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Just a few days ago I sent the following email to Yoni Belousov, Vaughn Liley, and Jeff Gabriel of Nova Registry, the new owners of the .LINK extension;

"Yoni etal.....what a waste of time and money to have created a portfolio of 1,500 .LINK domains believing I could help make .LINK successful.

One of my greatest strengths are the people I've gotten to know through Linkedin, and a few of them had reached out to me because they own .LINK domains.

Marek Eckhaus from Prague owns Sex.link
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Jim Haung from Shanghai owns Free.link

Furthermore, a domain friend of mine Joe N. from Canada was able to help me get domains like; Bicycle.link, American.link and Dollar.link listed @ Dan, but to no avail in that I haven't received a single inquiry much less offer.

I guess you've heard me say, "If it's to BE, it's up to ME", but without some backing that isn't going to happen.

I consider myself sort of a .LINK walk on who could have been a star, but Nova Registry just doesn't see it that way......SAD!

Finally, i'm blind copying a pretty well respected industry leader that was quoted as saying, ".LINK is no worse than .XYZ", but personally I believe .LINK is far better than .xyz.

Unfortunately, we'll never know."


In addition i copied a few domain friends I made around the world, and here is the response Alessandro from a friend from Italy....you might note I've not heard anything back from anyone at Nova Registry;

Richard

There’s a lot of emotion in this industry, and it’s easy to get caught up on “one thing” … It is important that as investors we diversify our portfolios, own Names that make Sense !

There’s this idea that you should only invest in .com and 90% of “The Domain Industry Club“ will tell you the same thing over and over again like a broken record, BUT the truth is you should invest in good names ^ and understand that what we are all looking to accomplish takes time, effort, and determination ^

2,000,000,000 sites online, you cannot limit all of them to .com much less .net or 10 other extensions … the formation of new industries and new business’ continues to rise - and thus GOOD names become more valuable, I believe this to be true for both .com and combination keyword GTLD examples that match perfectly the left and right of the DOT

I was offered $25,000 for mortgage.loans in 2021 @ the ROTD auction with Monte and I was offered $11,000 for easy.credit at the recent ROTD 2023 auction w/ Monte, meanwhile TeamBank in Germany offered me $1000 even though they are a multi billion dollar company, I received a mysterious offer of $125,000 on DAN for e.credit and the buyer vanished, I had some guy in Monaco offer me 3.2 BTC when BTC was trading @ $55,000 so that he could develop e.credit into an online crypto casino … I bet he feels pretty dumb given where BTC is @ … what is my point, GOOD names receive some attention, and not all the time is that attention going to be “Execution” … In fact more times then not, you are going to run into people who will waste your time,

I have watched the Blue Man Group turn down owning blue.com … I’ve personally talked on the phone with the board of Smith & Wesson; while walking the streets of Venice at night … guess what, they didn’t buy sw.com and neither did Nvidia buy ai.com … I couldn’t sell 77.com to 77Bank in Japan, and Weight Watchers waited for my contract to expire to purchase ww.com … the domain industry is cruel, the priceless opportunity of selling BIG names is a rare thing, patience is the name of the game … Like golf, rare to hit a par much less a Hole In One … BUT damn it feels good when ya do !

1500 .link names, say 10% of that are true quality names Richard @ $1000 bare minimum, that’s $150,000, good $$$ to invest with at the moment. Outbound, outbound, outbound, even if 95% of those leads won’t contact you back …

There was a time when I allowed my emotions to play into the industry, ya just can’t do it, either it works or it doesn’t, and if someone doesn’t understand the value, there is no sense in trying to persuade them, this goes for all names …

And if you invest in GTLDs, focus on exact match keyword combinations,

free.link

direct.link

Instant.link

sex.link (shit, sex.xxx sold for $3M)

big.link

cash.link

soft.link

nice.link

Explain the value, build an audience, and people will then come to you … because believe it or not, there are people in the world with the same ideas as you …

So continue walking tall, put that Big Brain of yours to use, relinquish some of your grand names at a discount, and invest moving forward … if you have that BIG name, don’t sell it, you may want to, but don’t do it, you can put a large price tag on that one BIG name, but that’s it ^ focus on everything else, diversify, and move forward >>>

Best wishes !

