New gTLD Domain Extensions!

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Hi Guys,

Can't really seem to find good analysis of how the new domain extensions (.guru, .photography, .clothing, etc.) are impacting domain sales, namely .COM?
I'm really interested in this, so any good opinions? :)
It seems as if .COM is actually getting MORE popular imho :tu:

Thanks!
 
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It would only end up getting cancelled as the audience disappeared. :)

Regards...jmcc

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First day 724 to go along with early regs = 964. If it was meant to be for travel, French aren't enthused.

tattoo with a full day 119 for a total of 794. That one is worse than I thought it would be.

sexy picked up 817 for a total of almost 2,800

tips is the winner of this week's bunch, over 8,000

This is really interesting JB Lions...do you have some stats for some others?
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BTW, I love that many former forum domainers are still in this game...it was supposed to be a flop, especially with all these new extensions, but it seems that its FINALLY getting MUCH better (in terms of sales) and most of all FUN again! :tu:
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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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A. Einstein never said that and it's a faulty and stupid "definition" of insanity that should probably be banned for all eternity.

Though it could be a good definition of stupidity and it likely applies to the majority of domainers and human beings for that matter.
 
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This is really interesting JB Lions...do you have some stats for some others?
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BTW, I love that many former forum domainers are still in this game...it was supposed to be a flop, especially with all these new extensions, but it seems that its FINALLY getting MUCH better (in terms of sales) and most of all FUN again! :tu:
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I get them all from here - http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

I know it's early but the volume regs usually happen in the beginning when more good keywords are available, so if it's already low, this doesn't bode well for the future.

For me it's interesting looking at other extensions that most people would say suck, like .name, .tel etc, and check out the numbers

.mobi - 1,054,470
.pw - 250,000 last time I saw somebody post about them
.name - 159,174
.tel - 147,194
.pro - 113,568

and compare them to the new ones

the highest so far is .guru with 40,066 and one day might get in .pro territory

The others maybe never even hit 1/3 of a .tel or .name. Some may not even hit 10,000 lifetime

I think the exception will be .web. Just because you can put anything with it, it's not limited in any way. I think it's the one that will be pushed hard by the registrars like GD, if they have a Super Bowl commercial like they did with .co, that kind of promotion. If .co can do 1.6 million or so, .web should be in the 2 - 5 million range in 2 years. And if it does those kind of numbers, I think that even hurts these other new ones as well.
 
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It's true that almost all extensions are growing, due to natural growth.
Nonetheless, .tel has lost a lot of regs recently, .name has shrunk a lot too (old trend), while .pro is stagnating, it's about where it was a year ago.
As for .pw I have never seen one developed .pw. Maybe 250K are registered but where are they ? Mistery.
.xxx domains: the vast majority are defensive/inactive. A true dead zone in cyberspace.
.jobs .coop .museum are not very much alive either 8-X

The figures may seem modestly encouraging, if you just look at the number of regs. But they don't tell the whole story. There is a huge lack of development in those TLDs, and they are outpaced by mainstream extensions because the residual growth is very limited. Whether you are an investor or an end user, they will bring nothing to your bottom line.
 
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.pw - 250,000 last time I saw somebody post about them
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the highest so far is .guru with 40,066 and one day might get in .pro territory

At $8 for PW ? That's what $2million in yearly revenue?

At $30 for .GURU ? That's what $1.2million?

Sounds like success to me :)
 
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At $8 for PW ? That's what $2million in yearly revenue?

At $30 for .GURU ? That's what $1.2million?

Sounds like success to me :)

Not for any domainers, unless you have some .pw sales you're holding back.
 
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Not for any domainers, unless you have some .pw sales you're holding back.

It's not always about domainers is it. I have one .pw and I'm not selling it. (Probably couldn't anyway, lol). I like it though and that's my prerogative :)
 
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It's not always about domainers is it. I have one .pw and I'm not selling it. (Probably couldn't anyway, lol). I like it though and that's my prerogative :)

Yes, if you're a domainer. That's their success, not yours.
 
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I heard a story about a guy who used to buy rear taillights for cars because people were always smashing them when reversing, he was planning to sell them later on when they were rarer and harder to find, then the aftermarket opened up and he got stuck with boxes of lights …. just sharing a story with you
 
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It's true that almost all extensions are growing, due to natural growth.
Nonetheless, .tel has lost a lot of regs recently, .name has shrunk a lot too (old trend), while .pro is stagnating, it's about where it was a year ago.
As for .pw I have never seen one developed .pw. Maybe 250K are registered but where are they ? Mistery.
.xxx domains: the vast majority are defensive/inactive. A true dead zone in cyberspace.
.jobs .coop .museum are not very much alive either 8-X

The figures may seem modestly encouraging, if you just look at the number of regs. But they don't tell the whole story. There is a huge lack of development in those TLDs, and they are outpaced by mainstream extensions because the residual growth is very limited. Whether you are an investor or an end user, they will bring nothing to your bottom line.

