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Just a few days ago I sent the following email to Yoni Belousov, Vaughn Liley, and Jeff Gabriel of Nova Registry, the new owners of the .LINK extension;

"Yoni etal.....what a waste of time and money to have created a portfolio of 1,500 .LINK domains believing I could help make .LINK successful.

One of my greatest strengths are the people I've gotten to know through Linkedin, and a few of them had reached out to me because they own .LINK domains.

Marek Eckhaus from Prague owns Sex.link
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Jim Haung from Shanghai owns Free.link

Furthermore, a domain friend of mine Joe N. from Canada was able to help me get domains like; Bicycle.link, American.link and Dollar.link listed @ Dan, but to no avail in that I haven't received a single inquiry much less offer.

I guess you've heard me say, "If it's to BE, it's up to ME", but without some backing that isn't going to happen.

I consider myself sort of a .LINK walk on who could have been a star, but Nova Registry just doesn't see it that way......SAD!

Finally, i'm blind copying a pretty well respected industry leader that was quoted as saying, ".LINK is no worse than .XYZ", but personally I believe .LINK is far better than .xyz.

Unfortunately, we'll never know."


In addition i copied a few domain friends I made around the world, and here is the response Alessandro from a friend from Italy....you might note I've not heard anything back from anyone at Nova Registry;

Richard

There’s a lot of emotion in this industry, and it’s easy to get caught up on “one thing” … It is important that as investors we diversify our portfolios, own Names that make Sense !

There’s this idea that you should only invest in .com and 90% of “The Domain Industry Club“ will tell you the same thing over and over again like a broken record, BUT the truth is you should invest in good names ^ and understand that what we are all looking to accomplish takes time, effort, and determination ^

2,000,000,000 sites online, you cannot limit all of them to .com much less .net or 10 other extensions … the formation of new industries and new business’ continues to rise - and thus GOOD names become more valuable, I believe this to be true for both .com and combination keyword GTLD examples that match perfectly the left and right of the DOT

I was offered $25,000 for mortgage.loans in 2021 @ the ROTD auction with Monte and I was offered $11,000 for easy.credit at the recent ROTD 2023 auction w/ Monte, meanwhile TeamBank in Germany offered me $1000 even though they are a multi billion dollar company, I received a mysterious offer of $125,000 on DAN for e.credit and the buyer vanished, I had some guy in Monaco offer me 3.2 BTC when BTC was trading @ $55,000 so that he could develop e.credit into an online crypto casino … I bet he feels pretty dumb given where BTC is @ … what is my point, GOOD names receive some attention, and not all the time is that attention going to be “Execution” … In fact more times then not, you are going to run into people who will waste your time,

I have watched the Blue Man Group turn down owning blue.com … I’ve personally talked on the phone with the board of Smith & Wesson; while walking the streets of Venice at night … guess what, they didn’t buy sw.com and neither did Nvidia buy ai.com … I couldn’t sell 77.com to 77Bank in Japan, and Weight Watchers waited for my contract to expire to purchase ww.com … the domain industry is cruel, the priceless opportunity of selling BIG names is a rare thing, patience is the name of the game … Like golf, rare to hit a par much less a Hole In One … BUT damn it feels good when ya do !

1500 .link names, say 10% of that are true quality names Richard @ $1000 bare minimum, that’s $150,000, good $$$ to invest with at the moment. Outbound, outbound, outbound, even if 95% of those leads won’t contact you back …

There was a time when I allowed my emotions to play into the industry, ya just can’t do it, either it works or it doesn’t, and if someone doesn’t understand the value, there is no sense in trying to persuade them, this goes for all names …

And if you invest in GTLDs, focus on exact match keyword combinations,

free.link

direct.link

Instant.link

sex.link (shit, sex.xxx sold for $3M)

big.link

cash.link

soft.link

nice.link

Explain the value, build an audience, and people will then come to you … because believe it or not, there are people in the world with the same ideas as you …

So continue walking tall, put that Big Brain of yours to use, relinquish some of your grand names at a discount, and invest moving forward … if you have that BIG name, don’t sell it, you may want to, but don’t do it, you can put a large price tag on that one BIG name, but that’s it ^ focus on everything else, diversify, and move forward >>>

Best wishes !

Alessandro


Finally, while I still believe in the .LINK extension, without committed support from the Registry and it's owners I just decided to throw in the towel.......VERY SAD!!!

ps. thank you Alessandro(y)
 
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Actually, they do it after 15 days.

You 'rent' a domain for 1 year. Everything beyond that is up to the registrar.

You didn't pay for anything beyond that year. You have no right to demand an extended period of usage.

That's not BS, that's what you payed for and agreed upon.

