.tv Name.com: further discount on former Premium.tv

[cambkey]

It appears that a bit of a price war is emerging between the registrars battling to get the rest of our .tv cash before it goes to Sedo:

Name.com (previously already lower than EnomCentral and Dynadot) have further discounted the price of all the available former premium.tv that have not yet been grabbed in the landrush by approx 6%

However eNomCentral now undercuts even them

e.g. Selling.tv was $580 at Name and now is $545 but is available at enom for $500 down from the original $630 there (at Dynadot it remains $600)

Will there be further discounts or might it even get like Afternic Bazaar and reduce over time to reg fee?! Will this make you buy any on your maybe list now?

 

[equity78]

Interesting Name.com just blogged about how they will match any price on a .tv premium domain.

 

[MrRhee]

Here's what happened starting Friday Morning:
(disclaimer: it all happened so fast, I can not give specific timestamps or exact pricing)

Pre-PriceWar
Sample Domain: Fat.TV
1) name.com = $3800+/-
2) dynadot = $3960
3) enom = $4000+/-


then...

PriceWar begins


Around 6AM, Enom sends out email stating they will now be cheaper than everyone. Offers massive price reduction.
"eNom refuses to allow other registrars to beat our prices!"
Sample Domain: Fat.TV
1) enom = $3700+/-
2) name.com = $3800+/-
3) dynadot = $3960


then midday... a flurry of activity, I'm receiving phone calls from colleagues and I receive nearly 500+ text message alerts from my price tracker.

Name.com has countered Enom's action by lowering their prices about 10% below Enom's price drop. By the time Enom's email reaches many customers, Enom's original price drop is still more expensive than Name.com
Sample Domain: Fat.TV
1) name.com = $3597
2) enom = $3700+/-
3) dynadot = $3960



Enom retaliates by undercutting Name.com one more time... almost instantly.... and offers an even further price reduction. My associates and I are smiling from ear to ear enjoying the war taking place because, We, the consumer, are the true winners.
Sample Domain: Fat.TV
1) enom = $3300+/-
2) name.com = $3597
3) dynadot = $3960


Will someone please wakeup Dynadot? They are clearly asleep at the wheel. LOL.

Here's the interesting part, right before ENOM's latest & final price drop: Name.com moves forward with their original plan for Friday, to offer a new program: Premium Price Match Guarantee. Posts blog entry:
The Official Name.com Blog » .TV Premium Price Match Guarantee
"Some registrars say they’re the lowest priced on premium .TV domains – we’re actually backing it up with a Price Match Guarantee. If you happen to find a premium .TV domain priced lower than our listed price at another registrar, just contact us, and if that price is above our cost we’ll MATCH it!"

I call Name.com about Enom's latest price drop and ask if they are going to counter and keep slashing prices and they respond very tactfully:" Price Match".

I am advised that if I wish to get a price guarantee, simply email them first, they'll verify and then match prices of competitors. Even though I find it more complicated at first glance, I realize this is the smartest play for a company to make and ultimately consumers still win and can now shop based on which registrar gives us the best customer service. If I truly wish to buy Fat.TV for $3300 - I can decide to give the money to ENOM or Name.com. I suggest that Name.com register PriceMatch.TV They do. I can't wait to see if they do something with it.

IMO, though it's now easier to buy from ENOM due to lowest listed price, unless it is urgent, I'll buy through Name.com (after a price match) because I'm growing less fond of ENOM due to the unresolved Legacy Premium conflict. (MUCH more on this later, that's a whole other story)

So, in the end, a domain I wanted Thursday night: best-priced at $400 - on Friday, ended up being $325. Needless to say, I bought it at Name.com and that $75 savings went into buying a few more $20 .TV regs.


What most domainers may not realize is that many Premiums are being picked off the list EVERYDAY by end-users. On my own, I'm tracking all the premiums that sell and watching who the buyers are and I see plenty of end-users in the mix, ranging from Brick&Mortar retail; to Travel companies; to Eye Doctors.

Good luck to all.


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[cambkey]

thanks for the additional insight, MrRhee.... and happy Easter.tv to you :gn:

 

[MrRhee]

thanks for the additional insight, MrRhee.... and happy Easter.tv to you :gn:

I figure I can't go wrong at that price. Looking at Easter.com gives me hope that it is worth developing a full-blown site. I believe the sponsors are out there.

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[Jeff]

What most domainers may not realize is that many Premiums are being picked off the list EVERYDAY by end-users. On my own, I'm tracking all the premiums that sell and watching who the buyers are and I see plenty of end-users in the mix, ranging from Brick&Mortar retail; to Travel companies; to Eye Doctors.

Which Premiums are being picked up every day, and developed by End users? :blink:
IYHO.

