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I feel mtld has been exaggerating the nature of the contributions of some of the backers. Initially, it all looks fine and dandy... But then, ask yourself -- when in history have that many multi-billion dollar corporations sided together on anything? I don't think mtld is as special in this regard, as they attempt to portray themselves to be. Now, I'm not saying .mobi isn't a great idea -- I like .mobi myself and wouldn't have invested in it otherwise. However, I highly doubt the likes of some of these behemoths are really interested in whether mtld succeeds or not. From a global standpoint, these multi-billion dollar corporations are only interested in ensuring that the mobile web becomes a success and that standards are in place to increase the likelihood and magnitude of their success.

Look at the market capitalization of some of the companies that mtld claims are investors...

I don't blame mtld for taking the approach that they have -- it makes sense from a purely economic point of view. Look how many domain names in every single extension are owned by domainers... Mtld can gurantee themselves a decent payday, merely by pushing these names at us, regardless of the perception .mobi forms years down the road in the general public's mind.

And saying mtld is not running things the way they are, solely for profit -- is a major misconception IMO. I'll liken that to thinking ICANN is actually a real non-profit... http://www.isp-planet.com/letters/icann_money.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/05/icann_registerfly_litigation/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/25/0611209

Of course -- if one digs deep enough, once can dig up dirt on just about anything or anyone... But the fact remains, that all of mtld's moves so far have been carefully planned in an attempt to maximize revenue (i.e. RFP, premium name allocation, "investor propaganda",...)

Is this wrong? No -- they're a for-profit corporation... This is to be expected. However, what is troubling, is that this company is being run by a bunch of mid-level marketers, not experts in the field of economics, not former CEO's of companies... Just marketers -- no offence intended, but do they really think they have the economic know-how to properly undertake what they're attempting; foraging into unchartered waters?

Releasing those premium names will be a challenge in it's own right. Mtld has already proven themselves unprepared by the joke the RFP has become. We can give them excuses all we want -- the RFP was supposed to be settled months ago. Applications originally ended when? Was it not mid-December? I think that another word now comes to mind... Disorganized.

How on Earth could it take this long to sort this out? The applications were extended... But they still ended on February 16. This was for 4 names. Yes! Four names -- not forty, not four hundred, and certainly not four thousand! So, do we really think they're up to the task of releasing these premium names? I, personally, do not think they're up to the task. I believe they're doing about as bad of a job as imaginable. Every time they delay the RFP, they're telling the "backers", and us alike, that they're unprepared for the task at hand.

We're talking about a whole new Internet here... Are they really cut out for the task? A list of things which really need to be addressed follows:

1. RFP (who, what, when, why)
Who is going to win the RFP's? Is preference being given to large corporations over individuals or smaller organizations with comparable ideas?
What can be done to ensure that the RFP's don't end up in the hands of domainers? Price is not an effective barrier as many domainers have more money than developers.
When are we going to finally have the RFP results? When are future RFP's going to take place?
Why has this RFP taken so much longer than initially anticipated? Why will future RFP's be different? Why does mtld deliberately avoid the Namepros forum, which collectively has invested far more money than readers of their blog, or other websites they respond on?

2. Premium Name Allocation (what, when, why)
What method will be used to allocate the premium names? I find it hard to believe you're capable of releasing thousands of names via RFP (if the current ongoing one is any indicator), or via auctions, if profit maximization is your goal, which it appears to be.
When can we honestly expect premium names to begin being released at a meaningful rate?
Why are you loaning out the city names (i.e. Helsinki) rather than giving them to the respective cities, something which I thought was the assumed intention, early on for reserving them.