Alessandro


Finally, while I still believe in the .LINK extension, without committed support from the Registry and it's owners I just decided to throw in the towel.......VERY SAD!!!

ps. thank you Alessandro(y)
 
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Why do you suppose .LINK names that were listed @ Dan.com and still registered @ NameSilo get this message when a potential buyer attempts to search the domain?

Warning: Visiting this site may harm your computer!​

At birthday.link

You're smarter than me Branding, why do you think this is?

Because you're visiting through an unencrypted connection.
 
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Because you're visiting through an unencrypted connection.
How is it that it worked fine just two weeks ago, but not now? Inquiring minds would like to know:xf.cry:
 
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Getting back "on topic", what do you think Vaughn Liley, General Manager of Nova Registry aka .LINK meant by;

"We ❤️ innovation & partnerships?"

Nick.....what do you think he meant? Anyone:xf.wink:
I couldn't care less what he meant. But I do know that .link was and is crap. We tried to tell you this innumerable times but you just wouldn't listen. Like a beginner with ear muffs.
 
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So Nick....i see you're working for Dynadot now or is it Nova Registry:xf.rolleyes: Whatever happened to your GIG with Dominion and Jim Schrand?

I work for neither Dynadot nor Nova Registry. Jim sold DD and both he and DE are out of the domain industry.

Finally, maybe you can answer why this message comes up

Working for me. But, as someone mentioned, the lander they're using is not using SSL.

Nick.....what do you think he meant? Anyone

Other than what he literally wrote, and they like to work with registrar partners who are willing to invest money and tech into their domains, I'm unsure if there is any sort of alternative meaning.
 
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How is it that it worked fine just two weeks ago, but not now? Inquiring minds would like to know:xf.cry:

Most probably because you were using dan landers at the time.
 
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Most probably because you were using dan landers at the time.
I never stopped using Dan landers, so "most probably" is not the answer. Why do you suppose Nova Registries DUM count is down over 10,000 names in the last few weeks? Is .LINK in crisis mode?
 
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I never stopped using Dan landers, so "most probably" is not the answer

It's worse. You let it expire:
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Why do you suppose Nova Registries DUM count is down over 10,000 names in the last few weeks? Is .LINK in crisis mode?
Not at all.
 
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You don't need a tech guy Richard. Just need to read up on some basic domain related knowledge.
 
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I work for neither Dynadot nor Nova Registry. Jim sold DD and both he and DE are out of the domain industry.



Working for me. But, as someone mentioned, the lander they're using is not using SSL.



Other than what he literally wrote, and they like to work with registrar partners who are willing to invest money and tech into their domains, I'm unsure if there is any sort of alternative meaning.
Thanks for shooting straight.....i guess you're here because of your consulting agreement with Dynadot and/or Nova Registry.

Why do you suppose Dan may have stopped using SSL?

Finally, i presume you know Vaughn Liley, so why do you suppose he was trying to discourage me from registering anymore .LINK domains before he had a chance to reprice everything?

Again, i do appreciate you shooting straight, but that doesn't change my opinion about the corrupt nature of this entire industry.
 
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Thanks for shooting straight.....i guess you're here because of your consulting agreement with Dynadot and/or Nova Registry.
What?
Why do you suppose Dan may have stopped using SSL?

As someone else mentioned, you let the domain expire.
Finally, i presume you know Vaughn Liley, so why do you suppose he was trying to discourage me from registering anymore .LINK domains before he had a chance to reprice everything?

I know him from when I worked at Uni, yes. I can’t speculate on his reasoning for that or anything else - I have no clue.
Again, i do appreciate you shooting straight, but that doesn't change my opinion about the corrupt nature of this entire industry.

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"It is pretty unreasonable to expect the registry to help build your marketplace."

Oh, i don't think so. Like any "walk on" of an NFL team, the management will provide all sorts of things for you "if" you make the team.

But you’re not a walk on. That was only in your head. You turned up unannounced to the stadium and were escorted away by security.

There are plenty of tools available for you to build a marketplace without the help of a technical person let alone a registry.
 
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What?


As someone else mentioned, you let the domain expire.


I know him from when I worked at Uni, yes. I can’t speculate on his reasoning for that or anything else - I have no clue.


