Man shot by armed police on Tube

[.Matt]

BBC : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

Shocked really.

 

[KPR]

OMG what is happening this is getting very scary especially if it is connected to yesterday and 7/11.

 

[Crusader]

Why would you shoot a guy after you've pinned him down? Did he have a bomb or something?

 

[.Matt]

Why would you shoot a guy after you've pinned him down? Did he have a bomb or something?

Well they must have thought he did have. Otherwise they wouldn't have killed him if he wasnt a threat at the time..

 

[Joseph]

Sounds like MI5 went after him.

 

[armstrong]

A possible scenario is the police killed him to keep him from pressing the button that detonates the bomb.

 

[ThreeD]

Complete chaos in London these days!? Hope things get back to normal soon (if they ever will) - must be scary as hell to live under conditions like that..

 

[.Matt]

I'm just shocked really because it's not exactly what happens in the UK. Although, saying that, the UK is changing with terrorists unfortunately.

I don't beleive they did the wrong thing though by killing the man if he was a threat.

 

[Amnezia]

They must of had a very good reason to shoot the guy because that would not normally happen

 

[Peter]

accordingf to 1 of the eye witnesses he was carrying a bomb belt.

 

[adam_uk]

to be honested i dont get how anyone can be shocked now. im not. i dont really care now. its getting a bit boring.


ive always said stuff like this will happen again, and it has.

youll never stop terrorism in my opinion.

theres always someone out there to push that little bit further and harder.

 

[ammo]

They want to get a message out, suspected of teerorist, we wont take it so they just shoot them.

Makes sence to me until innocent people start getting killed.

 

[Crusader]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/07/22/london-050722.html

London police say a man they shot to death in front of horrified subway riders Friday was "directly linked" to their investigation of recent bombings aimed at the city's transit system.

The man, who was wearing a thick coat despite the fact that it was a about 21C in the British capital, ran from plainclothes police who challenged him at the Stockwell subway station one day after four failed bombings.

Citing security sources, Britain's Sky Television said the man was not believed to be one of the four would-be bombers.

A London police spokesman said only that "the gentleman shot at Stockwell today has yet to be identified, so it would be impossible to link him to anything at this stage."

However, police continued to say the shooting was part of an operation related to the bombing probe.

A statement issued on Friday afternoon said the man who was shot "was under police observation because he had emerged from a house that was itself under observation because it was linked to the investigation of yesterday's incidents.

"He was then followed by surveillance officers to the station. His clothing and his behaviour at the station added to their suspicions."

Subway lines closed after shooting

The shooting happened shortly after 10 a.m. local time at the Stockwell station, which is close to the Oval station, one of the four sites of Thursday's attempted bombings. The Northern and Victoria subway lines, which run through Stockwell station, were shut down in the wake of the shooting.

Separately, a man was arrested in the Stockwell area later in the day after police released security-video photos of four suspects. It was not clear whether he was one of the four.

Police said the man shot in the subway was pronounced dead at the scene.

"He half-tripped and was half-pushed to the floor," passenger Mark Whitby told the British Broadcasting Corporation. "I didn't see him carrying anything."

Whitby said he saw a police officer fire five shots into the man, whom he described as South Asian and wearing a thick coat.

Eyewitnesses say the man ran into the subway station, vaulted over a barrier, ran down some stairs and tripped. Plainclothes officers then reportedly shot him in the head.

Gun use rules changed after July 7

While most police in Britain do not carry guns, officers with special licences can do so.

The standard policy saying officers should not use a gun except as a last resort was changed after the July 7 bombings, giving police the authority to shoot suspected suicide bombers first and ask questions later.

On Thursday, four people tried to set off explosive devices on three subways and one bus. The lunchtime attack caused no injuries, except for one person who was hospitalized for an asthma attack.

The July 7 bombings killed 56 people and injured more than 700.

No community a target, say police

Shortly after Friday's subway shooting, the Muslim Council of Britain issued a news release asking why police had targeted a man of South Asian origin.

Ian Blair, the head of Scotland Yard, said the investigation is not targeted against any section of any community in the United Kingdom, though three of the four suspects identified by police in connection with the July 7 bombings were British-born Muslims of Pakistani origin. (The fourth suspect was a Jamaican-born British citizen.)

Blair appealed for calm from all of the nation's ethnic communities as the investigation continues.

 

[photoshopfreak]

Great news :D

 

[BuLLDoG]

The UK gov have been getting tips off israel i belive, on how they deal with suicide bombers, you shoot to the head so you dont shoot their bombs on the chest and a shot to the head will make the person not be able to press any buttons or stuff.

All UK has changed, I walk to city centre yesterday and there is police everywere, mounted police... the lot. The tourist are grabbing loads of pictures lol. Its kind of scary to live in the UK things are changing, but we must try to get on with our lives and not let it effect us.

 

[domain4u]

Untill they get the ROOT of all this nonsense, there is no stopping it, no matter what method is used, kill/stop the ROOT and it will stop, till they only go after the bombers its going to keep going on and on and on, there must be going after the people who recruit them... These bombers are just confused people, and can't channel their confusion and anger twards other methods except violence, i think they should drink some green tea and mosques should start some THI CHI programs or something to help these guys.

Belive it or not weight lifting or karate helps too!

 

[will7]

You know what really annoys me? Lets just say, for the sake of argument, that the person did have a bomb (which, I suspect he did). Now, if he had blown up that carriage and the police had told the public that they had Armed Police following him, what would be the first thing the public would have said? "Well, why the hell didn't they shoot him?"

But, the minute the police shoot someone, even if there is a single element of doubt, the public go crazy at the them. The public would be the one's complaining to the police if they hadn't have shot the man and the train blew up and killed their son, or their cousin wouldn't they!

I, for one, think the police did the right thing. They must have been pretty sure for them to take those shots, I respect the Armed Police Department, they have to make split-second decisions, and, though I'm not denying mistakes will happen, a lot of the time they make the right decisions.

Also, the man was challenged before shots were fired. Surely, if he didn't have something to hide, he would have just put his hands up? Obviously he was there for sinister reasons or else he wouldn't have ran from the police.

 

[Ben Woodhouse]

Terrorism

I think that terrorism is the sickest thing ive ever heard. Killing innocent people for whatever reason. i cant really say much because i dont now enough about it. By the way did you now that a woman who moved to Britain from abroad to escape the terrorism in her country died in the London Bombings? Its sick.

 

[Peter]

Also, the man was challenged before shots were fired. Surely, if he didn't have something to hide, he would have just put his hands up? Obviously he was there for sinister reasons or else he wouldn't have ran from the police.

Exactly he was actually runing from them. The reason he was bveing followed was because he was seen by police coming out aof a property that was under surveilance.

 

[Crusader]

Is this all speculation or have the news services confirmed this? I'm starting to wonder, did this man understand english?

In my mind, foreign country + men with guns following me + yelling in different language = scary.