.tv Outlook for 7-figures .TV sales

[easygoing]

hello .TV veterans,

Regarding "the highest-end" .TV names:

Let us take for example these 20 names: newyork.TV, realestate.TV, golf.TV, london.TV, baby.tv, cartoons.TV, china.TV, religion.TV, comedy.TV, india.TV, technology.TV, soccer.TV, paris.TV, money.TV, cooking.TV, fashion.TV, games.TV, crafts.TV, jerusalem.TV, dubai.TV

Assuming a .TV name of this caliber is not burdened by an excessive yearly renewal fee, a valuation of 6-figures is a given in my opinion even in this near-depression economy.

Therefore, I need to lean on your experience and judgement...My question to you is very specific to these caliber type of names: Looking ahead to better economic times, say a 3 to 5 years outlook. Can you envision such top-echelon .TV names selling for 7-figures?

Many thanks ahead for all .TV visionaries for their opinion and outlook...

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Welcome aboard Dr EasyGoing.

I think the prognosis for you clients is very good. They may see a life of seven figures in the future, but my bigger fear today is: will they see a 'brand' knock-out in the short-term?

Perhaps the person who once owned auctions.com never really thought that a name like eBay would come along.

Perhaps the names should be unparked and used with gusto every day. It might keep them fit and healthy!


If you are who we have been expecting - your belief in the future of TV has already been proved and you are to be congratulated.

 

[MicroGuy]

In my view, the biggest obstacle today for .TV is long-term pricing stability.

Yes, a high six-figure sale is VERY possible within 5 years, but only if the stars can be aligned properly. Currently there is osmos' in the cosmos.

Verisign and Demand Media have taken a shaky extension and brutally knocked the legs out from under it. This has come in many forms including premium renewal 'jack-i-tis' and general cricketness regarding important legal matters.

 

[localexperts]

for seven figure sales to occur, three things will have to occur (independent of macro-economics)

1) Brand Recognition - Increased development and promotion of DOT TV sites.

2) Increased Direct Navigation - Development will lead to more people typing in NewYork.TV to see what is there, just like they do today with NewYork.com. I would say Direct Navigation needs to increase 10X-20X from current levels to levels where one could build a business soley on the type in traffic - without the need to actively promote the site thru purchased traffic. The vast majority of DOT COM sites rely solely on grassroots marketing , direct navigation traffic, and SEO

3) Domain age - to get high placement on Google some of these domains need to age. Some need to be developed, fail, and then get resold to tap full potential.

 

[cityforums.com]

In my view, the biggest obstacle today for .TV is long-term pricing stability.

Yes, a high six-figure sale is VERY possible within 5 years, but only if the stars can be aligned properly. Currently there is osmos' in the cosmos.

Verisign and Demand Media have taken a shaky extension and brutally knocked the legs out from under it. This has come in many forms including premium renewal 'jack-i-tis' and general cricketness regarding important legal matters.

I would have to agree with Greg ... uncertainty in pricing = uncertainty in profits which reduces the prospects for .TV

Also I wouldn't discount the leakage to .com by developping the .tv like some do.

 

[dreamscometrue]

What "uncertainty" are you speaking of?

Unless your domain drops, the price--is--the--price. (pending behind the scenes negotiations of course).

The future of the Internet is being fueled by the "new age",...both individuals, and technologies.

Your grandmother may not understand it, but I'm not interested in her participation anyway. She is one of the many who "direct navigate" because she hasn't heard of Google either. Times change, they are as we speak.

The majority of the world, under 25 has no problem comprehending TV for .TV.

The reality is, many of the major media companies are still "learning". Newspapers don't have "video/multi-media" teams on deck, yet--in the future they'll have (NO) choice. Same with other startups and web entrepreneurs, across the board--the media re-invention, quite literally means *everyone is trying to learn--and grow into the next generation of design and development to meet the expectations of not only users/consumers by advertisers alike.

Seven-figure sale? I believe so. I have no clue what name it might be, but I have a good feeling... RealEstate.TV, Sex.TV, Porn.TV, Sports.TV, etc...have the best shot. Rumor has it, RealEstate.TV isn't far away...

LasVegas.TV, Dubai.TV, and a few other GEO domains also could be contenders given the situation, metrics of potential development.

