New gTLD Domain Extensions!

[TOXX]

Hi Guys,

Can't really seem to find good analysis of how the new domain extensions (.guru, .photography, .clothing, etc.) are impacting domain sales, namely .COM?
I'm really interested in this, so any good opinions?
It seems as if .COM is actually getting MORE popular imho :tu:

Thanks!

 

[hawkeye]

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So as a domainer, I don't want to invest in low demand extensions, just doesn't make sense to me. I already see people putting them up for a few hundred and we're just getting started.

As somebody who makes sites, I only do that in .com.

So basically your whole anti gTLD slant is about how 'you' see it/them fitting in 'your domaining scheme of things'. Which is fine. But that doesn't mean they don't/won't make sense to others now and/or in the future. And that's the thing, they're not about how 'domainers' see and use them. Big difference!

 

[JB Lions]

So basically your whole anti gTLD slant is about how 'you' see it/them fitting in 'your domaining scheme of things'. Which is fine. But that doesn't mean they don't/won't make sense to others now and/or in the future. And that's the thing, they're not about how 'domainers' see and use them. Big difference!

I'm not looking at them as just a domainer. My background is business/marketing first, domaining came later. Again, look at the numbers, you see demand in those low numbers? The future? It's pretty much over right after it begins. All the keywords that make sense are pretty much gone after the first day or so. That won't be anything good in the future. My anti-new gtld slant is very simple. From the beginning I said I didn't think there was a real market for these, the low regs bear that out.

There is no future where this makes sense:

"Please explain how A makes more sense. Knowing the public is already familiar with .com. Knowing there will be confusion, some traffic leakage, possible lost customers etc on a new extension. Are those problems worth the money you think a business will save trying to build on a new extension?"

Of course you're going to disagree, you have a new gtld link in your sig.

 

[Ms Domainer]

what registry are you using i wonder
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At enom you can reg fake.diamonds for only $370 ……crazy

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Dynadot.

It (.diamonds) was $150 EAP, $40 renewal (it's considered a premium). This is the only early one I have registered.

The one-letter ones are $240 (EAP) at Dynadot, $349 at Go Daddy. Not biting on those, though.

The one-letter ones seem to be more like vanity domains (I have two in .estate) and will not be all that rare, once the other gTLDs start rolling out.

IMHO, the best .diamonds keywords will be color descriptive of diamonds: yellow, blue, red, pink, colorless, etc. Most, if not all, of these are gone or reserved. White.diamonds is nice (and registry reserved), but there is a well-known TM on that term (perfume); besides, I think "colorless" is the standard term for a clear gem.

Champagne (brown) diamonds are heavily marketed to middle-class buyers -- at one time, they were considered "junk" or industrial diamonds, but a clever marketer found a way to make them desirable and appealing. The natural brown (a.k.a Champagne and Chocolate, depending on saturation of colors) diamonds are somewhat rare, so most of the ones sold are irradiated or heat treated, which is accepted in the industry.

From a business standpoint, I like Champagne better than the other colors simply because a yellow or blue diamond market is smaller (albeit richer) than the Champagne market -- I see Champagne diamonds advertised a lot, so much so that I originally thought it was TM'ed (it's not).

I can't think of any other .diamonds domains I would want, though. If end users adopt this gTLD, I can see jewelry stores specializing in diamonds registering their company names -- although .jewelry would be a better choice.

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[IncomeBooster]

Once all the new gtlds get released I wonder who will buy all these domains

 

[DnEbook]

Once all the new gtlds get released I wonder who will buy all these domains

businesses with the ability to see good marketing potential

 

[IncomeBooster]

Of course, but there aren't enough businesses to satisfy the supply. Number of great domains is increased by 5-10 times for every particular niche, and number of end buyers is almost the same or slightly increased. Now it is clear that only big players will stay and those who cant invest at least low x,xxx in new gtlds (like me) will be out of the game.
If anything, now is good time to get a great domain for business for little money.

 

[Kate]

Curious why domainers think there has to be mass regs for an extension to be successful? These new extensions are 'specific and 'niche' oriented, and don't need to be used be all, or by a majority of users.

That's an interesting thought. I have always thought there had to be critical mass for an extension to succeed (so as to gain enough exposure and mindshare).
Of course, not everybody has the same definition of 'success'.
In the case of niche/industry-specific TLDs the real embarrassment is when the intended end users and industry players shun the extension that supposedly was created just for them. Then we can say failure.
.aero, .coop, .museum or .travel are good examples.
In fact, they all fail by the same token and their relevance is nil.

 

[ajkula]

New gTLDs does not have any chance not because they sucks, yet because the public is not aware about them and because all domains that make sense have been taken or will be taken by domainers. That ruined .info, .name, .mobi, .pro etc. Most of domainers are not developers, so this domains will be useless parked pages.

IMHO, in regards of brandability and esthetic if .com and .web started at same time then .web would be winner. Now that will never ever happened.

 

[.NJ]

These are built for domainers to buy to make the registries/registrars money.

This is 100% correct.

These extensions were created in the hopes of maxed max out credit cards and broken bank accounts of the domain addiction.

99% of these new registrations were from the same people reading these threads.