Thanks,
Jeff

 

[Debt.tv]

thanks for the additional insight, MrRhee.... and happy Easter.tv to you :gn:

have a happy Easter.cc from me......that is the best I can do.

 

[ThreeD]

What most domainers may not realize is that many Premiums are being picked off the list EVERYDAY by end-users.

I've noticed the same thing :wave:

 

[MrRhee]

Which Premiums are being picked up every day, and developed by End users? :blink:
IYHO.

Thanks,
Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Welcome to the Internet and to the Domain Industry. There are several tools at your disposal that will help you find the answers you are looking for. First, there are domain registration sites where you can check the availability of a domain name. If a domain is gone, you can use a tool called "Who Has Ownership In Something" or "WHOIS" for short (domainer lingo). In the Whois results, you will see who now owns the domain name, unless of course the name is in "privacy protected" mode. Don't worry about that... that's another lesson for later (Advanced Domaining Lesson 1). If the name is not "privacy protected" you will see the information of the current owner. Now you can use a tool called a "search engine", I highly recommend AltaVista, HotBot, DogPile or a new one that looks promising: Google. Don't forget to add the ".com" (that's called a TLD : Advanced Domaining Lesson 2). Using this tool called Google, you'll be able to do research and find out more about the domain's owner.

Hopefully that helps. If you need more assistance, here is a step by step guide:

Simply go download the list of premium .tvs - available here:
eNomCentral - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration

then as you go through the list, check to see if a name is available using "WHOIS"
I recommend the site below as they helpfully ask you to verify you are a human each time you search. It will build your self-esteem because it provides you assurance that you are truly human and not a robot, troll, or other un-human entity.
Go Daddy - Search the WhoIs database
you will see some names are "available", while others are "not available" aka "registered" aka "available on the aftermarket if you make a serious offer" (Buying Aftermarket Domains: Advanced Domaining Lesson 3). Whois will reveal the new owner's information.

Next, you have the ability to do your own research. You have 2 options: simply type the domain name into your Internet Browser Bar and see if their is a website on the other end. Or go to the "search engine" called Google, enter the owner's information and discover for yourself the joys of answering your own questions using the same tools that other people use. Alternatively, you can turn to online gathering sites called Message Boards and ask others to do the work for you. Often, if you are actively sharing & helpful with others, they will also return the favor. But beware of the "concern trolls" that plague most message boards.

Welcome to the Internet Jeff! Be sure to tune into our next lesson where we try to help people master the fine art of using smileys in their posts. Hint: The more the better! :P:hi::talk::bingo::D:wave: See?

If you need further assistance, please see my signature below.

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[freedom30]

Hi Jeff,

Welcome to the Internet and to the Domain Industry. There are several tools at your disposal that will help you find the answers you are looking for. First, there are domain registration sites where you can check the availability of a domain name. If a domain is gone, you can use a tool called "Who Has Ownership In Something" or "WHOIS" for short (domainer lingo). In the Whois results, you will see who now owns the domain name, unless of course the name is in "privacy protected" mode. Don't worry about that... that's another lesson for later (Advanced Domaining Lesson 1). If the name is not "privacy protected" you will see the information of the current owner. Now you can use a tool called a "search engine", I highly recommend AltaVista, HotBot, DogPile or a new one that looks promising: Google. Don't forget to add the ".com" (that's called a TLD : Advanced Domaining Lesson 2). Using this tool called Google, you'll be able to do research and find out more about the domain's owner.

Hopefully that helps. If you need more assistance, here is a step by step guide:

Simply go download the list of premium .tvs - available here:
eNomCentral - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration

then as you go through the list, check to see if a name is available using "WHOIS"
I recommend the site below as they helpfully ask you to verify you are a human each time you search. It will build your self-esteem because it provides you assurance that you are truly human and not a robot, troll, or other un-human entity.
Go Daddy - Search the WhoIs database
you will see some names are "available", while others are "not available" aka "registered" aka "available on the aftermarket if you make a serious offer" (Buying Aftermarket Domains: Advanced Domaining Lesson 3). Whois will reveal the new owner's information.

Next, you have the ability to do your own research. You have 2 options: simply type the domain name into your Internet Browser Bar and see if their is a website on the other end. Or go to the "search engine" called Google, enter the owner's information and discover for yourself the joys of answering your own questions using the same tools that other people use. Alternatively, you can turn to online gathering sites called Message Boards and ask others to do the work for you. Often, if you are actively sharing & helpful with others, they will also return the favor. But beware of the "concern trolls" that plague most message boards.

Welcome to the Internet Jeff! Be sure to tune into our next lesson where we try to help people master the fine art of using smileys in their posts. Hint: The more the better! :P:hi::talk::bingo::D:wave: See?