The reality is, things take time. Are you willing to wait, better yet, can you afford to?


NY

 

[mckennaronnie]

What "uncertainty" are you speaking of?

Unless your domain drops, the price--is--the--price. (pending behind the scenes negotiations of course).

The future of the Internet is being fueled by the "new age",...both individuals, and technologies.

Your grandmother may not understand it, but I'm not interested in her participation anyway. She is one of the many who "direct navigate" because she hasn't heard of Google either. Times change, they are as we speak.

The majority of the world, under 25 has no problem comprehending TV for .TV.

The reality is, many of the major media companies are still "learning". Newspapers don't have "video/multi-media" teams on deck, yet--in the future they'll have (NO) choice. Same with other startups and web entrepreneurs, across the board--the media re-invention, quite literally means *everyone is trying to learn--and grow into the next generation of design and development to meet the expectations of not only users/consumers by advertisers alike.

Seven-figure sale? I believe so. I have no clue what name it might be, but I have a good feeling... RealEstate.TV, Sex.TV, Porn.TV, Sports.TV, etc...have the best shot. Rumor has it, RealEstate.TV isn't far away...

LasVegas.TV, Dubai.TV, and a few other GEO domains also could be contenders given the situation, metrics of potential development.

The reality is, things take time. Are you willing to wait, better yet, can you afford to?


NY

Says just about everything i would if i wasnt too lazy to type tonight,

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Most likely you will see more 6 figure sales, I think .tv will have seven figure sales but it will be a few years, and it might actually be more about a .tv developed web site then just a name.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Regardless of the domain - the way the economy is going I think inflation alone will ensure a seven figure sum quite soon.

My football team (soccer) are supposedly spending $150million on one player (Kaka) so anything is possible.

 

[dreamscometrue]

Lets take a minute to see where the money (big money) is going in DOT TV land...

uStream.TV (reported: turned down $50 mm from Microsoft)
Surface.TV (reported: acquired domain for $27,000 by Microsoft)
Navic.TV (Acquired for $300 mm by Microsoft)

LX.TV (reported: developed network+domain sold for $10 mm by NBC)

TurnHere.TV (funding - $8.5 mm - Hearst)
Fora.TV (funding - $4 mm - Hearst)

Syndicaster.TV (funding - $6.2 mm)
Pandora.TV (funding - $6 mm)
Kyte.TV (funding - $5.6 mm)
Vpod.TV (funding - $5.1 mm)
BrightRoll.TV (funding - $5 mm)
Knocka.TV (funding - $5 mm)
TripR.TV (funding - $4.8 mm)
Overlay.TV (funding - $4.6 mm)
BlinkX.TV (funding - $2 mm)
VideoClix.TV (funding - $1 mm)
Mesmo.TV (funding - $1 mm)

I haven't done any research in several weeks, I'm sure I'm missing a few...




NY

 

[cityforums.com]

What about leakage to .com ? ... the more money
you put in to the .TV domain the happier the .com owner
will be ... ask Al Gore :cy:

 

[dreamscometrue]

Although some interest and type-ins will occur, your statement is stretched *way out of proportion.

"Leakage" does not fill the shoes of the "Hype" presented by many anti- dot tv investors. Not even close. The days of the "invisible and immortal" dot com...are changing. You don't "NEED" it, period. Make no mistake about the value and supply and demand of the dot com brand, (recognition and traffic), being *highly valued, but I am talking about generic, category-killer, DOT TV domains as *developed stand-alone URL brands and revenue producing companies. Not in terms of PPC pinching and day trading. Real world business.


NY

 

[Len]

Lets take a minute to see where the money (big money) is going in DOT TV land...

uStream.TV (reported: turned down $50 mm from Microsoft)
Surface.TV (reported: acquired domain for $27,000 by Microsoft)
Navic.TV (Acquired for $300 mm by Microsoft)

LX.TV (reported: developed network+domain sold for $10 mm by NBC)

TurnHere.TV (funding - $8.5 mm - Hearst)
Fora.TV (funding - $4 mm - Hearst)

Syndicaster.TV (funding - $6.2 mm)
Pandora.TV (funding - $6 mm)
Kyte.TV (funding - $5.6 mm)
Vpod.TV (funding - $5.1 mm)
BrightRoll.TV (funding - $5 mm)
Knocka.TV (funding - $5 mm)
TripR.TV (funding - $4.8 mm)
Overlay.TV (funding - $4.6 mm)
BlinkX.TV (funding - $2 mm)
VideoClix.TV (funding - $1 mm)
Mesmo.TV (funding - $1 mm)

I haven't done any research in several weeks, I'm sure I'm missing a few...




