No AI/GPT section

[biggie]

Hi

a eye / gpt has invaded the forum

you got members creating threads in general discussion, to discuss what questions do you ask gpt about registrars

if that’s what it’s come down to, then the future of conversation looks bleak.

so we need to have an AI free zone,
that means no ai generated content or images, videos, etc.

Hi

can we have an “a eye” free zone?

where no a eye content, images, etc. can be posted.

imo…

post your thoughts

imo….

 

[alop]

they really was ahead of our time thanks @namethreads.com

I'm talking about that mad edit :15 :19

 

[CashproofAi]

If someone wants to have a conversation with AI, they can easily do that with the many options available today.

If they come here for the conversation, it means they want human interaction, for better or for worse.

Human interaction for better refinement not worse according to me. Even worse is better than worst.

 

[biggie]

The viewpoints some have expressed about AI’s use in the forum are valid. However, trying to regulate AI use would be a slippery slope. Users should have a right to communicate in whatever manner is feasible for them - assuming it doesn’t violate the platform’s guidelines.

Should NamePros want to avoid embracing covert censorship, it’s probably best to give folks friendly reminders that human content is preferred. The platform could even offer additional points and rewards for content that meets the NamePros ‘human content standards’.

AI is here. We don’t penalize folks for using a calculator or citing domain data from Google or other domain websites. There shouldn’t be a penalty for using AI to help gather, organize or convey your point. Sure, the ‘polish’ takes some getting use to - but won’t hinder resonance.

In closing, it’s worth pointing out the domain space has been slow to evolve - and AI provides an opportunity to change that. Let us not allow NamePros to fall behind in the grand scheme of how content is composed and shared around the internet. This should be avoided at all costs.

Hi

my post is a request for an ai free zone, not trying to regulate the platform.

many of us are happy with the pace of domaining and are not trying to evolve it faster than how it should advance, naturally

once you let a eye take over, then you are no longer in control.

NamePros has been going for two decades, and in this space there is nobody for them to fall behind of.

nobody is joining the forum to interact with ai


imo…..

 

[MAINNET]

Hi

my post is a request for an ai free zone, not trying to regulate the platform.

many of us are happy with the pace of domaining and are not trying to evolve it faster than how it should advance, naturally

once you let a eye take over, then you are no longer in control.

NamePros has been going for two decades, and in this space there is nobody for them to fall behind of.

nobody is joining the forum to interact with ai


imo…..

Understood. It has been concluded that mostly everyone who commented on your thread feels NamePros is perfect as is - and wouldn’t benefit from any upgrades or changes. They’ve also made it abundantly clear they have no interest in exploring how today’s AI technology could make the platform an enhanced resource. Can’t do anything but respect it. It’s clear what the platform has been up until now - and what it’ll be well into the foreseeable future - a chat forum for the guys. Not an advancement hub.

Judging from your seniority here on NamePros, your request for an AI-free zone will likely be granted. Congratulations to you. (No sarcasm) Wasn’t aware so many in the comments are LONG time users - so it makes complete sense why most oppose any changes. The platform is an embedded part of their domaining history. It’s basically the tavern of the domain space where the low-lighting, aged whiskey and jukebox stays put. Nothing wrong with that. Just put a sign on the door for the next generation so they’re aware.

 

[alop]

thanks for your continuous edits ..you came as annoyance #1 but after you got back from hiking with Brad you on another level

 

[MAINNET]

thanks for your continuous edits ..you came as annoyance #1 but after you got back from hiking with Brad you on another level

Just when you think #1 is the best, you realize there’s something higher. Thanks for keeping track of the stats.

 

[Altetra]

Many not realize but any form of AI was created as another artificial problem, it's purpose is to create more walls between human interaction, I agree that it is useful but I feel on my own it creates fairy tales when I interact with it, it tells me what I want to hear, for an introvert like me it is entertaining to chat with AI, but later reality kicks in and I realize I wasted my time, can say it works as a drug in some way, no worry I can control it.

