video New Top Level Domains Are Fools Gold (Eli the Computer Guy)

[Addison]

Discussion on the ramifications of ICANN's new Top Level Domain Names and why it most likely doesn't really matter that they exist.

The new TLD topic in the video is 35 minutes (0:00:00 to 0:34:45).

 

[168]

of course they lie. most regs come from extensions like .top, .xyz, .win that give away domains below $1.

They are not registered by end-users. They will never get used and never sold. Sooner or later they won't renew either.

Check out Facebook.design,
Airbnb.design
telekom. design
WHD.Global - who owns NamesCon?

More examples on the way

 

[168]

That is indeed an ancient video, but in some way the headline it evokes is good for new extensions and assures their long-term success. I see new domainers "learning" (making the same mistakes older domainers like me did in the com era). They are passing over good unregistered names and creating lousy names. I'm not going to call out individual names and shame people, but if you look at the expiry stream of new Gtld's there is indeed a bunch of fools gold in there, just like there is in the expiry stream of .com. The difference however is that nearly everything good, short and generic is registered in .com and it isn't in new extensions. Think about all the 3 letters the 4 letters alone. So many good names sitting there at registration price (or moderate higher reg price and low price renewal) in new G's, which just isn't so in .com. A few of the "new domainer" class (new GTLD specialists) are bobbing and weaving between the raindrops mining for the good ones and selling them and making a living in the new G space, just like the older generation of domainers did in the pre-PPC era (pre 1999) - and those folks aren't shouting about their successes from the rooftops. It's interesting to watch. So the reason this video is good is because lots of weak hands will let go of good and bad names in new extensions, registries will lower prices on premium strings because they need to keep revenues up and then as new domainers get smarter and see they opportunities they will capitalize on inefficiencies as the market rises. Long term, many more names (good and bad) will become registered. Domainers today have the luxury of referring to the map established during the .com era. Copy those former successes, register the names which sold in the past; and don't make the same mistakes.

Good input!
I get more offers on the New "G's" than the .com's just turned down 1k on a .direct 1 word 6 character financial. Get hunting then hustle or wait As mentioned above, good ones will drop. There are lots of examples of 10k+ sales 98% of the up graders to N "G's" say they prefer the shorter more descriptive option. It's about what the end user wants right ?
My end user queries so far : .Global, .media, .digital, .direct, .tech,

 

[GoKaizen]

BSers and dreamers on here don't last.

 

[Jman92]

Yawn! we doing this every week? wow!

 

[dordomai]

Check out Facebook.design,
Airbnb.design
telekom. design
WHD.Global - who owns NamesCon?

More examples on the way

If you check, some companies register their mark in almost any extension because they don't want their TM to be weakened or abused. They are doing this because they need to not because they want to.

Amazon has registered their mark in hundreds of extensions, in many where it doesn't make any sense check amazon.desi or amazon.hiv

A large part of these so-called genuine registrations that are not owned by speculators are actually protective regs that will never be used for anything.

 

[Addison]

http://elithecomputerguy.com

If you read it quickly, it kind of looks like: Elite Computer Guy.

 

[dordomai]

http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/09/domain-name-news/getting-xxx-domain-names-0-sales-5-years/

5 years from now most extensions won't do much better than this one.

 

[baseballworld]

so hard to even comment on the stupidity these days. dot com is king

 

[Brands.International]

There are some strong new Gtld extensions. Internet business is growing and not everybody can find or effort a good .com that represents their business. You only have to take a look at how many "nosense.com"s are out there lately. 1,2,3,4 good .com keywords aren´t availible any more.
On the other hand, in my opinion, some new gTLDs look better and have more sense than the same name in .com. For example: Wakeboard.shop -- Wakeboardshop.com; Pharma.Group -- Pharmagroup.com
I think its a matter of time... ".com" will keep beeing the king but Google will end up giving some of the gTLD extensions similar privileges on SEO as the rest of TLDs.
I also own .com but i also invested in what in my opinion are strong gTLDs. And i must say i already got good profit out of .shop and .global.
Sorry for my English.
Kind regards

100% agree

 

[Brands.International]

Good input!
I get more offers on the New "G's" than the .com's just turned down 1k on a .direct 1 word 6 character financial. Get hunting then hustle or wait As mentioned above, good ones will drop. There are lots of examples of 10k+ sales 98% of the up graders to N "G's" say they prefer the shorter more descriptive option. It's about what the end user wants right ?
My end user queries so far : .Global, .media, .digital, .direct, .tech,

.global and .media are great ones when speaking about end user demand, I feel bad I missed then when they went to GA

 

[Addison]

New gTLDs are for end-users. They're not for domain investors yet. Patience!

