news LLLL.net & LLLL.org Sales Reports And Discussion

[Prometheus]

I think it is needed to have a discussion thread of 4L.net & 4L.org end-user sales, especially after the buyout of those assets. Since Namebio.com is not able to track all of the transactions (email contact, Afternic, etc.), please feel free to contribute as much as relevant, maybe reporting your own sales.

Here are some sales on namebio:

daka.net, 2999 USD, 2016-04-07, Sedo
cfba.net, 2336 USD, 2016-04-06, BuyDomains
huis.net, 1530 USD, 2016-04-06, DropCatch
euwi.net, 610 USD, 2016-03-31, GoDaddy
agea.net, 424 USD, 2016-03-29, DropCatch
kite.net, 1655 USD, 2016-03-28, NameJet
dibs.net, 849 USD, 2016-03-25, Flippa
vape.net, 9000 USD, 2016-03-24, Sedo
nolo.net, 356 USD, 2016-03-23, GoDaddy
hola.net, 2000 USD, 2016-03-21, NameJet
omtp.org, 1011 USD, 2016-04-12, NameJet
poem.org, 8000 USD, 2016-04-09, NameJet
tcba.org, 1742 USD, 2016-04-06, BuyDomains
treu.org, 3388 USD, 2016-04-05, BuyDomains
onrc.org, 361 USD, 2016-04-05, NameJet
iaid.org, 4140 USD, 2016-04-01, Sedo
humo.org, 3000 USD, 2016-03-30, Sedo
gpwg.org, 810 USD, 2016-03-23, GoDaddy
lcam.org, 1888 USD, 2016-03-17, BuyDomains
caps.org, 9875 USD, 2016-03-13, Grit Brokerage

Please post only confirmed sales.

 

[forge]

Yes, they were registration ($4.99) fee.

Where currently can you register.org for $4.99?

 

[alcy]

Where currently can you register.org for $4.99?

gd
cjcrmnorg

 

[bazabizo]

gd
cjcrmnorg

is there a limit to the number of domains to be registered? can I register a 100 with this code?

 

[alcy]

is there a limit to the number of domains to be registered? can I register a 100 with this code?

I don't think there is a limit. so as long as it gives you discount in your cart your good to go

 

[Federer]

There is no limit with that code.

The 750 LLLL.org I registered are West-Premium w/vowels.
None contain: J, K, Q, V, W, X, Y, Z.

 

[alcy]

There is no limit with that code.

The 750 LLLL.org I registered are West-Premium w/vowels.
None contain: J, K, Q, V, W, X, Y, Z.

nice
hope u make roi
thanks for sharing
I am quite sure there are no more west prems left without vowels.

cheers

 

[Federer]

Has anyone sold any 4L.org with W, J, K or X?

Also, not sure if 4L.org with 2 vowels have less brand appeal/probabilities of selling than those without vowels, or with just 1....

 

[Federer]

These end user sales are encouraging.

I think I am going to buy some more LLLL.org - I really do think it's a numbers game. If you have 1000 4L.org, you are sure to sell at least 10 domains per year, an average of nearly 1 a month (1%). Even 1.5% would be possible with strategic BIN pricing IMO. The average of my 2 end users since Nov 2015 is $4200/sale.

I purchased 350 west-premium 4L.org in Nov '15 (and 200 Chinese types) and have already sold for $8,500 worth. The only issue is the renewal fees..... but just 2-3 solid sales during the year would cover those.
I am sure the more you own, the more will sel.

Not sure if my reasoning is correct....

 

[alcy]

These end user sales are encouraging.

I think I am going to buy some more LLLL.org - I really do think it's a numbers game. If you have 1000 4L.org, you are sure to sell at least 10 domains per year, an average of nearly 1 a month (1%). Even 1.5% would be possible with strategic BIN pricing IMO. The average of my 2 end users since Nov 2015 is $4200/sale.

I purchased 350 west-premium 4L.org in Nov '15 (and 200 Chinese types) and have already sold for $8,500 worth. The only issue is the renewal fees..... but just 2-3 solid sales during the year would cover those.
I am sure the more you own, the more will sel.

Not sure if my reasoning is correct....

the problems I see:

-u cannot be sure to sell at least X per year. cause domaining has no guarantees.

-the more you buy, the more you sell, but also the more renewal u pay. obviously.