The delusional "hype" of these new extensions stemmed from the same feeds that are part of the "inside" action.

These extensions were never meant to become mainstream or in the hands of where they belong (end-users).

It's just a game of the "hunter" and "prey".

And sorry.........but the prey is not the end-users.

 

[JB Lions]

Remember for those looking for a .sexy .tattoo tomorrow, they won't be at GoDaddy. I read they get like half of the new gtld regs. I was wondering before all of this if they were going to carry all of them. Will be interesting to see the numbers.

Another slow day, 10 of the first 21 didn't break 50 new regs.

People wondering the affect of these new ones on .com (none really) when I'm thinking the affect of .web on these new ones. I figure in 2 years should be at 2 - 5 million regs, minimum. Don't think I'm going out on a limb thinking they'll beat .co numbers. If GoDaddy had .co commercials, I can see some .web ones. No point in pushing a limited .kitchen when you can advertise something that goes with everything. We'll see.

 

[hawkeye]

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These extensions were created in the hopes of maxed max out credit cards and broken bank accounts of the domain addiction.

99% of these new registrations were from the same people reading these threads.

The delusional "hype" of these new extensions stemmed from the same feeds that are part of the "inside" action.

These extensions were never meant to become mainstream or in the hands of where they belong (end-users).

Yup, this is why over 600 corporations/companies went out spending hundreds of millions of dollars (collectively) and years of planning, to fleece a bunch of domainers and the world I guess, out of their money.

We all see the reality we want to believe we see. scary.

 

[.NJ]

Yup, this is why over 600 corporations/companies went out spending hundreds of millions of dollars (collectively) and years of planning, to fleece a bunch of domainers and the world I guess, out of their money.

We all see the reality we want to believe we see. scary.

Do you really think .donuts or whatever they are actual used there own money to front these extensions????

No, they used other "investors" (corps, companies) to hold the leaking bag of $hit.

There are good and bad investments made everyday.

So, just out of curiosity....you dont think these registries banked on domainer profits from the beginning?

 

[hawkeye]

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So, just out of curiosity....you dont think these registries banked on domainer profits from the beginning?

Doesn't matter what I think, bottom line is no one is forcing any domainer to buy them. They aren't offering them out at $8 a pop! So if domainers go out and buy (lots of) them, and they don't work out, can't blame the registries.

 

[JB Lions]

We all see the reality we want to believe we see. scary.

There are numbers you can look at. It's not some imaginary thing. They look good to you?

Yup, this is why over 600 corporations/companies went out spending hundreds of millions of dollars (collectively) and years of planning, to fleece a bunch of domainers and the world I guess, out of their money. .

Businesses are like every other business. If they see there is some money to be made, they go for it. Of course they know it would be mostly domainers buying them up, who doesn't know that.

 

[hawkeye]

There are numbers you can look at. It's not some imaginary thing. They look good to you?

What 'numbers'?

 

[Kate]

The registries are like drug peddlers and don't care about the benefits their merchandise will bring to you.
As long as they sell you a domain, they win, like the casino... Issuing domain names is like a license to print money.

Ka-ching

Of course, they need a minimum of volume to stay profitable, there is a real risk that some registries will go bankrupt. Some extensions are dead zones already but they still exist.

Again, it doesn't matter if the product is good or not. Have you seen the nonsense strings being released ? What are they thinking ?

All unrestricted TLDs heavily rely on two keep groups to keep them afloat, or at least get them started:

• TM holders
• speculators

Nothing new under the sun.

Oh yes, the numbers. Look at the figures, they don't lie.

:lala:

 

[DnEbook]

Interesting to note that .Nyc plans to stay 'inhouse' but it seems an 'agent' has been able to act on your behalf in these situations in the past

 

[scandiman]

The future? It's pretty much over right after it begins. All the keywords that make sense are pretty much gone after the first day or so. That won't be anything good in the future. My anti-new gtld slant is very simple. From the beginning I said I didn't think there was a real market for these, the low regs bear that out.

Similar thoughts led me to ask this question... https://www.namepros.com/gtld-discussion/816683-what-if-gtld-goes-bankrupt-shuts.html

 

[garptrader]

Take a few of your best domains and type into Google, Yahoo, Bing the domain's keywords to see what TLDs companies / end users are using. Overwhelmingly they are using .COM or their CCTLD with some .Net usage as well. Perhaps 2-3% of the time I might see another extension but often those sites aren't real companies - just bloggers trying to monetize their blog with AdSense & affiliate ads. I continue to see .COM registrations increase and for many of these new TLDs there are a limited number of keyword combinations which even make sense. So for those extensions, they will never become mainstream because they will rarely be seen by consumers.

 

[JB Lions]

Saw a tweet on some early numbers, the ones released today, only about half a day and not at GoDaddy which hurt some, should get better numbers next few days but right now, pretty horrible:

. sexy - 1,985
. tattoo - 676

One of my favorite ones, .voyage opens up for widespread, general availability tomorrow, looks like 220 early regs, amazing. Only found 2 phrases that get over 1000 exact match a month, maiden and fantastic. Space only gets 70

voyage - "a long journey involving travel by sea or in space."

I guess it would be good like back in the viking days or sometime in the future for space travel. An extension that's too late and too early.