You do however have a right to renew or transfer. This is common knowledge.

You own(ed) thousands of domains so it's highly unlikely you are not aware of these facts unless you don't have a clue about what you're doing.
At least Epic has a modicum of business ethics:xf.wink:
 
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Oh.....AbortBiden.(king):xf.wink:

That should be your mantra. Whenever you think you have another one of your brilliant ideas. Abort. Abort. Abort.
 
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As we turn Full-circle once again, What is the prognosis for our hair-brained friend Richard. We know that he'll have us believe that money/domain financing is not a problem, This may be true, so no prospect of ever curtailing the wishful thinking and imaginary partnerships that would embolden the internet into a new era.

Is there ever going to be a new, more sensical approach to his domain spending. I think we can rule that one out. Never shown any willingness to adopt the successful strategies of other more experienced domainers with similar financial outlays. Clearly a man locked into his own past, regarding business, enterprise and internet concepts.

I have the good fortune to live in a private retirement community. (gorgeous apartments and facilitated like a Hotel) Accepts residents from age 50 up which makes for a good mix of those with all their marbles in place to those that over time become real trench-hards in both their thinking and values. It's a joy to live here with many residents grandchildren playing in our extensive gardens each weekend. BBQ's, party nights (lots of booze) But boy you do need to stay aware of those that just can't encompass change or challenge to their own accepted way of thinking. I'm surprised that Richard should even seek our/others input when it's going to be totally ignored anyway. But I do see that here, where I live as well, Much easier for us to challenge over a messaging service than face to face I can assure you

Long may the money last Richard ;)
 
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That should be your mantra. Whenever you think you have another one of your brilliant ideas. Abort. Abort. Abort.
"brilliant ideas" have made me the man I am today. I've always been one to throw things at the wall to see what sticks, and in case you hadn't noticed, this thread is about aborting:xf.wink: .LINK
 
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As we turn Full-circle once again, What is the prognosis for our hair-brained friend Richard. We know that he'll have us believe that money/domain financing is not a problem, This may be true, so no prospect of ever curtailing the wishful thinking and imaginary partnerships that would embolden the internet into a new era.

Is there ever going to be a new, more sensical approach to his domain spending. I think we can rule that one out. Never shown any willingness to adopt the successful strategies of other more experienced domainers with similar financial outlays. Clearly a man locked into his own past, regarding business, enterprise and internet concepts.

I have the good fortune to live in a private retirement community. (gorgeous apartments and facilitated like a Hotel) Accepts residents from age 50 up which makes for a good mix of those with all their marbles in place to those that over time become real trench-hards in both their thinking and values. It's a joy to live here with many residents grandchildren playing in our extensive gardens each weekend. BBQ's, party nights (lots of booze) But boy you do need to stay aware of those that just can't encompass change or challenge to their own accepted way of thinking. I'm surprised that Richard should even seek our/others input when it's going to be totally ignored anyway. But I do see that here, where I live as well, Much easier for us to challenge over a messaging service than face to face I can assure you

Long may the money last Richard ;)
OMG Bailey.....you actually live in an "Old Folks Home":xf.eek: Your post actually inspired me to see if either OldFolksHome.com or MonetizeNames.com are available to register. As of this moment in time just one of these is available.....guess which one? If no one picks it up in a week or so I may add it to my .com portfolio.

Thanks for following me Bailey:xf.wink:
 
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I'm surprised that Richard should even seek our/others input when it's going to be totally ignored anyway.
He's never genuinely sought our input or advice. It was always about marketing his latest TLD of choice (.realty, .home, .online, .link), and trying to lure some poor bastard to partner with him. And by partnering, I mean doing all the work.

Richard is the (bad) idea guy, learning simple things like listing a domain for sale doesn't seem to be within his abilities.
 
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He's never genuinely sought our input or advice. It was always about marketing his latest TLD of choice (.realty, .home, .online, .link), and trying to lure some poor bastard to partner with him. And by partnering, I mean doing all the work.

Richard is the (bad) idea guy, learning simple things like listing a domain for sale doesn't seem to be within his abilities.
you forgot .golf....actually .golf was my first venture into the world of new gTLD's, and not unlike Paul Sathura former co-founder of Donuts i rarely saw a new gTLD i didn't like.

Surprisingly .golf has opened a lot of doors but I won't bore you with the details. I'm already into your head so much your brain might explode:wacky:
 
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Amazing! Congrats @ThatNameGuy :xf.cool:
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.homes – FAILED
.realty – FAILED
.online – FAILED
.link – FAILED

.horse next?
.horse is the joke domain to everyone except the one has owns race.horse
 
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.horse is the joke domain to everyone except the one has owns race.horse
Hey comeon no joke to me I sold one, buyer was quite happy with it!

