Moniker GeoDomain Live Auction

[airwav]

Anyone know what time this starts?

Here is the link:
http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/detail.html?auction_id=182

To all that have names in the auction, good luck! %%-

 

[abcproductions]

I was just on DiscussNames message board and read several posts regarding my comments made here in this NP thread. In my first post there, which I've copied for you to view below, I responded to those who felt I was making up some of the facts I stated about one registrant having hundreds of names in the silent auction.

I saw some of those names people are talking about and I doubt they were all registered last month.

First let me say, if you know of the names and doubt they were registered recently, why don't you just check the whois info yourself?

Now, let me clarify for all of you who think someone is making false allegations about one registrant having nearly 1000 domains included in the Geo silent auction. I'm the one who posted this FACT on NamePros. (if you want to read all the posts on NP, here's the link to the thread http://www.namepros.com/396804-moniker-geodomain-live-auction-2.html)

I checked the whois info on several domains with minimum reserves being offered in the silent auction because many of the names were similar. (It was not because I was upset that my submissions did not make it. I have eight in the silent and I'm happy with that.) After viewing the whois info (which all of you are welcome to do), I noticed that the same registrant was listed on name after name (registrant Gilbert and Partners Ventures, LLC) and that each name was registered on 9/20/07. (And I don't appreciate the comments that I am making this up when you can spend 10 seconds and verify it for yourself.) Furthermore, I didn't say there was anything illegal about this, I just thought it was peculiar that so many names were owned by one registrant and that they were all registered two months ago through Moniker. It made me feel that this regsitrant may have been given special consideration or has some special relationship with Moniker. There has been no response from Moniker on the NP board as of yet so I don't know their side of the story.

I have not wasted any more of my time checking the whois on additional domains because once I checked a random selection of approx 70 names with the $360 reserve price and they all came back with identical registrant info, i knew the others would likely yield the same results. (go ahead and do some checking yourself. the info is readily available.)

here are a few you can check:
anaheimrecycling.com
indianapoliscommunities.com
vancouverpodiatrist.com
knoxvillehospice.com
birminghamgolflessons.com
torontoautomobiles.com
newhampshiredermatology.com
illinoisgolflessons.com
knoxvillegolflessons.com
oklahomacab.com
saltlakeveterinarian.com
baltimorepetstore.com
clevelandrecycling.com
anaheimrentalproperty.com
charlottebankruptcylaw.com
torontotransmission.com
northcarolinaorthodontics.com
neworleansrehabilitation.com

Frankly, Moniker can do whatever they want. It is their event. I have only had positive dealings with Moniker thus far and completely enjoy dealing with my rep but the truth is the truth. ..one registrant has a large proportion of the names in the silent auction and they were registered recently through Moniker.

 

[wot]

I was just on DiscussNames message board and read several posts regarding my comments made here in this NP thread. In my first post there, which I've copied for you to view below, I responded to those who felt I was making up some of the facts I stated about one registrant having hundreds of names in the silent auction.



First let me say, if you know of the names and doubt they were registered recently, why don't you just check the whois info yourself?

Now, let me clarify for all of you who think someone is making false allegations about one registrant having nearly 1000 domains included in the Geo silent auction. I'm the one who posted this FACT on NamePros. (if you want to read all the posts on NP, here's the link to the thread http://www.namepros.com/396804-moniker-geodomain-live-auction-2.html)

I checked the whois info on several domains with minimum reserves being offered in the silent auction because many of the names were similar. (It was not because I was upset that my submissions did not make it. I have eight in the silent and I'm happy with that.) After viewing the whois info (which all of you are welcome to do), I noticed that the same registrant was listed on name after name (registrant Gilbert and Partners Ventures, LLC) and that each name was registered on 9/20/07. (And I don't appreciate the comments that I am making this up when you can spend 10 seconds and verify it for yourself.) Furthermore, I didn't say there was anything illegal about this, I just thought it was peculiar that so many names were owned by one registrant and that they were all registered two months ago through Moniker. It made me feel that this regsitrant may have been given special consideration or has some special relationship with Moniker. There has been no response from Moniker on the NP board as of yet so I don't know their side of the story.

I have not wasted any more of my time checking the whois on additional domains because once I checked a random selection of approx 70 names with the $360 reserve price and they all came back with identical registrant info, i knew the others would likely yield the same results. (go ahead and do some checking yourself. the info is readily available.)

here are a few you can check:
anaheimrecycling.com
indianapoliscommunities.com
vancouverpodiatrist.com
knoxvillehospice.com
birminghamgolflessons.com
torontoautomobiles.com
newhampshiredermatology.com
illinoisgolflessons.com
knoxvillegolflessons.com
oklahomacab.com
saltlakeveterinarian.com
baltimorepetstore.com
clevelandrecycling.com
anaheimrentalproperty.com
charlottebankruptcylaw.com
torontotransmission.com
northcarolinaorthodontics.com
neworleansrehabilitation.com

Frankly, Moniker can do whatever they want. It is their event. I have only had positive dealings with Moniker thus far and completely enjoy dealing with my rep but the truth is the truth. ..one registrant has a large proportion of the names in the silent auction and they were registered recently through Moniker.

Agreed, when I first saw your post I must admit that it seemed strange thet Moniker would allow such a thing to happen that could potentially blow up in their faces. Subsequently I also checked some of the names and came to the same conclusion, does not seem right despite Moniker being allowed to do as they wish.

As with the "silent" being deafening atm, so is Monikers response, they obviously consider it is not worth their time. Their choice.

For the record, I sold one in the live and have 9 in the silent.