3. Nature of the investments made in mtld (what, when, why, how)
What is the nature of the investments made by these backers? Have they all made equal contributions? Are the contributions strictly monetary in nature, or are these companies also interested in aiding your extension in a meaningful way, other than to hedge their commercial interests?
When can we expect these backers to start using the .mobi extension in a meaningful way, advertising the .mobi extension, or otherwise promoting it's use?
Why are these investors interested in mtld? Are they strictly interested in the commercial applications of the mobile web and how standardization may assist them in initiating their corporate agendas?
How do you plan on recruiting additional backers? How do you plan on encouraging your current backers to promote .mobi specifically, rather than the mobile web as a whole? How do you plan on getting the general public interested in .mobi if the corporate backers aren't willing to risk promoting .mobi in a meaningful way, and prefer to spend their advertising dollars on the mobile web as a whole, so as to ensure that their marketing dollars are not wasted on a fledgling extension?

4. Convincing the general public and corporations alike of the need for a mobile web in light of the iPhone and future, even more capable devices (what, when, why, how)
What advertising efforts will you be undertaking in the near future to ensure that the iPhone, and competitors to it that many companies are currently working on, will not convince the general public that there is no need for a mobile internet?
When will you begin your Consumer Awareness Campaign? Technology changes very rapidly. Our video game consoles today are more powerful than the instruments NASA used to send man to the moon. You have a distinct advantage in beginning as soon as possible -- beginning before the iPhone and it's competitors hit the market gives you a competitive edge. Don't let the public be wowed enough by these devices that they see no reason for a mobile web when presented with reasons for one.
Why have you waiting so long to begin your Consumer Awareness Campaign? Is it because a large majority of people still don't use cell phones for internet browsing? If you wait until bandwidth costs come down, it will be too late. By then, there will be no need for the mobile web. Ever heard of the technology singularity? That isn't science fiction! As we get more advanced and build more advanced devices, the advanced devices in turn allow us to build more advanced devices. It's the same premise behind Moore's Law. Why are there so many technological breakthroughs recently? What makes you think that technology to allow enjoyable browsing on cell phones isn't in the very near future? Don't waste time! This is your chance, don't blow it.
How will you position your product (the dotmobi extension) in light of innovations such as the iPhone? How do you plan on convincing companies that .mobi is a better means for standardization than redirects to m-prefixed subdomains?


This is by no means an exhaustive list, merely a list of some of the questions which are at the very top of my mind -- and should be at the top of yours!
We need to get these questions answered... Not so I, Jeff, or Labrocca can be satisfied... We need these questions answered so that everyone making an investment in .mobi, whether it be in domain names or developments, knows exactly what they're getting into.

Until then, I'm forced to call it as Garrett previously did -- a gamble with better odds than 40 million to 1.
 
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.mobi is worthless exactly like .net , .org , .info .....(.biz is even more worthless lol).

But who cares? People will use it anyway.

.com is worthless too......not yet but it will become worthless in few years: when all people will use mainly their ccTlds.
 
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italiandragon said:
.mobi is worthless exactly like .net , .org , .info .....(.biz is even more worthless lol).

But who cares? People will use it anyway.

.com is worthless too......not yet but it will become worthless in few years: when all people will use mainly their ccTlds.

.com will never be worthless. Way too many cctld's have stupid restrictions which hamper their use.
 
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Reece said:
.com will never be worthless. Way too many cctld's have stupid restrictions which hamper their use.


never say never my friend, things DO change...they even made Bush a President! :'(
 
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italiandragon said:
never say never my friend, things DO change...they even made Bush a President! :'(

Yes, now that I would NEVER have imagined -- at least not the second time D-:
 
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italiandragon said:
never say never my friend, things DO change...they even made Bush a President! :'(

I like your countries .it extension...

Very usefull in this information technologie age. I know some dutch it companies with the .it extension.

Martin
 
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Great rave Reece!
One of the best threads I've read on NP to date, and I agree with most sentiments expressed here today.
It's definitely time for Pinky's crew to start thinking about giving .mobi a higher media profile, to start letting the world know about the mobile net, but because there's not much content out there, I'd tread very carefully. I wouldn't leap into a full scale global campaign at this moment in time.
Maybe for now, they could just let the punters know that it's birth has begun, it's being built right now, and that it's growing every day.
Then it's just a matter of keeping the media updated and interested by the occasional high profile media release or feature on selected sites of interest, and go from there.
Basically they need to get, and keep, the .mobi name in the press and on peoples minds.
Here's an idea!

