discuss New .crypto gTLD vs crypto.com

[MapleDots]

I have been reading story's all over the internet about the owner of crypto.com saying the domain is not for sale at any price. There is speculation the domain could have a value as high as 25 million dollars.

There is even one person (Francois):
https://domaininvesting.com/daily-poll-crypto-com-worth/

He says....

I received a $400K offer on crypto.info in January that I declined.
I think the confirmation that the .com is not for sale seriously raised the value of my .info overnight.

Looking at all of this I am starting to think the $185,000 to start a new gTLD might be a bargain for someone.

Spend the 185k and now sell...

bitcoin.crypto
anything.crypto

You would create a flurry of new registrations and the registrar who owned this could probably write their own paycheck by charging 25k per registration.

Interesting..... don't you think?

 

[lambo.com]

Hmmm, so because you don't like them they all suck?

So everyone selling them and making money on them are depositing imaginary paychecks?

You know you are on a domaining forum right?

Marketing 101

There's lots of evidence to support my opinion (that they suck)

Who are these all people crushing it with them, the registries?

Some sell on aftermarket but not because of any inherent value. It's more about salesmanship/ hard selling/ greater fool theory/ beauty in the eye of the beholder.

 

[alcy]

Hmmm, so because you don't like them they all suck?

So everyone selling them and making money on them are depositing imaginary paychecks?

You know you are on a domaining forum right?

Marketing 101

ngtlds don't sell well at all

they just make bigger deals out of each sale.. precisely because they are so relatively rare.

marketing 101

cheers

 

[MapleDots]

Here are the top 30 New gTLD domain name sales from 2016:


Domain Name Price Currency Date Venue
1.xyz 182971 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
Sex.LIVE 160000 USD 13/7/2016 Rightside
Porn.LIVE 120000 USD 14/7/2016 Rightside
co.ltd 115000 USD 15/8/2016 Donuts
i.vip 100667 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
99.vip 77622 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
Web.hosting 75000 USD 8/5/2016 DomainPros
88.xyz 70000 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016/RightOfTheDot
pay.vip 67552 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
66.xyz 65901 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
d.vip 63152 USD 31/5/2016 west.cn
stock.photo / stock.photos 60000 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016
66.vip 59348 USD 31/5/2016 west.cn
web.hosting 52500 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016/RightOfTheDot
work.place* 50001+ USD 8/10/2016 Private
i.vip 48836 USD 20/5/2016 Ali Auction
51.xyz 46518 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
58.vip 45660 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
e.vip 45660 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
Auto.loan 45000 USD 27/11/2016 Undeveloped
11.xyz 43107 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
ym.xyz 39695 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
78.vip 39572 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
S.CLUB 37984 USD 30/4/2016 Ali Auction
YY.xyz 37500 USD 24/2/2016 West.cn
98.xyz 35974 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
car.vip 35664 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
hk.xyz 34733 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
91.top 33846 USD 26/3/2016 .TOP Domainer Forum
vip.xyz 33183 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn

And this list was from 2016

2017 was just as impressive

Personally I don't deal in the new gTLD's but it is undeniable that there is money to be made on them.

 

[lambo.com]

Here are the top 30 New gTLD domain name sales from 2016:


Domain Name Price Currency Date Venue
1.xyz 182971 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
Sex.LIVE 160000 USD 13/7/2016 Rightside
Porn.LIVE 120000 USD 14/7/2016 Rightside
co.ltd 115000 USD 15/8/2016 Donuts
i.vip 100667 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
99.vip 77622 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
Web.hosting 75000 USD 8/5/2016 DomainPros
88.xyz 70000 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016/RightOfTheDot
pay.vip 67552 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
66.xyz 65901 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
d.vip 63152 USD 31/5/2016 west.cn
stock.photo / stock.photos 60000 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016
66.vip 59348 USD 31/5/2016 west.cn
web.hosting 52500 USD 11/1/2016 NamesCon 2016/RightOfTheDot
work.place* 50001+ USD 8/10/2016 Private
i.vip 48836 USD 20/5/2016 Ali Auction
51.xyz 46518 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
58.vip 45660 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
e.vip 45660 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
Auto.loan 45000 USD 27/11/2016 Undeveloped
11.xyz 43107 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
ym.xyz 39695 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
78.vip 39572 USD 6/6/2016 2016 Global Domains Industry Summit
S.CLUB 37984 USD 30/4/2016 Ali Auction
YY.xyz 37500 USD 24/2/2016 West.cn
98.xyz 35974 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
car.vip 35664 USD 15/12/2016 190.com
hk.xyz 34733 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn
91.top 33846 USD 26/3/2016 .TOP Domainer Forum
vip.xyz 33183 USD 31/3/2016 West.cn