If you need further assistance, please see my signature below.

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The fact that you have to give a remedial lesson to a jester that has pert near 30,000 posts suggests to me that he still may be in the 20th century and time hath passed him by...

 

[b2b]

Welcome to the Internet Jeff! Be sure to tune into our next lesson where we try to help people master the fine art of using smileys in their posts. Hint: The more the better! :P:hi::talk::bingo::D:wave: See?

If you need further assistance, please see my signature below.

Hahaha, and I thought I was the only one that thought this was extremely irritating!!:bah:

 

[MrRhee]

The fact that you have to give a remedial lesson to a jester that has pert near 30,000 posts suggests to me that he still may be in the 20th century and time hath passed him by...

30,000 posts. WOW. That's dedication. There must be a lot of substance and wisdom contained within those 30,000 posts. I had no idea he was a regular.

Jeff, it is totally my mistake. I assumed based on the questions you've been asking that you may not know about all the tools that are available to you. :O Also, you may want to have your keyboard checked out as I believe your Cut&Paste buttons are stuck. _\|/_:hi:

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[Vito]

Hey Cambkey great thread!!!
Thx.

@MrRhee,
Thank you very much for the thorough "Price War" info.

and btw, Awesome Signature! :lol:

 

[MrRhee]

Hey Cambkey great thread!!!
Thx.

@MrRhee,
Thank you very much for the thorough "Price War" info.

and btw, Awesome Signature! :lol:

thanks & thanks.

more on the price war early next week. If anyone has been watching the repricing activity (drops & pops, i.e. $1,000,000 price tags), I foresee a big announcement coming down the pipeline. Perhaps something is planned and the 7 figure temporary pricing is an early indicator.

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[Vito]

I foresee a big announcement coming down the pipeline. Perhaps something is planned and the 7 figure temporary pricing is an early indicator.

God, I HATE when you do that MrRhee!!! :lol:

Ok so what do you know????

For as long as I have been reading all of your stellar and very informative Posts,
one thing JUST occurred to me. Your Username...

I was just thinking you have always eluded to things way before they happen, and they always DO happen. You are the one that is constantly "In the know", then I was thinking this guy really is a Mystery.

MrRhee = Mystery...
(Yeah, I guess I'm slow)...LOL

Very Cool User Name.

 

[Jeff]

Welcome to the Internet and to the Domain Industry. There are several tools at your disposal that will help you find the answers you are looking for.

Thanks for the post, I was unable to locate any brick & mortar retail, travel companies, or eye doctors that you referenced in your earlier post;

What most domainers may not realize is that many Premiums are being picked off the list EVERYDAY by end-users. On my own, I'm tracking all the premiums that sell and watching who the buyers are and I see plenty of end-users in the mix, ranging from Brick&Mortar retail; to Travel companies; to Eye Doctors.

Rather than finding Premiums being picked up daily by End users, I simply found registrations and acquistions by known DOMAINERS; hopefully you will keep us apprised with any subsequent stand-alone ".TV" developments ... but 10+ years history reminds me to be sceptical of any such aspirations, IMHO. :red:

Best regards,
Jeff

 

[MrRhee]

Thanks for the post, I was unable to locate any brick & mortar retail, travel companies, or eye doctors that you referenced in your earlier post;

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...

 

[DU]

thanks & thanks.

more on the price war early next week. If anyone has been watching the repricing activity (drops & pops, i.e. $1,000,000 price tags), I foresee a big announcement coming down the pipeline. Perhaps something is planned and the 7 figure temporary pricing is an early indicator.

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Looks like the 7 figure temporary pricing was just a hold on new regged premiums.

Looks like name.com has no updated to make any of these now read as $19.99.

name.com price matches but you have to call them then they have to get back to you and then they tell you about a 3% premium they have to charge. I guess they don't like making $0 on what the base charge to them is.

 

[lincolndsp]

yeah, end-users are picking domains fast - the one I was watching but was expensive for me Brain .tv - now picked up by an end-user.

 

[Vito]

yeah, end-users are picking domains fast - the one I was watching but was expensive for me Brain .tv - now picked up by an end-user.

Exactly!

i just got burned on a couple by waiting too long.
You just cant wait anymore. If you have that name on your list and you keep going back to it, researching it, and keep thinking, maybe...but it is still at the top of your list, I bet you its on the top of 10 other peoples lists also, so ya better grab it right away if you are gonna be pissed at yourself for waiting too long now.

On another note, the last two Premiums I picked up were cheapest at enom, and not Name. Just a week or 2 ago, Name was cheaper. We will all collectively have to stay on top of the best pricing now, because luckily there is a Premium .TV price war going on between the registrars.