If you heard about such "if an startup is not AI based you can't raise funds" those who fund AI startups are behind COVID and other artificial problems, which humankind have faced during hundred of years, from 1776 from when the current pyramid order was established, there is nothing new under the sky. I can see it all where it goes, replace everything known with AI, then if something goes wrong shut it down or make the shiple obey at your will, don't want to be part of this go to jungle they will say, but even there you may not be allowed to run and hide, heard of a law in UK can't go to woods 25K fine, OMG. Even no need to make wars, it's enough to implement AI in everything.

 

[teadom]

Just when you think #1 is the best, you realize there’s something higher. Thanks for keeping track of the stats.

Is #0?

 

[teadom]

Many not realize but any form of AI was created as another artificial problem, it's purpose is to create more walls between human interaction, I agree that it is useful but I feel on my own it creates fairy tales when I interact with it, it tells me what I want to hear, for an introvert like me it is entertaining to chat with AI, but later reality kicks in and I realize I wasted my time, can say it works as a drug in some way, no worry I can control it.

If you heard about such "if an startup is not AI based you can't raise funds" those who fund AI startups are behind COVID and other artificial problems, which humankind have faced during hundred of years, from 1776 from when the current pyramid order was established, there is nothing new under the sky. I can see it all where it goes, replace everything known with AI, then if something goes wrong shut it down or make the shiple obey at your will, don't want to be part of this go to jungle they will say, but even there you may not be allowed to run and hide, heard of a law in UK can't go to woods 25K fine, OMG. Even no need to make wars, it's enough to implement AI in everything.

True. Ai is fine as long as we don't treat it as a different animal. It's an evolution of computers, and we should apply to fix real world problems, not to use ai for the purpose of using ai.

 

[biggie]

Understood. It has been concluded that mostly everyone who commented on your thread feels NamePros is perfect as is - and wouldn’t benefit from any upgrades or changes. They’ve also made it abundantly clear they have no interest in exploring how today’s AI technology could make the platform an enhanced resource. Can’t do anything but respect it. It’s clear what the platform has been up until now - and what it’ll be well into the foreseeable future - a chat forum for the guys. Not an advancement hub.

Judging from your seniority here on NamePros, your request for an AI-free zone will likely be granted. Congratulations to you. (No sarcasm) Wasn’t aware so many in the comments are LONG time users - so it makes complete sense why most oppose any changes. The platform is an embedded part of their domaining history. It’s basically the tavern of the domain space where the low-lighting, aged whiskey and jukebox stays put. Nothing wrong with that. Just put a sign on the door for the next generation so they’re aware.

Hi

it’s not as extreme as you paint it

sure we have history, which validates our credibility
might not be a jukebox but there is music playing in the background in each post of the “what are you listening to” thread.
might be videos, might be DJ, could be vinyl or cd
nothing is perfect, not even a eye
everything has it’s place and we need an a eye free space.

imo…

 

[teadom]

Hi

my post is a request for an ai free zone, not trying to regulate the platform.

many of us are happy with the pace of domaining and are not trying to evolve it faster than how it should advance, naturally

once you let a eye take over, then you are no longer in control.

NamePros has been going for two decades, and in this space there is nobody for them to fall behind of.

nobody is joining the forum to interact with ai


imo…..

I think all or most of the forum should be without ai. But ai is also hard to spot. So maybe the struggle should be against noise, low quality ai generated text nobody read. We should penalize that, maybe an ai detector would be nice to mark posts as ai generated, so we don't open them anymore

 

[Eric Lyon]

We should penalize that, maybe an ai detector would be nice to mark posts as ai generated, so we don't open them anymore

You may have missed the following post, where it outlines how ai detectors are flawed and flagging content way before AI was introduced as a browser assistant as ai created.

Ok, for nostalgia, I went back in time to the year 2009, way before browser and chat based AI assistants were even available anywhere.

Imagine if you will, a time and place that existed without AI, just to find out that...

Next Stop.... The Twilight Zone!!!​

The following is a 2009 NamePros Blog article written by @Peter - https://www.namepros.com/blog/securing-your-domain-name-from-theft.584749/

Even though it was written almost 2 decades prior to the insertion of AI assistant technology, it was still pegged to be 57% AI generated with a 21% mix and only 23% Human written.