 

[GoKaizen]

If you check, some companies register their mark in almost any extension because they don't want their TM to be weakened or abused. They are doing this because they need to not because they want to.

Yes, these companies don't wnt to buy garbage. It's extortion.

A large part of these so-called genuine registrations that are not owned by speculators are actually protective regs that will never be used for anything.

Yup, these domains will NEVER be used.

http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/09/domain-name-news/getting-xxx-domain-names-0-sales-5-years/

5 years from now most extensions won't do much better than this one.

Most Will go bankrupt and get deleted.

 

[UncleBrand]

Gentlemen: check new domain names registration volumes: they increase

keep checking, they usually start to tank at each anniversary
learn from the past history, of .tel .mobi .name

 

[Ategy]

... but domaining is not why new gTLDs were created. These new domains were not created for the after market but for real end-users.

New gTLDs are for end-users. They're not for domain investors yet. Patience!

I don't really agree with you guys on this .. most new gTLD's weren't really created for anybody specifically (some have end target niches .. but I'm talking end-user vs domainers) ... but many have been priced for end users. While others like .xyz with their deep promo discounts are pretty much made for domainers.

This video was made a couple of years ago by someone who focused a good part of his argument on trademark issues (something that good domainers avoid). Despite the fact he makes SOME good points on the negative side for nTLD's .. his argument really isn't relevant today (or even then one could say) as he completely ignores the positives for them ... namely availability and relative price to identical .com .. which are not only HUGE factors .. but pretty much the only reason gTLD's will/could ever be viable ...

I know most people like to jam all non earlier days TLD's into pretty much the same categories .. but Every TLD really should be looked at separately .. some will almost certainly survive to the key day where overall awareness hits critical mass and general use acceptance by the general masses .. some will die off before then (or most likely get sold).

One would be wise to analyse and separate the ones with more promise (.co .club .blog ...) from ones more likely to flop (.xyz .link .gdn ... ) .. and obviously make sure you get fantastic terms/words that are also in context with the TLD. I really surprises me how polarised black or white the gTLD debate is when they reality of it is some shade of grey ... lol

 

[Addison]

End-users must first adopt, want, and ultimately demand the new gTLDs before they become wise investments for domainers to supply them at premium prices.

It is too early to invest, IMO.

 

[Ategy]

It is too early to invest, IMO.

Your points are all valid .. but the huge counterpoints are quality of the domain and cost ... if you can get a fantastic domain at a cheap price .. then it could be worth investing your time and money. So while I'd agree that the expensive "premium" domains are mostly too overpriced to invest in .. there are some great ones floating around at great prices .. a combination that takes domain investing from not worthwhile .. to viable .. IMO!


PS ... I think this guy is the founder of the "Three Comma Club" .. lol .. their styles and character match too perfectly!

 

[GoKaizen]

There isn't development in new domains because registries are hogging all the good terms. Then ask for ridiculous premiums NOBODY will pay for.

 

[168]

If you check, some companies register their mark in almost any extension because they don't want their TM to be weakened or abused. They are doing this because they need to not because they want to.

Amazon has registered their mark in hundreds of extensions, in many where it doesn't make any sense check amazon.desi or amazon.hiv

A large part of these so-called genuine registrations that are not owned by speculators are actually protective regs that will never be used for anything.

these are not "defensive" regs.

I only post New "G"s that are ACTUALLY BEING USED by well known global companies.

The purpose is to report fact vs fiction in the minds of heavily invested .com'ies.

Nothing wrong with being in the .com business. Some prefer to be in the domain business.
Good luck selling .com's that have been on the shelf for 20+ years.
Happy Hunting !