LH.com Lost !

[Pred]

Reverse hijacking is on the increase guys.
LH.com has just been lost by elequa.

Feel bad for him as this is a terrible decision by wipo imho and it raises questions about their integrity and conduct imo

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[Mike]

Reading the pdf, it's painfully clear that the Lufthansa has mainly succeeded because they've managed to throw their heavy weight around. If a corporation doesn't know its own history, maybe they have a bigger problem than reverse high jacking a DN that doesn't pertain to them in the first place.
Franky, even though aviation has always been a huge interest in my life, i wouldn't have made the connection to Lufthansa if someone had asked me "What does LH stand for?" without mentioning anything aviation related.
If this decision should stand after the trial, what's going to prevent the next company that can/could be abbreviated as "LH" to come after the domain?
At USPTO.gov i found 87 Records referring to TMs of "LH", none of them is referring to Lufthansa upon first glance. (i may have missed it though as i didn't go through each and every one).
This is just a huge mess, with a decision gone completely wrong and consequences that will, once again shed a bad light on domainers as the general public will see this is as "there's an internet nobody that's trying to hurt a reputable airline".

M.

 

[gazzip]

If I were elequa I would get all my oil buddies together and buy the company, fire everyone, dissect it and park the planes in my backyard before I gave up the name.

:lol: LMAO - that would sort em out !!



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Whats next ? Descendants of the creators of the English Language will come after all English domains ? .

yeah. that'll be me, look out !! :D


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[PROXUS]

LH is not a LV like in Louis Vuitton case where LV is a part of branding for decades.

it is good that this case is going before jury.

 

[DNabc]

This is an important thread for the future of all domainers. I try to develop all my domains, even if it takes a while. Loosing a domain because there is an uncertainty?
Not good...

 

[Corey]

interesting read

 

[Charley]

So what is the update now, did he win back the domain ?

 

[estibot.com]

How fast is the American Judiciary system?? I wasn't expecting anything to happen before 2009...

Smart of them to try this in New York...they are probably hoping to get a Jewish judge, who won't be awfully pleased with the Nazi references in Lufthansa's original complaint....man, what where they thinking??

 

[Rob J]

So what is the update now, did he win back the domain ?

The wheels of justice turn slowly. I wouldn't be surprised if this drags on for years.

 

[Idees]

That's horrible!

 

[IAmAllanShore]

The judge in this case:
http://www.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=1226

A little more info on the judge:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/28/business/28kpmg.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/MI-AI404_WKAPLA_20060804203325.jpg
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115473921388527666.html?mod=home_law_more_news

Started back on 3/17 - notice of appearance for Lufthansa was only at the end of last week.

Seems to me that they have put a few too many of their eggs in the "1928 vs. Post WWII" basket, as it seems a little too shifty of an argument to base the entire COA on, but I wish them the best :tu:

-Allan :gl:

 

[estibot.com]

Well, it seems has just the right kind of expertise for this (from the Wall Street Journal article Allan mentioned):

Judge Kaplan, 61 years old, was born in Staten Island and graduated from the University of Rochester and Harvard Law School. He clerked for the late First Circuit Judge Edward McEntee before joining Paul Weiss in 1970. He made partner in 1977, specializing in antitrust and intellectual property cases. In 1994, President Clinton nominated him to the federal bench.

Nowhere are federal prosecutors feeling the heat more than in the lower Manhattan courtroom of U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.

"He's not only a hot bench, he's on fire,"

 

[Charley]

I wouldn't be surprised if this drags on for years.

That's not nice to hear.

 

[Idees]

Well heres a ridiculous idea I thought of, but it makes some sense.

The Judge or someone else with power in this case was probably paid by Lufthansa.

Here were their choices:

1) Lufthansa pays $1 million for the domain
or
2) Lufthansa pays of $100,000 in bribes

Did they choose #2?

 

[Rob J]

Well heres a ridiculous idea I thought of, but it makes some sense.

The Judge or someone else with power in this case was probably paid by Lufthansa.

Here were their choices:

1) Lufthansa pays $1 million for the domain
or
2) Lufthansa pays of $100,000 in bribes

Did they choose #2?

No, they've tried for years to buy the domain (presumably for $1m+) but it just wasn't for sale at any price.

 

[Idees]

So that's more of a reason to choose #2

it just wasn't for sale at any price.

 

[Charley]

No, they've tried for years to buy the domain (presumably for $1m+) but it just wasn't for sale at any price.

It is a one million name, agreed.

FMA didn't develop it, why did they refuse an offer?

 

[sheaujye]

feel sorry for him, at least a million fly away...

 

[moped]

Takes us back to the bad old days.

 

[Charley]

Takes us back to the bad old days.

You mean the dot com bust :D

 

[dax44]

a disgrace, plus lufthansa is one word in german anyway .. so is represented by LH no more than LF or LT

i would love to see this one go to court

Wipo more like Wimpo