The above is just one of many different possible examples of how hard it may be to accurately detect AI content.

Unless of course, we really are entering the Twilight Zone! (That was one of my favorite TV shows as a kid, by the way) -- dedo dedo, dedo dedo, dedo dedo.....

I don't think flagging ai content is going to be an easy task and risks thrashing 100% human created content over the years with false positives. :/

 

[MAINNET]

Hi

it’s not as extreme as you paint it

sure we have history, which validates our credibility
might not be a jukebox but there is music playing in the background in each post of the “what are you listening to” thread.
might be videos, might be DJ, could be vinyl or cd
nothing is perfect, not even a eye
everything has it’s place and we need an a eye free space.

imo…

There wasn’t anything “extreme” stated. It was merely a casual assessment of what NamePros is and isn’t. Respectfully, it’s a place for the guys - not for the next generation of domainers IMO. There’s nothing wrong with this.

The initial point was meant to suggest NamePros could evolve into a better resource by factoring advancements in technology. After all, domains are an extension of technology, right? The history/credibility you referenced is very much relevant to how THIS platform operates - but not those outside of it.

Sure, NamePros is a tool for yesterday’s domainer - and maybe even those of today. However, the ability for AI tools to look up articles and posts on the platform without a person ever needing to visit might suggest an incoming dilution of the platform’s ‘resource-status’.

In closing, the responses provided to your post weren’t about arguing against your request. It was merely nodding to the possibilities and not just the nuisance of AI-use in the forum. It’s clear now: NamePros is for a particular group of folks.

 

[Leo2k]

Would restricting lengthier posts to those older than 5 years in NP help if the concern is about newbies using AI to create content on topics they have little or no knowledge about?

 

[MAINNET]

You may have missed the following post, where it outlines how ai detectors are flawed and flagging content way before AI was introduced as a browser assistant as ai created.

Ok, for nostalgia, I went back in time to the year 2009, way before browser and chat based AI assistants were even available anywhere.

Imagine if you will, a time and place that existed without AI, just to find out that...

Next Stop.... The Twilight Zone!!!​

The following is a 2009 NamePros Blog article written by @Peter - https://www.namepros.com/blog/securing-your-domain-name-from-theft.584749/

Even though it was written almost 2 decades prior to the insertion of AI assistant technology, it was still pegged to be 57% AI generated with a 21% mix and only 23% Human written.

The above is just one of many different possible examples of how hard it may be to accurately detect AI content.

Unless of course, we really are entering the Twilight Zone! (That was one of my favorite TV shows as a kid, by the way) -- dedo dedo, dedo dedo, dedo dedo.....

I don't think flagging ai content is going to be an easy task and risks thrashing 100% human created content over the years with false positives. :/

As the tech evolves, it’ll become a nearly impossible task. The same way there are AI detection tools, there are evasion tools as well. Trying to police AI-use would be a waste of resources IMO - especially for a platform that could become more by reasonably embracing it. However, it appears some folks who’ve kept NamePros going over the years are against its evolution where AI is concerned. Again, this is no slight or disrespect to those who prefer what they prefer. Your jukebox, your music.

Let’s be honest, NamePros has a demographic - and it’s not entirely comprised of folks who have a tolerance for anything “fresh”. Just look at how they respond to a new TLD. Seriously, we’re approaching an age where bots can register domains and guide search. This is what more and more domainers will rely on - and be up against. Once the current NamePros demographic ages out, will the platform phase out with it because of the current user disdain for AI technology?

The question isn’t as much about the “right” answer as it is planning for the future.

On this end, NamePros was viewed as a resource. As time has gone on, it has become increasingly clear it’s one of a few spots you can find certain info that may be helpful. It’s also a hub for scathing critiques of everything those with seniority and badges don’t like - including AI. Expecting this to keep the platform relevant is up to the founders and a few key users - not the next generation who can get their info and forward-thinking engagement elsewhere.