Had the right combination, suppose it helped but also likely exactly what they were looking for.

Overall tho, don't bring a horse to the Indy.
 
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Hey comeon no joke to me I sold one, buyer was quite happy with it!

Had the right combination, suppose it helped but also likely exactly what they were looking for.

Overall tho, don't bring a horse to the Indy.
"Had the right combination" Must have been Race:xf.rolleyes:horse. What did you get for it?....twice what you paid for it:ROFL:

Tell me.....how are names like sex.link or hollywood.link (maybe it should be holly.wood:xf.cry:) NOT the right combination? Both "sex" and "hollywood" are mega Billion dollar industries.

I feel as though I've been mugged by realty.
 
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Not bad for a forum thread.

Too bad it doesn't lead to making any sales.

Brad
I guess it aint over Brad.....i haven't come to the fork in the road yet:xf.wink:
 
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Clearly a man locked into his own past, regarding business, enterprise and internet concepts.
Oh come on! How could you have missed Golf and his hole-in-ones?
 
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Oh come on! How could you have missed Golf and his hole-in-ones?
Glad you made "hole-in-ones" plural:xf.wink:......i do domains too in case you could use a little help:xf.love:
 
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"Had the right combination" Must have been Race:xf.rolleyes:horse. What did you get for it?....twice what you paid for it:ROFL:

Tell me.....how are names like sex.link or hollywood.link (maybe it should be holly.wood:xf.cry:) NOT the right combination? Both "sex" and "hollywood" are mega Billion dollar industries.

I feel as though I've been mugged by realty.
No it wasn't race(.)horse and sold for much more than twice what I registered it for but dot-horse isn't a worthwhile investment as a whole. I don't own anymore dot-horses, that was just one out of the two that I had at the time.

Names like the dot-links you set, they certainly are the right combination. The extension is what sucks, dot-link will never take off because its essence is sub-par for naming and branding. Even tho the combinations work! These are the nuances to pay attention to.
 
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Oh come on! How could you have missed Golf and his hole-in-ones?

“Holes in one”

You’re talking about many holes which were completed in one stroke. So if you were talking about more than one “king of France” you would refer to the “kings of France” instead of the “king of Frances”, because there have been many kings of one France.

“In one” is a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective to describe how the hole was scored. Similar constructions would be:

Bar of gold

Barrel of oil

Werewolf in London

This is why domainers have so many typo domains.
 
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“Holes in one”

You’re talking about many holes which were completed in one stroke. So if you were talking about more than one “king of France” you would refer to the “kings of France” instead of the “king of Frances”, because there have been many kings of one France.

“In one” is a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective to describe how the hole was scored. Similar constructions would be:

Bar of gold

Barrel of oil

Werewolf in London

This is why domainers have so many typo domains.
It's the little things that really matter and this good advicing.
 
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“Holes in one”

You’re talking about many holes which were completed in one stroke. So if you were talking about more than one “king of France” you would refer to the “kings of France” instead of the “king of Frances”, because there have been many kings of one France.

“In one” is a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective to describe how the hole was scored. Similar constructions would be:

Bar of gold

Barrel of oil

Werewolf in London

This is why domainers have so many typo domains.
My bad. I typed that out in a hurry. You are right
 
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I initially read that as REALITY, which was a great assertion :xf.wink:
Ironically it was suppose to be REALITY:xf.rolleyes:
No it wasn't race(.)horse and sold for much more than twice what I registered it for but dot-horse isn't a worthwhile investment as a whole. I don't own anymore dot-horses, that was just one out of the two that I had at the time.

Names like the dot-links you set, they certainly are the right combination. The extension is what sucks, dot-link will never take off because its essence is sub-par for naming and branding. Even tho the combinations work! These are the nuances to pay attention to.
lol....one mans "nuance" is another's treasure. I wasn't aware that "link" had an essence? Then again I'm just a lay domainer that believes .link is nothing more than a means to an end just like every other extension.

Thanks for your input HotKey but our nuances just aren't NSYNC:xf.rolleyes:
 
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“Holes in one”

You’re talking about many holes which were completed in one stroke. So if you were talking about more than one “king of France” you would refer to the “kings of France” instead of the “king of Frances”, because there have been many kings of one France.

“In one” is a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective to describe how the hole was scored. Similar constructions would be:

Bar of gold

Barrel of oil

Werewolf in London

This is why domainers have so many typo domains.
Good stuff Sir Berryhill....as a lay lawyer myself, i defer to the professional:xf.wink: Thanks.....seriously.
 
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That’s quite a towel.

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If it’s not too much to ask, if I send you a small list of mutual funds, could you throw your towel at them too?
 
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