only looked at the broad matches, which is what we all do to begin with but your search for "Bristol Hotels" could include everything from that search to "I went to Bristol and my pet Chisinau shit all over the concierges foot outside the Hotel"

Even though it includes your words "Bristol" and "Hotel" it is not in the least bit helpful as it is too broad.

Only ever look at [exact] searches as that will tell you how many people are looking for what you want

[London Hotels] would have some serious value even if you got it in .biz because of the huge competition, (there is something like 25,000 hotels and B&Bs in and around London) tiny towns have absolutely no value I am sorry to say

 

[rjeatlantic]

You only looked at the broad matches, which is what we all do to begin with but your search for "Bristol Hotels" could incluse everything from that search to "I went to Bristol and my pet Chisinau shit all over the concierges foot outside the Hotel"

Even though it includes your words "Bristol" and "Hotel" it is not in the least bit helpful as it is too broad.

Only ever look at [exact] searches as that will tell you how many people are looking for what you want

See, you're talking about search results, which is a totally different thing. Keyword traffic means people type "bristol hotel" into google 300k times a month. Search results means after they hit enter x number of pages were found. I'm still confused though because you said there were only 9k exact matches but I just put "bristol hotel" into google and got back 700k pages.

 

[Sparhawke]

I am not saying this to be mean or nasty, I am trying to tell you in the nicest possible way to stop and look at what you are doing and avoid a train wreck you are inevitably going to come across...

I am not talking about search results; if I search for only "bristol hotel" in Google Keywords I find 9900 requests rather than 102k pages where it is seen where you must obviously be looking, if I search for it in the keyword tool I find it in the EXACT field only 9.9k times...

That many searches would be a bloody good thing for a .com but you do not have it, you have a .biz which is generally speaking 1% of the value if that. I once went after "Hairdressing.com" and I would have to pay $500,000 for it, for the .biz they were asking for $1000

I know it is a hard lesson to learn but please listen to me, at the end of the day it is not my money you are throwing up the wall after a piss-up at a bar

 

[rjeatlantic]

I am not saying this to be mean or nasty, I am trying to tell you in the nicest possible way to stop and look at what you are doing and avoid a train wreck you are inevitably going to come across...

I am not talking about search results; if I search for only "bristol hotel" in Google Keywords I find 9900 requests rather than 102k pages where it is seen where you must obviously be looking, if I search for it in the keyword tool I find it in the EXACT field only 9.9k times...

That many searches would be a bloody good thing for a .com but you do not have it, you have a .biz which is generally speaking 1% of the value if that. I once went after "Hairdressing.com" and I would have to pay $500,000 for it, for the .biz they were asking for $1000

I know it is a hard lesson to learn but please listen to me, at the end of the day it is not my money you are throwing up the wall after a piss-up at a bar

God, I can't believe I've been it doing wrong this whole time. I feel like I should reevaluate my life now.

 

[MicroGuy]

I feel like I should reevaluate my life now.

I try to adjust daily. Stick with .COM and before you know it you'll be back from the "dark side".

 

[johname]

The one I checked looks like it was reg yesterday. You can beg godaddy for a refund. See MicroGuys video below for a general concept if what a grace delete is, and perhaps a different way of tossing the fish.info back in the water.