In closing, it doesn’t take much to recognize how frivolous the discussion around AI-use in a chat forum might seem - but it’s weird the pushback would be so shallow in a space where technology underpins the very “assets” many hope to sale. Just trying to add a reasonable counter-stance to why AI could be a plus and not just a minus as some have emphatically conveyed here.

 

[MAINNET]

Would restricting lengthier posts to those older than 5 years in NP help if the concern is about newbies using AI to create content on topics they have little or no knowledge about?

It would be easier just to purge the current user base of those with posts/views that don’t align with senior preferences. Boot them and refund anyone with a paid membership. From there, lock the gates and make NamePros invite-only. That my friend would maintain a preferred content feed, wipe out unwanted noise and ensure the crowd always nods and never counters the status-quo.

It’s not like NamePros is publicly traded or has any obligation to the broader domaining ecosystem. It’s not like the ousted can’t use the plethora of development tools to create their own platform with all the modern bells and whistle they’d like without stepping on toes. Everyone has rights and options here. No need to set an age/length limit on content. Just simply enact domain rule #1990: “Because we said so”. That ought to do the trick.

*This is a creative blend of sarcasm and advance notice. No AI was used in the making of this point.

 

[bmugford]

It’s clear now: NamePros is for a particular group of folks.

What, people who make an actual effort?

Copy and pasting what some AI bot says, often without even understanding the content, is not "innovative". It is just lazy.

Any noob can get AI to write something, and then pretend like they are some authority while having no real experience in a field.

Brad

 

[MAINNET]

What, people who make an actual effort?

Copy and pasting what some AI bot says, often without even understanding the content, is not "innovative". It is just lazy.

Any noob can get AI to write something, and then pretend like they are some authority while having no real experience in a field.

Brad

None of what you stated was implied. All that’s being said is you guys believe NamePros is operating at its highest potential. That’s fine. Like, seriously. No AI. AI is bad. Got it. Lock the doors and kick out those who say otherwise.

This is a forum for a particular group of people to have discussions their way. There’s nothing wrong with holding preferences, having bias and enforcing rules. NamePros is perfect as-is according to you and a host of others.

Anyone who doesn’t agree, including on this end, can go elsewhere or build their own platform if it’s that bad. Thank you for tolerating an opposing stance on this matter. You’re obviously a pillar of the NamePros forum - so your viewpoint holds a weight I have no intention of countering.

 

[bmugford]

None of what you stated was implied. All that’s being said is you guys believe NamePros is operating at its highest potential. That’s fine. Like, seriously. No AI. AI is bad. Got it. Lock the doors and kick out those who say otherwise.

This is a forum for a particular group of people to have discussions their way. There’s nothing wrong with holding preferences, having bias and enforcing rules. NamePros is perfect as-is according to you and a host of others.

Anyone who doesn’t agree, including on this end, can go elsewhere or build their own platform if it’s that bad. Thank you for tolerating an opposing stance on this matter. You’re obviously a pillar of the NamePros forum - so your viewpoint holds a weight I have no intention of countering.

Just read your last several posts. It's a bunch of jabs about NamePros and people not embracing innovation and stuff like that.

NamePros can do what they want. I personally have no interest in interacting with obvious bot generated content.

AI use within reason is possible.

There are other times it shows a lack of effort or knowledge, and it gets in the way of the actual discussion.

People who have no idea what they are talking about should focus on learning, not using AI bots to generate copy/paste responses.

Brad

 

[MAINNET]

Just read your last several posts. It's just a bunch of jabs about NamePros and people not embracing innovation and stuff like that.

If you want to go chat with AI bots, there are already plenty of options.

Brad

Sir, thank you for reading the last few of my posts - and conveniently misinterpreting everything.

Everyone knows who @bmugford is, your status here in the forum and where you stand on the matter of AI-use.

Let us wrap this up before there’s a need to objectively discuss what constitutes forum innovation. This isn’t the conversation anyone really wants to have HERE.

Back to regularly scheduled programming:

.com is king

All the good names are taken

Alternate TLDs are trash

Blockchain will never work

Noobs don’t stand a chance

I think this thread is back calibrated now.