 

[abcproductions]

another issue in this thread was "fake" or "false" bidding. these are not the correct terms and i think is important to clear this up. this type of bidding is called "off-the-wall bidding" and is an acceptable practice at most auctions. for a nice, concise description of this type of bidding, please visit this link:

http://www.videojug.com/interview/property-auction-craft#what-is-bidding-off-the-wall

 

[npcomplete]

another issue in this thread was "fake" or "false" bidding. these are not the correct terms and i think is important to clear this up. this type of bidding is called "off-the-wall bidding" and is an acceptable practice at most auctions. for a nice, concise description of this type of bidding, please visit this link:

http://www.videojug.com/interview/pr...g-off-the-wall

The above link is broken. Could you repost? I would love to read it. I am surprised that this is standard practice, but I know I have a lot to learn.

Marc

 

[abcproductions]

it's a video post - try this

http://www.videojug.com/interview/property-auction-craft#what-is-bidding-off-the-wall

 

[npcomplete]

Thanks ABC!!! Learn something every day. I will rep.

Marc

 

[scandiman]

another issue in this thread was "fake" or "false" bidding. these are not the correct terms and i think is important to clear this up. this type of bidding is called "off-the-wall bidding" and is an acceptable practice at most auctions. for a nice, concise description of this type of bidding, please visit this link:

http://www.videojug.com/interview/property-auction-craft#what-is-bidding-off-the-wall

Thanks for the info. This explains many things and is reflective of my observations noted in post #57. I called them phantom bids, I'm glad to now know other proper industry terms for this practice.

This confirms that indeed any pass price at this auction is completely unreliable.

 

[npcomplete]

Thanks for the info. This explains many things and is reflective of my observations noted in post #57. I called them phantom bids, I'm glad to now know other proper industry terms for this practice.

This confirms that indeed any pass price at this auction is completely unreliable.

excellent point. I had been keeping records of the pass prices from bigeduh.com as useful information for comps. Now I know that these are meaningless "comps". Of course bigeduh is still an excellent site, and during the live auction was one of the best sources of info (the dropouts of the live feed from the auction were annoying to say the least).

Marc

 

[abcproductions]

Thanks ABC!!! Learn something every day. I will rep.

Marc

i learned this from creature on another board so i will pass the rep forward.

 

[enlytend]

ABC, I don't appreciate you cross posting something I said on a different forum *out of context* on this one.

I never accused anyone, much less you personally, of making false allegations. Taken in context, my remark was a casual question not a statement, and I in fact also stated that:

1/3 of the auction being names owned by the same person is disturbing ...

Which it is. I too would like to hear some feedback about this from Moniker.

 

[creature]

Check out the world history of auctions. Fascinating stuff:

http://www.auctioneersfoundation.org/news_detail.php?id=5094

http://www.auctioneersfoundation.org/articles.php

 

[abcproductions]

ABC, I don't appreciate you cross posting something I said on a different forum *out of context* on this one.

I'm sorry enlytend. I certainly don't want to make any of this personal.

 

[Kenny]

I checked those

anaheimrecycling.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
indianapoliscommunities.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
vancouverpodiatrist.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
knoxvillehospice.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
birminghamgolflessons.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
torontoautomobiles.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
newhampshiredermatology.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
illinoisgolflessons.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
knoxvillegolflessons.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
oklahomacab.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
saltlakeveterinarian.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
baltimorepetstore.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
clevelandrecycling.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
anaheimrentalproperty.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
charlottebankruptcylaw.com Checked Taken 09-18-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
torontotransmission.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
neworleansrehabilitation.com Checked Taken 09-20-2008 MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.

 

[wot]

I checked those

And here, ladies and gentlemen, rests the case for the prosecution.

 

[Rochemontagne]

It's been a few days and we haven't heard from the defense :hehe:

 

[wot]

It's been a few days and we haven't heard from the defense :hehe:

Perhaps they are sitting on da fence

 

[Rochemontagne]

They're sitting on something!

 

[DnPresident]

Too many auctions in so short a time :?

Now you know why Monte posted here asking for bidders. :gl:

100% agreed...This is a touchy thing...I believe the industry needs TV commercial promotion. Only so much advertising online and word of mouth can do..Moniker needs to invest upwards of $1million dollars in Television commercials per auction and maybe have less auctions per year but many more audience attendees..

 

[npcomplete]

100% agreed...This is a touchy thing...I believe the industry needs TV commercial promotion. Only so much advertising online and word of mouth can do..Moniker needs to invest upwards of $1million dollars in Television commercials per auction and maybe have less auctions per year but many more audience attendees..

very good. I might disagree on the $million/auction, but perhaps somewhere between the cost of the ceo showing up a couple days before and posting a single message and $1 million. I have been saying all along "it's the marketing stupid" (to paraphrase clinton). In the last auction the total sales were below $1 million, so perhaps at least something > 0.

I can hear it now: but Marc, with advertising, the sales would be >> $1 million, and I agree. Somehow though they need to start without busting the bank first time out.

As I have said before, I complained to my account rep that finding out a few days before an auction makes it hard for the sellers to do their own marketing to encourage end-user bidders in target markets. There were also a few posts (somewhere) about how in previous auctions part of the auction admission fee was deducted from sales. There are lots of good ideas around here, some even no-cost, like providing an auction list with a *reasonable* amount of time before the auction.

Moniker is still tops IMHO, but wot's comment about market saturation and timing just sounds spot on to me with current Moniker marketing.

Marc

 

[Teddy7]

the silent auction is really ... silent