New Whois tool by domaintools - Wow !

[gazzip]

I just noticed this on the domain tools blog

"Registrant Search allows anyone to search through this massive whois database using a registrant name, email address, physical address, or phone number to return a list of domains that have that search term in it."

It costs a fair bit but what a great tool if you can afford it :tu: Take a Peek !

http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/10/registrant-search/

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[Name Trader]

Impressive. But not for us more mortals. You can run but you can't hide.

 

[MadAboutDomains]

Hahahaha that's cool stuff! Although it will never be perfect because they cant cache every single whois record

 

[Spade]

Several times weve asked for something like this, but again - its pricey. I think eventually theyll be forced to come down, simply to make a reasonable profit. Adding it for an extra few dollars as a function to there standard membership would be the smart way to go.

Justin

 

[stscac]

Hahahaha that's cool stuff! Although it will never be perfect because they cant cache every single whois record

Oh but they can



-Steve

 

[Seabass]

This is really BIG, BIG news actually. Here comes a whole ARMY of lawyers to this space with this tool.

In general, for chronic trademark infringers , they will not be able to run. If a lawyer can order a list of domains one of these guys own and can show "intent to infringe", based on "other" trademark infringing domains, then the infringing domain in question which is at hand in court could be handed over much, much easier. And......... to boot they could take all the legit domains away from that person since they probably can't pay the trademark infrigement settlement that could top out at $100,000.

It's bad times ahead for black hat domainers.

 

[KingDon]

If you're going to loose one, you give it up, end of story. If you're saying that I could hire a lawyer and sue you over all your domains, well thanks for the tip; I have to call my lawyer now.

I will be getting back to you on this one, and ummmm, thanks for the tip. This good deed will not go unpunished.

 

[HcDomains]

That is a great !
Hope would launch soon and try it

 

[Seabass]

If you're going to loose one, you give it up, end of story. If you're saying that I could hire a lawyer and sue you over all your domains, well thanks for the tip; I have to call my lawyer now.

I will be getting back to you on this one, and ummmm, thanks for the tip. This good deed will not go unpunished.

I was not saying quite that - instead I was saying that the lawyer could use youre "other" domain purchases which infringe on "other" trademarks to show your "intent", meaning your are just a simple cybersquatter, but if he found only clean generics then that would play out in your favor. If intent can be proven in any regards by the lawyer he could use that to help him take the domain you are in court fighting over.

It's just like if you have assaulted folks in public a couple of times in the past and then you are in court again for assaulting someone, the judge, jury, and lawyers all take that into consideration. Same with domains. Past convictions on infringement or UDRP's = harder time defending yourself on current infringements.

I did not mean to imply that he would take all your names to just take them, but would if he got a $100,000 judgement and you could not pay the bill.

In any case....call a domain lawyer, don't listen to me, as I am not qualified counsel. This is just what I know from over the years.

Glad I only bought generics all these years!

 

[newsiness]

how nice if they release it free to everyone...

 

[BinderGang]

This is amazing.

I may throw down an order soon just to make sure I'm not missing a domain in some random registrar I registered with due to some promotion.

 

[DotWeekly]

how nice if they release it free to everyone...

With the server load this uses, there would be no way to do this for free. I've checked into it. Just be thankful this new tool is now available!

 

[gazzip]

I was not saying quite that - instead I was saying that the lawyer could use youre "other" domain purchases which infringe on "other" trademarks to show your "intent", meaning your are just a simple cybersquatter, but if he found only clean generics then that would play out in your favor. If intent can be proven in any regards by the lawyer he could use that to help him take the domain you are in court fighting over.

It's just like if you have assaulted folks in public a couple of times in the past and then you are in court again for assaulting someone, the judge, jury, and lawyers all take that into consideration. Same with domains. Past convictions on infringement or UDRP's = harder time defending yourself on current infringements.

I did not mean to imply that he would take all your names to just take them, but would if he got a $100,000 judgement and you could not pay the bill.

In any case....call a domain lawyer, don't listen to me, as I am not qualified counsel. This is just what I know from over the years.

Glad I only bought generics all these years!

Thats a very valid point seabass - If a lawyer has this tool in their arsenal (not literally) and they could proove the defendant owned many other TM related names that were also being used for profit then it would be far easier for them to proove "bad intent".

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[Lord]

very nice. but like many say, its a bit pricey :p

I've always used whois.sc (owned by domaintools)

 

[Pred]

surely most of the typosquatters etc. hide behing privacy or false details though?
cool tool though.
it will come down in price for sure too. :imho:

 

[Gene]

Hmm, it seems to have found only 80% of my domains. I didn't order the report ($317), but the number of domains it found was pretty far off...

 

[Seabass]

A couple of things I just noticed:

1. It only will give me a report on about 1/10 of my domains.

2. If you search for Frank Schilling's "Name Administration" it comes up with some 318,000 records and then says the Order Is Too Large: Narrow Your Search. So, apparently the more domains you have under one company the harder it is to get complete access, or a very large sample, of those records from this service. I have a large portfolio as well, but nothing like the monster Name Administration portfolio. I'm between 5,000 and 10,000 under one of my companies.

 

[RogueWriter]

There is other software out there that provides greater detail, and it has been around for several years, but, ummm, no way I am going to mention it's name here, heh!

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Big DomainTools is watching
-Allan84 :gl:

 

[AdoptableDomains]

The tools could be useful, but could also be used for not so good things. Would you want your employer, your spouse, or your kids to know every domain you owned or once owned due to cached records? Would you want a divorce lawyer finding all your domain assets? Would you want your adversary in a UDRP or TM dispute to know every domain you own? Would you want someone who was "out to get you", or a stalker to know all your domains? How about a news reporter if something happened to you or you were running for public office.

Since cached records are searched, even private registrations might show up if purchased after you registered the name instead of at the same time.

I see potential for good, but also potential misuse if in the wrong hands, regardless of cost. Hopefully the cost will be prohibitive for casual use at this point. It would be handy to search all my own domains, or maybe someone who registered one illegitimately in my name for virus or spam use. I think this is one of those things that should be monitored based on who has access though, to insure it's not abused.

I also wonder what TLD's they are searching other than the top 6 they specialize in (if any).

I presume you could thwart searches by using different versions your name such as Thos., T., Tom, Thomas for first name and different email addresses or street addresses. I can see this actually encouraging private/proxy registrations which I don't necessarily think is a good thing.

I really don't have anything to hide myself, since virtually all my "for sale" domains are listed on my site, afternic, sedo, etc.