NP$ from members who are banned

[Alex]

Hello,

I recently saw some members banned like wow!, and I thought that maybe you can modify your terms in that way so that the NP$ are a property of Namepros. (Actually I do not know how it is now legally).

So that every time after a member is banned, let's say after a period of 15 days, during which he can make an appeal, you take those NP$'s away and donate them for charities in form of charity ribbons.

Members who are banned cannot use them either way, and this would be a nice gesture.

Is it possible? Ideas?

- Alex

 

[RegisterRants]

I think that banned members should be entitled to a PayPal/other refund of their NP$ since it is THEIR currency. When you deport someone from a country...do you take all of that country's currency from them?

Jason

 

[Alex]

Your argument is good. Anyway, something should be done.

Alex

 

[shockie]

i'm curious as to what happens right now. does the np$ just stay stagnant forever, or does it go back to namepros?

 

[Alex]

I saw users banned a while ago, and they still had NP$ in their accounts.

i'm curious as to what happens right now. does the np$ just stay stagnant forever, or does it go back to namepros?

 

[Jackie]

I was about to raise this in here (the NamePros Info & Suggestions forum). Why does it seem my ideas always get suggested by somebody else? :hehe:

Anyway, I had a talk with Mark about this. He says that this has been suggested a few times here already, but never has been implemented. It would be a lot of work the staff to manually retrieve the NP$ (which could be worth a matter of pennies) from banned accounts.

Would there be any way to create an automated script that mines the closed accounts, and sends any remaining NP$ to an account controlled by the staff.

Here's some more ideas if this is ever implemented,

Award the NP$ to the MOTM.
Start an official NP$ lottery (This has been done before, unofficially).
Convert these to USD and donate the proceeds to charity
Or a combination of these?

RegisterRants, you have a good point though. Offering them a refund would be a nice gesture for the integrity of the NP$ system.

 

[ApeXX]

I saw users banned a while ago, and they still had NP$ in their accounts.

I think you can also still use the NamePros.com Domain Service with a banned account.

 

[RegisterRants]

Random thought...

Much like the banned members can use the Domain Services, it is theoretically possible to modify the vbux/ucash system to be usable for banned members...

Jason

 

[Mr. Websites]

Here's some more ideas if this is ever implemented,

Award the NP$ to the MOTM.
Start an official NP$ lottery (This has been done before, unofficially).
Convert these to USD and donate the proceeds to charity
Or a combination of these?

Alternatively, donate them to me! :bingo: Seriously.

 

[Jeff]

I'm very fortunate ... 'cause right now they are all sent to the Emeritus™ :lala:

:kickass:






But seriously, NP$'s should go first to those who may have been affected by the banned member's actions / inactions, etc. and then, secondly, to Charity™ IMHO. It really depends on the nature, scope, and gravity of the offense / reason for banning!

 

[Peter]

Random thought...

Much like the banned members can use the Domain Services, it is theoretically possible to modify the vbux/ucash system to be usable for banned members...

Jason

As far as I can remember you cannot use the domain services if you are banned, a while back someone kept creating dupe accounts if I remember correctly because of that fact.

Also just a note you can get banned for opening threads in the wrong section constantly (although you would have to be somewhat stupid) so would that be a good enough reason for your namebucks to be confiscated? I think as RegisterRants that the users should have them returned as long as their is all of their affairs are worked out and there were no issues of scamming etc (and if there was the namebucks should be returned to their rightful owner).

i'm curious as to what happens right now. does the np$ just stay stagnant forever, or does it go back to namepros?

As far as I am aware they just stay stagnant forever.

 

[Michelle]

I need some new equipment in the cellar...

I dont know how they expect me to do a good job with some of the old stuff I have

 

[bluearrow]

I need some new equipment in the cellar...
I dont know how they expect me to do a good job with some of the old stuff I have

then all "baned" money should move to "cellar equipment fund".Also more workers [more monkeys] :hehe:

back to topic , I think it would be better to have system that baned members can access to their domains here or let them to move thier domains out. people get baned for doing silly things and fights too at least they should be given their money and domains back. As for scammers , their domains should be auctioned and donate money 4 charity.

