.tv Let's put our $$$ where our mouth is!!!

[Vito]

Ok,
I have read almost every .tv thread here in the last few months.
I have contributed to a few.
I look up to, and respect many of the Posts I have read from everyone in .tv land...
BUT, The Drama is insane...lol
We all have the same common goal.
Invest in .tv.
Promote .tv.
Develop .tv
and make $$$!!!

My simple solution...
Can we all Post our .tv's and help each other out,
by starting auctions off for each other?
Whats the worst that can happen?
We end up with another members .tv that could only enhance our portfolio's!
Not a problem at all.
We promote each other, and kick off an auction as a group
within a group.
There is the best thing we could all do for each other!

Does that make sense?
or am I way off base here? LOL

 

[localexperts]

Sure I understand the need to trim down. I'm going to let FortLauderdale.TV go for free b/c I have too many. But I think you focus on your strength (best regs), not your weakness (poor regs). Sometime, cutting the bad is best for the good.

 

[Vito]

ok here is link:

www.da.tv

the owner has recently begun posting in .tv again and i dont know much about this site...

flippers in .tv will get killed, i got rid of my trash and now for the most part im holding names and im in this for the long term.

i like your ideas but in reality and the worldwide recession worries were all facing the timing is not the best..

yes i would sell couple more so so names but not expecting much. hard to compete against a sedo even though sedo dosent really care for .tv in general and you have other auction sites up...

our best hope is to work with da.tv and get that model formed, promotion, some our names through there and see what the owner says on this idea and how it will be done.

j

Thanx for that link.
We should find the best of the best .tv promotions method,
and go 110%!
My main goal is to trim down quickly,
then develop.
But I dont want to sell some of my .tv's on the boards here for $1.00-$5.00, especially if another .tv forum member would kick off an auction, then maybe (my Hope) someone else would see it, other than the 50 or so .tv members here at NP. I would do the same for people here.
I bought cliches from Jimbo (I think), only $1.00!!!
Thats ridiculous.
If that name were on a major auction house for a $60.00 start who knows how much it could have gone for???
I have seen some insane bidding wars at TDNAM for some mediocre .tv's.
That could have been mine, or yours!
lol
Just my crazy idea!!!

 

[jeffoverman]

just from my view points...take it for what its worth.

1. list your names here and test it...(not much moving but try)
2. list for offers only in .tv market place and in thread
3. show us what you have and expiration dates
4. hopefully some will move
5. worse case-they dont move..take a break for a few days

2nd option

try and list everything on on all the auction sites like sedo..

3rd option

1. list names again and do an auction starting at 1.00
2. take your losses and learn from this..(people like talking failures here and learn from things but thats what i did- i sold my trash and most of the names are gone for 1.00, 2.00 or even 3.00 each)
3. regroup, see your godaddy account down a few names only and only on 1 page vs 8 pages of domains. after i sold most -even though taking hits is ugly, you learn from things and move forward. i actually felt good at the end of things and reflecting on things when i can see 55 names in my godaddy account now.

reading things by you, some of the things reminded of me when i first came into .tv.... if you chat with the big league .tv domainers(no names mentioned since i wont put anyone on the spot) you will see a good portion of them grabbed some crazy names back in 2000, or first came into .tv....when i saw some names by the best .tv domainers here, values that are mid xx, xxx on one of there names, it makes you smile and say hey-i am glad im not the only buying junk and even the big players bought junk. and now look at them now-huge names, huge sales, huge everything.

point im getting at is this... da.tv is our only hope for time being for a.tv platform and developed site. get rid of your names, trim down and keep your names you either see making money with a development or develope a name you have passion on. say for example you love cooking-you keep a cooking name and do a wordpress theme on it, draw some videos, write some content and watch some clicks and affilate sales do ok. sure it may not be the greatest use for .tv vs a customized site that is flashy and it shows its not a template. sometimes basic works just fine as we been discussing recently.

good luck dot stop and hope things work well...love your excitment for .tv and it shows. i am sensing a good portion of the active people on the board, have trimmed down there names and concentrating on there next phase which is developing things and how to make cash.

cheers,

j

 

[MicroGuy]

We should all help each other out, and invest in each others .tv's.

Just helpin each other towards a more Unified goal!

I'm with you dude. Let's do this thang............. :hearts:

 

[Vito]

Thanx to LocalExperts and Snoop for your Posts.
I appreciate all of your insights, suggestions, advice, etc.

Jeff,
Awesome Post!
I have to come to THAT realization.
That yes, I have to get rid of some...lets just say...
some of my less desirable names.
Hard facts to swallow, considering I will lose some $$$.
I am not ready to admit that some of my domains are crap!
lol
I will definitely take your advice and turn my 12 pages
of domains into 1!!!
I have lost control, management, etc.
You have some great points.
I will definitely take your advice and start listing a bunch.

and MicroGuy,
You Friggen Rock!
You and I will start this little group of you and I promoting each others domains,
and 1 by 1...
"they will come"!
lol
Thanx alot!

 

[Len]

As a domainer this has me interested....... :blink:
I can see the logic in making an opening bid for a domain I am interested in and wouldn't mind owning in exchange for a reciprocal offer.

Sounds like a win-win to me and also exposes the domain to other potential buyers.

 

[discovernow]

Ok,
I have read almost every .tv thread here in the last few months.
I have contributed to a few.
I look up to, and respect many of the Posts I have read from everyone in .tv land...
BUT, The Drama is insane...lol
We all have the same common goal.
Invest in .tv.
Promote .tv.
Develop .tv
and make $$$!!!