And this list was from 2016

2017 was just as impressive

Personally I don't deal in the new gTLD's but it is undeniable that there is money to be made on them.

Marketing 101

let's see the 'impressive' 2017 list as well. Thanks in advance

 

[lambo.com]

are you also impressed with the 54 xyz sales (on namebio) from the last year?
https://namebio.com/?s==gjNwkzN1YTM

 

[MapleDots]

are you also impressed with the 54 xyz sales (on namebio) from the last year?
https://namebio.com/?s==gjNwkzN1YTM

Yup and also with a 500k sale of home.loans

How can you argue with sales, I'm a bit puzzled.

Yes .com is king but I'm not too proud to take money from other places if I can get it

 

[lambo.com]

Yup and also with a 500k sale of home.loans

How can you argue with sales, I'm a bit puzzled.

Yes .com is king but I'm not too proud to take money from other places if I can get it

You don't just 'take money' with domains unless you managed to buy a legit liquid asset for under wholesale.

if you can't be bothered to consider the mathematical probability of something like this happening to you with a good looking ngtld that you might own, even if you sell for $10k, then I can't help you.

Data anomalies are all well and good, and not to be ignored. They should not be relied on to effect or justify poor decision making.

So what do you fail consider? Maybe it's the luck involved as there is with any domain sale to an end user. Being in the right place at the right time. Maybe it's the salesmanship of the person who managed to coax the purchaser to pay such a huge amount for a domain name like this. Perhaps it's the manipulation tactics to make out ngtlds are doing better than they really are. There are many variables.

 

[MapleDots]

if you can't be bothered to consider the mathematical probability of something like this happening to you with a good looking ngtld that you might own, even if you sell for $10k, then I can't help you.

I don't defend gTLD, like I said I do not deal in them.

However, there is very little luck involved, it is a skill to register the correct ones that can have a potential end value. There are some members on the board here that have made really good money on them. The skill is in the selecting of the proper one.

The mathematical probability goes up exponentially in the hands of an experienced domainer. If I was in any way asking for help I would approach them because instead of arguing they are busy selling. I can assure you there is little to no help you can offer anyone until you open yourself up to the fact that gTLD's are here to stay and you need to adapt or be left behind. Sure some (or even a lot) will fail but key ones will survive and prosper.

 

[lambo.com]

left behind lol!

nah brother, I crush it. Anyway, enough about me.

I couldn't care less whether .loans is here next year or in 10 years. The tiny number of names that might look nice I wouldn't touch for the same reason I don't sell candy or go to the candy store alot or eat candy for any of my meals.

If I did go to the candy store, load up one of those see-through bags, I could walk around offering people on the street to buy some of me.

I'd get responses like:
"why would I want to eat that?"
"it's not proper food you know?"
"don't eat that stuff"

And you know what? Once in a while, I'll stumble across someone willing to give me a few cents for some cola bottles or a few dollars for a handful of strawberry shoelaces.

If I'm REALLY lucky, I'll bump into that one person who looks me in the eye and says they have always wanted to be in the candy business and wants to buy my candy store off me. Strange world, strange things happen.

Math and probability are your friends, don't forget it!

 

[MapleDots]

I did well in math and the only mathematical probability I can give you for sure is that I cannot win by continuing this conversation with you.

I will leave you to your opinion and wish you the best, good luck domaining

 

[lambo.com]

I did well in math and the only mathematical probability I can give you for sure is that I cannot win by continuing this conversation with you.

I will leave you to your opinion and wish you the best, good luck domaining

it's not about winning. Best to you too.