LLLL pipe dreams!

[hawkeye]

I found this site today, and I'm sorry, but I just don't see or get these prices. Am I missing something here on LLLL's, or is somebody else missing something!

Just curious as to why the high expectations on these LLLL's. Also feel the title is somewhat off base here too. (no offense to the site owner)

 

[raredn.com]

bike 500k sedo june 2006 is up there

Indeed ecalc, fantastic cvcv there

Anyone know of any big random letter combination cvcv, I think there were some around the $20,000 mark for really good random letters at sedo? Any more info anyone

 

[bobdigital]

I like the site too, it is one of the nicer looking ones I've seen. It gives credibility to the domain game.
The pricing is a little premature.
I really like the "special offer" at the bottom.

 

[Shasta]

Similar Sales...
Kudo.com $40,000.00 07/23/2008 Sedo
moot.com $45,000.00 07/22/2008 Sedo
ozmo.com $25,000.00 07/09/2008 Sedo
sumo.com $150,000.00 05/24/2008 Sedo
Reos.com $25,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
UNET.com $100,000.00 02/01/2008 Sedo
Foom.com $21,000.00 01/28/2008 PrivateSale
RACY.com $25,000.00 01/16/2008 NameJet
cobb.com $28,500.00 05/14/2007 Sedo
buff.com $40,500.00 02/28/2007 Moniker
moka.com $72,223.00 02/28/2007 Sedo
bing.com $25,375.00 02/20/2007 Sedo
indi.com $22,033.00 01/04/2007 SnapNames
laon.com $500,249.00 01/04/2007 SnapNames
infi.com $57,500.00 10/17/2006 Sedo
jibs.com $22,472.00 09/22/2006
loco.com $50,000.00 04/11/2006 DigiPawn

 

[raredn.com]

Similar Sales...
Kudo.com $40,000.00 07/23/2008 Sedo
moot.com $45,000.00 07/22/2008 Sedo
ozmo.com $25,000.00 07/09/2008 Sedo
sumo.com $150,000.00 05/24/2008 Sedo
Reos.com $25,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
UNET.com $100,000.00 02/01/2008 Sedo
Foom.com $21,000.00 01/28/2008 PrivateSale
RACY.com $25,000.00 01/16/2008 NameJet
cobb.com $28,500.00 05/14/2007 Sedo
buff.com $40,500.00 02/28/2007 Moniker
moka.com $72,223.00 02/28/2007 Sedo
bing.com $25,375.00 02/20/2007 Sedo
indi.com $22,033.00 01/04/2007 SnapNames
laon.com $500,249.00 01/04/2007 SnapNames
infi.com $57,500.00 10/17/2006 Sedo
jibs.com $22,472.00 09/22/2006
loco.com $50,000.00 04/11/2006 DigiPawn

Awesome Gary thankyou for listing this information which will be useful to many :tu:

 

[sibaong]

Jul 17, 2008: kudo.com - $40,000 (Afternic) :tu:

 

[ecalc]

I understood you up to here, then you lost me ...

why in the heck would I want a name longer than 4 letter and why in the heck would I want a name shorter than that (CCC) that doesn't make sense?

Yes there are many examples of 4 letter brand names, but is 4 really the optimum default number of letters that global branding bigwigs demand? A google search of "brand name length" returns 174 results. Either no one cares or the subject is top secret. Furthermore, Dick van Dyke aka Rob Petrie Darrin in Bewitched never mentioned it once.

 

[Tempest111]

The names are certainly overpriced. At these prices the owner is definitely missing out on potential customers. There seems to be this idea that endusers only apply to multi million dollar companies. What about the small/midsize business thats willing to spend up to 10k on a cvcv? At the very least the owner of these names should be willing to negotiate.

 

[italiandragon]

bike 500k sedo june 2006 is up there

Wine.com $3,300,000.00

09-2003

POPA.com was one of the highest non-dictionary ones.

But as I said, at NUCOM.com I have been asked $25,000 for a non dictionary one.