"Hello clunky old desktop computer, what'cha been up to?"
"Well, you know, just the usual, been sitting here on my desk plugged into the wall and trying to get on line. How about you 3G mobile phone?"
"Oh, I've had a great day! First I went to the gym, then I caught up with some friends at the cafe, I had a hot date for dinner, and I've just got home now."

Which reminds me...

I've seen plenty of TV and print media articles on Apple's iPhone here in NZ, and anyone can find Steve Jobs keynote address online, but I have yet to see one mention of .mobi in the media here at all. There may have been, but the thing is, not one person I've asked has ever heard of .mobi but they've all heard of iPhone, AND they want one!
I'm convinced the mobile internet is going to be big, and that in the not to distant future people will be using it several times a day, particularly for maps and directions, (which recent surveys have highlighted), but whether .mobi is going to be the name on every ones lips is all up to the Pinkster and co.
They definitely need to get some PR guru's on the case, and real soon.
And yeah... How the hell long does it take to sell 4 little names!!!
Keep up the good raves domainers.
 
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Thanks spaceguru :)

And yes, Steve Jobs is in a league of his own... We can all learn a thing or two from him. Rather than making contacts at industry events, perhaps mtld should try to get on Steve's good side. Would do the extension a whole lot more good if they could IMO.
 
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Reece - great passion - one of the 10 most interesting and informative threads. It would become the #1 best thread if Pinky would take the time to respond to the many timely and valid points raised.

One thing confuses me though... not too long ago, after the second series of TRAFFIC auctions we seemed to be complaining that the best names were being released into the hands of domainers, and not end-users. Now I hear that mtld ignores and doesn't care about domainers. :| :-/
 
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mobidick said:
Reece - great passion - one of the 10 most interesting and informative threads. It would become the #1 best thread if Pinky would take the time to respond to the many timely and valid points raised.

One thing confuses me though... not too long ago, after the second series of TRAFFIC auctions we seemed to be complaining that the best names were being released into the hands of domainers, and not end-users. Now I hear that mtld ignores and doesn't care about domainers. :| :-/

I think the complaints were mainly centered around the fact that mtld claimed that by selling premiums via auctions and the RFP, we could ensure they would end up in good hands -- something which has obviously not proven true. I really don't see any way to prevent good names from getting into domainer's hands. Granted the names are ending up with domainers anyway, for the most part, many people (myself included) feel that reserving a large portion of the names they did was more of a moneygrab or more specifically, an attempt to prevent domainers from profiting, while simultaneously lining their own pockets.

Some domainers feel they were deceived on some of mtld's intentions regarding this matter. Perhaps deceived isn't the best word -- let's just say that mtld was less than forthcoming regarding this situation.
 
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Reece said:
I think the complaints were mainly centered around the fact that mtld claimed that by selling premiums via auctions and the RFP, we could ensure they would end up in good hands -- something which has obviously not proven true. I really don't see any way to prevent good names from getting into domainer's hands. Granted the names are ending up with domainers anyway, for the most part, many people (myself included) feel that reserving a large portion of the names they did was more of a moneygrab or more specifically, an attempt to prevent domainers from profiting, while simultaneously lining their own pockets.

Some domainers feel they were deceived on some of mtld's intentions regarding this matter. Perhaps deceived isn't the best word -- let's just say that mtld was less than forthcoming regarding this situation.
Well said. Having been involved in a previous tld landrush, I thought at the time, why are these names just being released and not auctioned off? I mean, it's plain as day that these names have great value.

Well I wouldn't be surprised if the next tld releases have a much larger pool of premiums to be auctioned off. It only makes cents IMO - they would be fools not to.
 
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mobidick said:
Well said. Having been involved in a previous tld landrush, I thought at the time, why are these names just being released and not auctioned off? I mean, it's plain as day that these names have great value.