-it is possible 4l.org with most potential are no longer left for reg. so at this stage of this "game" this could further decrease your sale chances. in other words, u canot assume in your equation that 4l.org available to reg when 90% of all of them were left to reg have same potential of sale as when say 20% of them are left to reg. logically, quality decreases with time in dn regging.

jmo

 

[Federer]

Based on sales of 4L.org to end users over the past 24 months, there is a mix of

1) 4 consonants (all taken now)
2) consonants AND vowels

In fact, there have been more MORE 4L.org sales consisting of "west-premium domains with consonants+vowels" than of 4L.org with just consonants -

Ex. these types:

crgi.org
eaas.org
usbd.org
itga.org
ssef.org
treu.org
prri.org

Those (and many more) all sold to end users.

- that shows there is very much a healthy end user demand for these types.

There are still 4L.org in that second group available to register.

 

[Apprich]

These end user sales are encouraging.

I think I am going to buy some more LLLL.org - I really do think it's a numbers game. If you have 1000 4L.org, you are sure to sell at least 10 domains per year, an average of nearly 1 a month (1%). Even 1.5% would be possible with strategic BIN pricing IMO. The average of my 2 end users since Nov 2015 is $4200/sale.

I purchased 350 west-premium 4L.org in Nov '15 (and 200 Chinese types) and have already sold for $8,500 worth. The only issue is the renewal fees..... but just 2-3 solid sales during the year would cover those.
I am sure the more you own, the more will sel.

Not sure if my reasoning is correct....

Your assumption could be true.. more domains you have more chance to sell.. And it's not only about 4L.org it's true for any other type of liquid. Just only which extension has more potential to sell that could be the reason to choose.

 

[Prometheus]

-u cannot be sure to sell at least X per year. cause domaining has no guarantees.

I don't agree with this one. Maybe he will sell more than expected in 2016, but only 1 in 2017. As you said, there is no guarantee. But, we should talk with the terms of statistics since we have thousands of names. Mean is mean in long term.

-it is possible 4l.org with most potential are no longer left for reg. so at this stage of this "game" this could further decrease your sale chances. in other words, u canot assume in your equation that 4l.org available to reg when 90% of all of them were left to reg have same potential of sale as when say 20% of them are left to reg. logically, quality decreases with time in dn regging.

Agreed. But people went after that Chinese trend. I think there are still nice names over there.

Profitibility completely depends on the pricing, as @Federer said, it is a numbers game.

 

[alcy]

I don't agree with this one. Maybe he will sell more than expected in 2016, but only 1 in 2017. As you said, there is no guarantee. But, we should talk with the terms of statistics since we have thousands of names. Mean is mean in long term.

Agreed. But people went after that Chinese trend. I think there are still nice names over there.

Profitibility completely depends on the pricing, as @Federer said, it is a numbers game.

yes. I agree. it is about an average. so maybe what we cannot yet know for usre due to insufficient date from insufficient #people, is what is average is. u need some serious # data to establish averages that have meaning and reliability.

and yes I agree, a lot went after china trend! whcih is still not all dead btw..

what I tried to say is that imo the fact that all westerns without vowels are gone (last I checked) complicates quality. as those imo sell best.

 

[Prometheus]

We have time till November to collect data by sales and measure the profitibililty level of those assets. This way is better than speculation.

 

[Prometheus]

Some sales above $200:

soli.net, 200 USD, 2016-04-27, DropCatch
rrwg.net, 205 USD, 2016-04-25, GoDaddy
yiso.net, 1,200 USD, 2016-04-23, 4.CN
gicu.org, 4,500 USD, 2016-04-28, Sedo
bfcc.org, 525 USD, 2016-04-23, NameJet
cdma.org, 370 USD, 2016-04-21, NameJet

 

[Federer]

GICU.org interestingly ending up being purchased by a company based in Vietnam.

Is there a tool that can verify which LLLL.org are still available to register?

 

[Federer]

If I buy another 200 4-letter .ORG domains and price them all at $2,800 and sell 4 or 5 during the course of the year (as it’s a numbers game with those in most cases), is that ethically a bit wrong? (as the organisations could have picked them up for reg fee had I not purchased them and priced them at BIN)…

 

[Recons.Com]

Non-profits that cannot afford 2800$ have plenty other options to get another name, typically using 3 letter acronym and one full word.

 

[Prometheus]

Another sale:

abar.org, 1,500 USD, 2016-04-29, BuyDomains

 

[Federer]

I may just load up on another 200-300 4L.org
4-6 will sell to end users....