NY

With that kind of funding even the higher end premiums are not going to be a concern, although admittedly they still take a chunk of money that could be used elsewhere in the business.

It only stands to reason that higher end premium names with low renewal fees are going to be even more attractive. They will become a sought after commodity as more and more companies migrate to media/video on the internet as an integral part of their business model.

Six figure .tv sales are not far away, if not already taken place. Seven figures is not beyond the realm of the imagination within 5yrs.

 

[discovernow]

hello .TV veterans,

Regarding "the highest-end" .TV names:

Let us take for example these 20 names: newyork.TV, realestate.TV, golf.TV, london.TV, baby.tv, cartoons.TV, china.TV, religion.TV, comedy.TV, india.TV, technology.TV, soccer.TV, paris.TV, money.TV, cooking.TV, fashion.TV, games.TV, crafts.TV, jerusalem.TV, dubai.TV

Assuming a .TV name of this caliber is not burdened by an excessive yearly renewal fee, a valuation of 6-figures is a given in my opinion even in this near-depression economy.

Therefore, I need to lean on your experience and judgement...My question to you is very specific to these caliber type of names: Looking ahead to better economic times, say a 3 to 5 years outlook. Can you envision such top-echelon .TV names selling for 7-figures?

Many thanks ahead for all .TV visionaries for their opinion and outlook...

I believe in 3-5 years you will see 7 figures for domains in .tv as long as the renewal is reasonable, not like $50K a year.

I am glad you mentioned, Religion.tv which I own. It's funny because I have gotten 4 offers lower than $1,000 and 3 of them wanted "stats" "traffic", etc.
However, I got 1 offer for $20,000 and the person did not care about "stats",
"traffic" etc. I turned it down but the point I am trying to make is that some people just want the name and all it takes is 1 buyer across the world
who will be willing to pay for that name. There is always some end user whether a corporation, some rich person, who will pay 7 figures for a top notch domain name and .tv will be no different in 3-5 years. I believe right now, there is some buyer out there who may buy a Sex.tv for 7 figures as long as renewal can be locked it at a decent price.

I think that .tv may be the only extension outside of .com, expect for a few country code names like, (.de, co.uk,) or maybe a couple of others that will be hitting 7 figures with top-notch names.

Thanks, Jim

 

[jeffoverman]

I would love to think we could see a 7 figure amount within this time frame.

Not to sound like a downer but I would love to see some xxx, xxx sales first before we start chatting away on 7 figures.

Jimbo funny how you mention inflation rate and values follow that. I did an early post on this probably over a year ago and used to believe this however my tone had changed its course on this belief of mine. Maybe after the 5 year mark it could try to keep up. But at this time I don't see this happening. I am the whole picture of .tv could there be some names that could yes. A porn.tv or a sex.tv or news.tv can.

Now to change my tone a bit

We are headed in the right direction slowly but surly. By the research above, vc money is slowly beginning to role in .tv and corporations are realizing what .tv stands for.

Regards and in .tv for the long haul.

J

 

[gr8trfoo]

I would have to agree with Greg ... uncertainty in pricing = uncertainty in profits which reduces the prospects for .TV

There's a bit of uncertainty when transacting a name. How do you know its not a premium priced domain? Sure you can use Ahead and its pretty good but pretty good is not authoritative and maybe not something you want to base a million dollar decision on.

What about leakage to .com ? ... the more money
you put in to the .TV domain the happier the .com owner
will be ... ask Al Gore :cy:

My question to you Ray is how would you know? Do you have some .com's where a .tv has been developed? Or did Al sit you down and explain it to ya?

 

[RPK]

I will accept a 6 figure offer for crafts.tv if anyone wants to sell for 7 figures in a few years, pm me.