Well I wouldn't be surprised if the next tld releases have a much larger pool of premiums to be auctioned off. It only makes cents IMO - they would be fools not to.

Yep, if we put an average price of say, $10k on each of those premium reserved names -- something I think may actually be a modest estimation when we consider how much names like sex.mobi, poker.mobi, porn.mobi, etc will up the average, we come to the conclusion that mtld will take in tens of millions of dollars in premium name sales alone... As you said -- it just makes cents :)
 
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It's always good to discuss both the good and bad of any investment and this thread seems fairly balanced. I think a lot has been covered but I'll toss out these thoughts:

1. I am still waiting for a Dot Com spokesman to come and explain their proposed price increases. I wish more TLDs like dot biz and Info etc would have a presence here as well. In the mean time on this Friday I look forward to Neil Edwards interview at http://www.PodLeaders.com. Many NP members posted questions for him on the subjects we are rehashing here.

2. Rome wasn't built in a day. Cliche yes but fitting perhaps. Until there is adequate content to appease comsumers there will be no marketing campaign towards end users. Just makes sense. I'm not going to invite you to my place of business when the store is still being built. Same applies here.

3. Marketing MOBI to consumers is still well over a year off in my mind. To help get to this level of achievement I think synchronicity within the ecosystem would help. Increasing communication between the different sectors of the mobile internet industry and setting dates to test for consumer rediness would be useful IMO.

4. Dot Mobi has the most aggressive business plan of any TLD period. I would encourage members to visit their development forum http://www.Dev.mobi if you are a developer or want to keep abreast of development issues for the TLD. For larger players I recommend at least getting an observer membership to MAG. This group is mostly for active partners in the mobile internet but I am excited by the discussions I've been privy to. It's not all NOW and it's not all Bells and Whistles but it's practical problem and solution discussion regarding making things work well for the mobile internet. (I give credit to Dot TV as I think they have some great ideas as well. The 2nddary market is very tight though as 53,000 premium names leaves it a bit lacking.)

5. Last thought. Please be kind to Pinky. My guess is the guy is busting his tail for MOBI. Sure it's disappointing that he hasn't made it back but we have the CEO giving the podcast in a couple days and I'm sure Pinky will get here eventually. Only Dot TV and Dot mobi have been forward thinking enough to have reps here so let's do our best to foster these relationships.

My 2 cents.........
 
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Intelligent post Reece. Rep added :)
 
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Reece said:
... the easiest way mtld could increase the value of the dotmobi extension would be to start developing mini-sites for the premium names they're currently holding.
Carlton said:
Very good suggestion. In fact, those are the names most likely typed in by first time users ... and what a help if they could find something of value when visiting a premium name site.

Yes, it would definitely be to Dot Mobi's benefit to create mini sites for premiums. That's a lot of wasted advertising potential. Plus it would look much better for their development push. You might want to charge them for this advice ;)
 
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think said:
2. ....Until there is adequate content to appease comsumers there will be no marketing campaign towards end users. Just makes sense. ....

3. Marketing MOBI to consumers is still well over a year off in my mind. ....

4. Dot Mobi has the most aggressive business plan of any TLD period. I would encourage members to visit their development forum http://www.Dev.mobi if you are a developer or want to keep abreast of development issues for the TLD. ....

5. Last thought. Please be kind to Pinky. My guess is the guy is busting his tail for MOBI. .... let's do our best to foster these relationships.

Very good points.

Marketing MOBI (and individual mobi names) to businesses who understand getting out in front of the curve is taking place now by individuals who have nice generic names and will only accelerate from here. When Dot Mobi kicks in it will be exciting.

I think most serious people here in the NP MOBI section acknowledge the large effort that Dot Mobi has made with offering the dev.mobi site, certification program, making numerous trade show and conference appearances worldwide, and other marketing efforts. Nothing is 100% perfect especially the first time around but I understand that a few more answers from MTLD over the next week or two from established channels will help alleviate some of the hand-wringing.
 
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