That's exactly it! :)
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And in order to actually invest into these these new "ccTLD's" and make them "mainstream" its almost IMPOSSIBLE! :)
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I just say don't start something new if the "old" (.com. .net. .org, etc) isn't even fully develeoped yet! :bah:
 
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And in order to actually invest into these these new "ccTLD's" and make them "mainstream" its almost IMPOSSIBLE! :)
The problem with repurposing ccTLDs is that unless the domain string/extension is something with a mass market appeal, it is going to be extremely difficult to monetise or develop. The registry is going to make money from all the true believers and fans but the second part is the most important. A lot of repurposed ccTLDs are not developed to the same extent as .COM or a local ccTLD.

There's going to be a lot of marketing rubbish about development levels in the new gTLDs (remember .CO ccTLD?) floating about and I would consider some of those trying to measure development levels to be complete spoofers. (One good indicator is when they say they are only sampling a limited number of domains rather than the whole TLD.) It is a very difficult thing to do properly and accurately and the registries often use consultancies who claim to measure usage but can't tell a simple redirect from a Godaddy PPC parking page for undeveloped domains. Generally you've got to check every domain/website in a TLD and properly analyse the HTML and the usage category and the context (is it really a website using that TLD or a website from another TLD where the owner just pointed it as the primary .com website without a proper 301/302 redirect etc). It also requires the holding page signatures/REGEXPs for thousands of different hosters. Then there are the clone websites which are the same website under many different domain names.

The usage patterns for new gTLDs, especially in the first year will be low because apart from cookiecutter template sites, it is expensive to develop websites and the mom and pop businesses (the real drivers of development in domains) will stick with the .COM and .ccTLD domains. What the professionals will be looking for is a trend best explained as the Abandonment Rate. This is where a website is set up (often using Wordpress or Joomla) and the registrant gets as far as the "hello world" post and then gives up (or if it happens later in the lifetime of the domain, the development stops with no further updates on the site). Normally you need a few years of survey data to do it but a lot of early market registrations do end up like this and do so in the first few months of operation.

There will be a few quick flips of keyword domains for seemingly high prices in new gTLDs. Some domainers may even get lucky but a lot of domainers are going to repeat the same mistakes of .EU, .MOBI, .ASIA, .TEL, and .CO. Apart from some carefully targeted ngTLDs, most of them are actually not really globally or regionally attractive TLDs.

Regards...jmcc
 
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The problem with repurposing ccTLDs is that unless the domain string/extension is something with a mass market appeal, it is going to be extremely difficult to monetise or develop. The registry is going to make money from all the true believers and fans but the second part is the most important. A lot of repurposed ccTLDs are not developed to the same extent as .COM or a local ccTLD.

There's going to be a lot of marketing rubbish about development levels in the new gTLDs (remember .CO ccTLD?) floating about and I would consider some of those trying to measure development levels to be complete spoofers. (One good indicator is when they say they are only sampling a limited number of domains rather than the whole TLD.) It is a very difficult thing to do properly and accurately and the registries often use consultancies who claim to measure usage but can't tell a simple redirect from a Godaddy PPC parking page for undeveloped domains. Generally you've got to check every domain/website in a TLD and properly analyse the HTML and the usage category and the context (is it really a website using that TLD or a website from another TLD where the owner just pointed it as the primary .com website without a proper 301/302 redirect etc). It also requires the holding page signatures/REGEXPs for thousands of different hosters. Then there are the clone websites which are the same website under many different domain names.

The usage patterns for new gTLDs, especially in the first year will be low because apart from cookiecutter template sites, it is expensive to develop websites and the mom and pop businesses (the real drivers of development in domains) will stick with the .COM and .ccTLD domains. What the professionals will be looking for is a trend best explained as the Abandonment Rate. This is where a website is set up (often using Wordpress or Joomla) and the registrant gets as far as the "hello world" post and then gives up (or if it happens later in the lifetime of the domain, the development stops with no further updates on the site). Normally you need a few years of survey data to do it but a lot of early market registrations do end up like this and do so in the first few months of operation.

There will be a few quick flips of keyword domains for seemingly high prices in new gTLDs. Some domainers may even get lucky but a lot of domainers are going to repeat the same mistakes of .EU, .MOBI, .ASIA, .TEL, and .CO. Apart from some carefully targeted ngTLDs, most of them are actually not really globally or regionally attractive TLDs.

Regards...jmcc

Great remark jmcc! :)
 
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i think development is the key, the more development the more recognition

some of the best .com's have yet to be developed, let alone some new gld
 
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some of the best .com's have yet to be developed, let alone some new gld

Yep and that's why the occurrence for a different take on the internet has appeared , many of the premium .coms will never be developed due to greed ……. step in new gtlds , here's your chance. We will not live long enough to see all .coms developed
 
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many of the premium .coms will never be developed due to greed …….

It's because most people don't understand how much it costs to develop, run, and maintain a real site. Easier to put parking on.

My favorite is the coming soon - though I'm guilty of this too.

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holding out to sell them for a fortune also contributes to the lack of development … imo
 
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It's because most people don't understand how much it costs to develop, run, and maintain a real site. Easier to put parking on.

My favorite is the coming soon - though I'm guilty of this too.

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A truly decent site costs $XX,XXX s to build and manage.

This is really true.
 
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