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Bicycle.link was in what NameSilo considers their "Grace Period", so it hadn't officially expired. It reminds me of rental agreements and/or mortgage agreements that if they were (1) day late they'd kick you out or foreclose. This use to happen many years ago, but no more.

You may recall Jeff Gabriel, CEO at Saw.com. He had me believing that Vaughn was some sort of Domain God, but I din't think so from the start. He's been able to put a couple simple agreements together like the one with Dynadot, but when I told him I had a high level connection at Linkedin, he told me he was already working with them on something:xf.rolleyes: I believe it was just his way of getting me off the .LINK trail......oh, did I say TRUST in this industry is non existent:xf.eek:

Thanks again!
 
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But you’re not a walk on. That was only in your head. You turned up unannounced to the stadium and were escorted away by security.

There are plenty of tools available for you to build a marketplace without the help of a technical person let alone a registry.
Sure, and I guess I could have developed all the software needed to successfully run AcSel.org one of the largest medical billing businesses in the mid Atlantic......what are you smoking?
 
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Sure, and I guess I could have developed all the software needed to successfully run AcSel.org one of the largest medical billing businesses in the mid Atlantic......what are you smoking?
I’m talking about a domain marketplace.

And weed.
 
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sooo

throwing in the towel, or not

This is is paramount to the building blocks of future DN investing
 
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I’m talking about a domain marketplace.

And weed.
I may be capable of it Kyle, but I just don't have the time. At 75 years young I've got more on my plate than you'll probably ever have. When I was your age (whatever that is) I no more had the time or desire to attempt to influence a senior citizen like myself.

With regards to "weed", that's what we called it back in the sixties long before the internet was invented.
 
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sooo

throwing in the towel, or not

This is is paramount to the building blocks of future DN investing
HotKey....i'm only throwing in the towel for my .LINK domains due to the nature of the BEAST! I still have quite a few Premium .link names that don't expire 'til the end of March. My golf podcast, political consulting, single malt whisky and outbound domain marketing are demanding more of my time.

Life truly doesn't get much better:xf.wink:
 
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What?


As someone else mentioned, you let the domain expire.


I know him from when I worked at Uni, yes. I can’t speculate on his reasoning for that or anything else - I have no clue.


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Nick, thanks for accepting my invite to connect on Linkedin. Now this may not mean a lot to you, but Go Daddy considers "link" to be a high value "keyword" that it values @ $2,250.

Yes, i did let bicyclye.link expire as of 06/23/2023, but NameSilo allows a "grace period" where i can renew it for reg fee of $116 up to 07/23/2023. I don't intend to, but the fact remains when a potential buyer tries to access it they can't. I don't know who's responsible for this, but I'm guessing it's Dan.

I own dozens more decent premium .link domains that don't expire 'til next March, but unless I get/see a little luv from the boys @ Nova Registry I'm reluctant to renew any of my names.

Also....check your Linkedin messages when you get a chance. Thanks
 
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It reminds me of rental agreements and/or mortgage agreements that if they were (1) day late they'd kick you out or foreclose. This use to happen many years ago, but no more.

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That's almost a month late Richard.
 
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That's almost a month late Richard.
As I've said, regardless of the 30 day "grace period" offered by most registries, this is Bull Sh*t! Maybe you'll understand now why I'm throwing in the towel:xf.rolleyes:

Not even Epic does this to you:unsure:
 
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As I've said, regardless of the 30 day "grace period" offered by most registries, this is Bull Sh*t! Maybe you'll understand now why I'm throwing in the towel:xf.rolleyes:

Not even Epic does this to you:unsure:

Actually, they do it after 15 days.

You 'rent' a domain for 1 year. Everything beyond that is up to the registrar.

You didn't pay for anything beyond that year. You have no right to demand an extended period of usage.

That's not BS, that's what you payed for and agreed upon.

You do however have a right to renew or transfer. This is common knowledge.

You own(ed) thousands of domains so it's highly unlikely you are not aware of these facts unless you don't have a clue about what you're doing.
 
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iow, don't play the victim here and talk crap, blame dan, Namesilo or whoever when it's obvious YOU neglected to do your part as a registrant.
 
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I think its time for a care giver or custodian or something here. Reminds me of Joe Biden :ROFL:
 
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You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
 
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