 

[accent]

SEDO bought their .com name, a year or two after they were using sedo in other extension(s), for about $60,000 - at least that is how I heard the story. The name was someone's surname and he did not want to sell so they kept raising the offer 'till he could not say no.

My economics teacher would place a graph on the blackboard every day. Price and demand. Raise the price and demand goes down --- down, but not to zero when you are dealing with an irreplaceable item. There is only one SEDO.com. Lots and lots of brandables out there, of any length, but one SEDO.com. If you want that one ya gotta pay.

This is exactly my thinking when I was buying LLLLs a couple years ago - I focused mostly on letter quality instead of brandability. Most everybody else was chasing pronouncables (semi-pronouncables, actually, by that time). I felt that I had better chances to find end users who really really needed my one particular domain if I had better letters.

I am not saying that I was right, no end user has yet come calling. But I do not want to sell now at domainer prices. No No No. I choose my domains with a lot of care. Why should I let someone cherry pick what they like from me at reseller prices, and then have to spend my time replacing it by going through everybody else's domains, also at reseller prices? No No No.

I see the LLLL.com market as currently selling for a small fraction of it's future value. Indeed any domain I buy I see that way. If I have to cash out some to pay the bills then fine, I will sell at market. Otherwise they are long term investments, for sale only if someone wants to pay now what I believe they will be worth later.

There is no obligation for a domain owner to be a flipper. Some of us are not.

 

[gr8trfoo]

The names are certainly overpriced. At these prices the owner is definitely missing out on potential customers. There seems to be this idea that endusers only apply to multi million dollar companies. What about the small/midsize business thats willing to spend up to 10k on a cvcv? At the very least the owner of these names should be willing to negotiate.

You can't really have "customers" in this game because every single domain is a solitary and unique object. Theres nothing to get "accustomed" to. The only people who might regularly buy from you are other domainers.

Naturally Classy is going to turn away those looking for a thousand dollar (or less) name. Too bad, eh. If he sells just one of his names for 30k a year isnt that better than selling 30 of them for 1k each? If more domainers had this atitude then domains would actually start selling for what they're really worth. But the vast majority are in the game for a quick flip and a fast buck.

BTW, has anyone ever looked into what "Branding" consultants charge? It would stagger most here.

 

[accent]

....... BTW, has anyone ever looked into what "Branding" consultants charge? It would stagger most here.

Or the cost of prime commercial real estate, for that matter. Decent domains currently sell for a tiny fraction of their possible future value.

 

[Compassion]

These are reasonable end user prices. Take a zero off each one for a namepros type price on them.

One of them is a last name of a friend of mine - that adds some value.

Simple well done end-user site.

 

[Hurley4540]

Thought those prices were high but then I saw the similar sales

 

[cache]

good point.

SEDO bought their .com name, a year or two after they were using sedo in other extension(s), for about $60,000 - at least that is how I heard the story. The name was someone's surname and he did not want to sell so they kept raising the offer 'till he could not say no.

My economics teacher would place a graph on the blackboard every day. Price and demand. Raise the price and demand goes down --- down, but not to zero when you are dealing with an irreplaceable item. There is only one SEDO.com. Lots and lots of brandables out there, of any length, but one SEDO.com. If you want that one ya gotta pay.

This is exactly my thinking when I was buying LLLLs a couple years ago - I focused mostly on letter quality instead of brandability. Most everybody else was chasing pronouncables (semi-pronouncables, actually, by that time). I felt that I had better chances to find end users who really really needed my one particular domain if I had better letters.

I am not saying that I was right, no end user has yet come calling. But I do not want to sell now at domainer prices. No No No. I choose my domains with a lot of care. Why should I let someone cherry pick what they like from me at reseller prices, and then have to spend my time replacing it by going through everybody else's domains, also at reseller prices? No No No.

I see the LLLL.com market as currently selling for a small fraction of it's future value. Indeed any domain I buy I see that way. If I have to cash out some to pay the bills then fine, I will sell at market. Otherwise they are long term investments, for sale only if someone wants to pay now what I believe they will be worth later.

There is no obligation for a domain owner to be a flipper. Some of us are not.