.

 

[Peter]

As for scammers , their domains should be auctioned and donate money 4 charity.

.

That certainly should not happen, effectively that would be theft.

 

[Morph]

I would never support NP being given back to banned members.

 

[Morph]

Bill has hit the nail on the head :imho:

 

[dhscott]

Bill has hit the nail on the head :imho:

He has indeed.

However, I feel if a member has been banned for scamming or illegal activities, then the NP$ should be sent to those affected or to charity. But only after a period of a few months, just incase the "scammer" has been proven innocent.

As said, in most cases it is only a matter of pennies. It just depends into which pot it goes overall that matters.

 

[lazyleo]

Orrrr i can help by taking the np$ and investing them in err domains and testing new wines to share with fellow members? :p

 

[Damion]

:imho: Every case would be a case on it's own.

Someone that is banned for insulting the staff or other forum members or having an argument that goes beyond normal rational should not be withheld HIS money.
If i put in 8 hours of work on the job and i insulted my foreman for some sort of personal argument does not give the company in question for whom i worked for the right to withhold my money. And they won't! Happened to me and i did my job as it should have been done, i just wasn't wanted anymore.

But i did my job so i have the right to my money. I didn't have to make an issue out of it on top of the issue that was already going on.

The same should count for Namepros, if a member is being banned for disrupting the community because of an argument then a refund should be made in full.

No questions asked. No freezing of funds just a refund.
It's not ethical to withhold someones own money. NP$ is after all still to be exchanged in real currency, real money.

Someone who totally scammed someone should not be refunded to some extend, the NP$ should go to cover the losses of the individual(s) that have been the victim.
If total refunds would have been possible from the balance on the banned members account and there is still NP$ left this should returned with the going exchange rate in place.

The ethical thing to do would be to cover any potential losses and refund back the NP$ that remains to the individual.
Not returning the NP$ that is rightfully to someone either by Freezing or simply just confiscating is stealing just the same.


If some give steals $5.00 from someone that doesn't give the victim the right to steal $10.00 back since doing this would make the victim a thief as well.

Freezing the funds is not a solution either as it could mean it could be held indefinitely which is stealing as well.
It's like a thief saying the money he stole is a long term loan and he decides the length of the loan.

Do the right thing and reimburse someone his funds, if damages has been done these should be covered!
Other then that there is no ethical reason to keep this money frozen or purposely withheld from the original owner.

Denying someone the right to exchange their remaining funds is theft no matter how you look at it. Or keeping money at hostage which isn't a right you can give yourself either just because one can.

Being a member of the NP community I agree is a privilege and not a right.
However this does not mean that NP can enforce the right of ownership to someones currency.

My ownership of the NP$ currency is however my right as it is MY money and not from someone else.

2cents

 

[bluearrow]

Remember, being a member here at NamePros is a privilege, not a right. In a situation where an account is suspended or banned, the NP$ are frozen. If a user is approved to return, he/she has every right to their NP$.
-Bill

Bill , but what about Domain Names ? people who get baned should loose domain names they d bought too ?

Namepros is a enom reseller. Members don't buy domains just with what they earn from forum posting. Also it says in domain reg page that members can buy NP$ from NP bank. So those domains don't belongs to them ?

Being a member here at NamePros is a privilege, not a right. Thats right also strict rules should be applied to keep the place safe. No question about that too but again Namepros is not a honorary club its not just a forum a market place. not even just about domains but members sell , buy trade other things too.

members trust the place and trust the NP$ as a something more than just another forum currency. Thats why they buy NP$ from NP bank and keep in their accounts to use. So if someone gets into a fight or insult a mod and get baned , why the person shouldn't get him or her money refunded ?

One thing I admit it would be a pain in a** for MODs to do all that with their current workload, keeping the forum tidy. :hehe: