NameJet and commonsense?

[Debt.tv]

:yell: Ok, I'm pretty knew to the 'backorder' scene but I think Namejet, Snapnames and so and so forth are used by domainers and brokers, at least, for the most part. If you're a domainer or broker you goal is to get domains as cheap as you can and sell it for as much as you can.

This is a commonsense thread.

I have been watching a particular domain name for about a 10 days now...0 bids, Namejet is not advertising it on the frontpage...nothing. I was thinking that if I wanted this name, I was not going to bid on it until the last 5 minutes of the last day, which was yesterday, in order to ensure people who sort by date and by bidders don't find this name. It may be a pipe dream, but that's smart business, weather it works or not.

This is a case of a person whom bid on this name yesterday morning. WHY~! Just wait until the end of the day! Impatience may have just cost this guy a good name or at least a good name at a low price. By 11pm EST it had a large number of bidders.

How many people think the same way I do when it comes to bidding on a domain.

I would make a poll, but I'm frustrated with this idiot and I'm in no mood to figure it out.

I'm so P.O'ed right now. I mean maybe if this person had waited it would have been 2 to 5 bidders but not the huge number that it ended up with. NO WAY! :yell:

 

[Kate]

Sometimes, people have a good reason to place an early bid, in particular if they won't be able to attend, or are in an unfavorable time zone

 

[Debt.tv]

Sometimes, people have a good reason to place an early bid, in particular if they won't be able to attend, or are in an unfavorable time zone

It was like 18 hours before. It's still money? Save as much as you can, wait as long as you can.

 

[Erdy]

People live in different time zone. Also Namejet is totally rubbish because they don't show how many hours and minutes are left.

On the domain details page it simply days:

Oct. 30, 2010 8:00 PM

What does this mean? It means those namejet people are stupid. I send them at least 3 emails telling they should show time left as hours and minutes or at least show the time zone next to the hour.

It just says 8:00pm. Do you expect every namejet user to be bothered to search around help pages to try to figure out what 8:00pm means? Even if you know the time zone, which is by the way Pacific Time, do you expect people to be bothered to calculate the time left each time they check a domain?

I live in the UK and I'm 8 hours ahead of Pacific Time. I have bookmarked this page because I forget the pacific time. I used to open this page continuously and calculate the time because I kept forgetting how many hours the difference was or even what time zone namejet uses.
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/

Their time zone is written somewhere inside the FAQ pages. You have to fish around to find that information. Then luckily I changed the times on my own site to time left which includes namejet pre-release. Now I can easily see how many hours and minutes are left without getting crazy by that stupid namejet site.

I keep sending emails to snapnames to make them show the time left on their domain detail pages (along with number of bids). They finally added this but they added it the wrong way. They only show the time left on domain detail pages for active auctions. I'm tired of sending them emails. I don't blame the domainers. I blame those two sites for making things complicated.

Look at Godaddy for instance. They show time left in days, hours and minutes. They understand that people visit their site from all over the world and writing there something like 8 pm is the most stupid thing to do.

Besides Godaddy, Dynadot also shows time left in days, hours, minutes for their pre-release auctions. I like them too. Godaddy adds a few minutes after the last bid if it comes near the end but Dynadot doesn't. When it ends it ends. This makes their auctions more exciting but you have to be present at the exact time.

 

[hawkeye]

It was like 18 hours before. It's still money? Save as much as you can, wait as long as you can.

Maybe he should have contacted you first, so he'd know what 'you'd' recommend him to do.

 

[Debt.tv]

Maybe he should have contacted you first, so he'd know what 'you'd' recommend him to do.

All I'm saying is why spend more money then you have to?

 

[URLtrader]

I was very interested in a domain with zero bids. I put note and alarm in my Blackberry. Put my bid 2 minutes before 9 AM Pacific Time. I was the only bidder . My creditcard was charged in few hours and I got control of domain in 24 hours. What I did NOT like was that it was registered on that day and thus lost its 10 years history.

 

[siga]

I understand what you are saying but like sdsinc says sometimes time is unfavourable. Sometimes they wont be there to bid in the next 18 hours... Also I've certainly forgotten about bidding on a domain untill the next day or been away from the desk or phone signal.

In short its the way the cookie crumbles: just be happy when you get the cracking domain everyone else has overlooked or you are in the right place at the right time I know I certainly am.

 

[hawkeye]

All I'm saying is why spend more money then you have to?

Again, same answer - "Maybe he should have contacted you first, so he'd know what 'you'd' recommend him to do."

Everyone has their 'own' way/reasons of doing what 'they' do.

 

[Erdy]

... Put my bid 2 minutes before 9 AM Pacific Time. ... What I did NOT like was that it was registered on that day and thus lost its 10 years history.

This was a pending delete domain. There is nothing namejet or anybody else can do about it. You could have catched the same domain about 40 days ago during its first auction. Then it would keep it's original creation date.

By the way, if you ever miss the last backorder hour for pending deletes, you can always go to snapnames which closes their pending delete backorder time one hour after namejet. It is also $10 cheaper. You pay $69 at namejet for pending deletes and $59 at snapnames. Snapnames would beat namejet any time. If anybody had backordered the same domain at snapnames, you wouldn't get that domain.

 

[Debt.tv]

Pre-Release

This was a pending delete domain. There is nothing namejet or anybody else can do about it. You could have catched the same domain about 40 days ago during its first auction. Then it would keep it's original creation date.

By the way, if you ever miss the last backorder hour for pending deletes, you can always go to snapnames which closes their pending delete backorder time one hour after namejet. It is also $10 cheaper. You pay $69 at namejet for pending deletes and $59 at snapnames. Snapnames would beat namejet any time. If anybody had backordered the same domain at snapnames, you wouldn't get that domain.

 

[iAdam]

It happen all the time unless you get lucky and you the only bidder.

 

[Debt.tv]

It happen all the time unless you get lucky and you the only bidder.

Oh, I realize that...it is what it is.

 

[Name Trader]

Reasons for bidding early. 1) You'll be asleep when the auction ends (different time zone), 2) The first bidder captures the domain if all the others don't up their bid.

 

[URLtrader]

Thanks for the info.

This was a pending delete domain. There is nothing namejet or anybody else can do about it. You could have catched the same domain about 40 days ago during its first auction. Then it would keep it's original creation date.

By the way, if you ever miss the last backorder hour for pending deletes, you can always go to snapnames which closes their pending delete backorder time one hour after namejet. It is also $10 cheaper. You pay $69 at namejet for pending deletes and $59 at snapnames. Snapnames would beat namejet any time. If anybody had backordered the same domain at snapnames, you wouldn't get that domain.