My simple solution...
Can we all Post our .tv's and help each other out,
by starting auctions off for each other?
Whats the worst that can happen?
We end up with another members .tv that could only enhance our portfolio's!
Not a problem at all.
We promote each other, and kick off an auction as a group
within a group.
There is the best thing we could all do for each other!

Does that make sense?
or am I way off base here? LOL

Anybody that takes action is great for .tv. What might of not worked in the past, might work today, or might work in the future. I have many top .tv and will only develop 10% of them and that has always been the plan. 90% are to resale in the future and I am confident my return on investment will work out well that way.

 

[Vito]

As a domainer this has me interested....... :blink:
I can see the logic in making an opening bid for a domain I am interested in and wouldn't mind owning in exchange for a reciprocal offer.

Sounds like a win-win to me and also exposes the domain to other potential buyers.

Len, You are a big name here at NP in .tv land.
Thanks for YOUR interest!
I hope to be able to help each other out real soon.

Anybody that takes action is great for .tv. What might of not worked in the past, might work today, or might work in the future. I have many top .tv and will only develop 10% of them and that has always been the plan. 90% are to resale in the future and I am confident my return on investment will work out well that way.

DiscoverNow,
Thanks for YOUR interest also!
I know you have many .tv's that I would love to add to my collection also.
I like your plan.
I think that is about where I am at also...
10% that I would love to develop,
and the other 90% for resale only.

Of course MY problem is...
I need to gain some $$$ first before development,
since I'm probably going to have to pay someone to help me, as I know nothing about development yet.

So, in saying that...
I am going to go list about 10-20 of my .tv's over at Sedo.
I will bring back the links, here to this thread.
I know all of my .tv's aren't the best,
but I do know I have some great .tv's that would definitely compliment someones .tv portfolio.
Even though the main goal is not just to trade .tv's...
but rather get them to auction, and bring some HUGE
attention to them, then hopefully the right person will come along and bid much higher than the initial bid.

Earlier in this thread LocalExperts brought up an important issue though.
He added about 10 of his own names, and they were all in the $xx,xxx range.
Well, I wouldn't be able to help him out if he had say...
a $1000.00 start bid. At least until I have some of my own $$$ coming in.

So, just for a start, just to get the ball rolling...
I will start with domains that I am willing to start off with a $60.00 bid. Yes I know I have some that are worth $x,xxx, but if I choose to offer them with a $60.00 bid then it would be ME having the faith, that they would fetch a much higher dollar value. If not, then it's my loss.
If it was a domain that I was in love with, then I will not add it to my list of domains that I am offering.
But thats on me, as we all think we have THE BEST OF THE BEST domains...lol

At a later date maybe rthere could be start bid increments of...say...$100.00, $250.00, $500.00, $1000.00, etc.
We can cross that bridge when we get there.
I just want to start, and simple seems best for a start.

There IS something about seeing others domains,
and knowing we would be helping each other out.
I would be very happy to bid on a domain from a member here, knowing that that member would do the same for me. In the meantime, we get a shot that...who knows...
could be much more attractive to someone on the other end of a computer in a far off land, looking for that exact niche, that exact keyword, that exact video centric .tv extension!

I'll be back,
Thanx All!

 

[Len]

Anybody that takes action is great for .tv. What might of not worked in the past, might work today, or might work in the future. I have many top .tv and will only develop 10% of them and that has always been the plan. 90% are to resale in the future and I am confident my return on investment will work out well that way.

I agree, buyers are few and far between during this financial crunch. We have to be flexible in our thinking as regards to how we are going to get domains out there for all to see.

 

[Vito]

Here is some GREAT banter/ideas from a reputable NamePros .tv member and I,
through Private Messaging...


NP Member:
Hi,

I think you should find out how many would be interested in this before you post your domains.
If we could get a circle of .tver's who would be willing to give this a try then we could collectively work some form of rotation out that is fair to both bidder and seller.

IMO publishing our domains on the forum will either create a free for all or at the other extreme, no bids.

For this to work it has to be done in rotation or there will be a rapid loss of interest from those who get left out.

I would also suggest that the initial bid is open to anyone in the group. The group would have a choice of domains from the sellers list to bid on and would have 24hrs to place a bid. If no bid was received within 24hrs then the person who had the last sale through the group, would be obliged to make a bid. (Hope you are still with me?)

This would ensure that everything is equal and that no one is losing much if they buy or sell for the min bid.

Names should be decent quality......no 3or4 worders or mis-spellings or trademarks etc.

Hope I didn't go on too long but just a few ideas to chew over.


Me:
I agree with you on the decent quality domains of course...
But hear me out on this...
We DO Post them in the thread...
I add 10 in there.
You come along in the thread and say,
Hey I like that domain of yours, I want to bid on one of yours...
Here are mine.
Please choose one of mine if you like any...
I say wow, I like "that" one and I will kick that off!!!
Then people actually see the interaction, and want to be a part of it, because everything is out in the open.
Kindof puts a sense of loyalty, or lets say obligation to the other person to bid back to the other person, JUST to start the first few off...
Then of course more will join in, and then of course a group, with a rotation will ensue.
Of course we would THEN have to like each others names...
but Im just saying for now, Im not sure if you would bid on mine or vice versa. With the open forum, we will see where each other is coming from. He likes Geos, She likes music, etc...
Just my thought???

NP Member:
There are a few problems I see with your idea.

It will, or could, turn into a free for all where some are going to do well (possibly) and others are going to get no bids.

There is also the fact, and I have come across this many times, that a lot of people don't like the whole world to know what type of domains they are purchasing. The "Open" system is too open for many that is one of the failings of the current marketplace forum.

I believe there are a lot more on this forum than we think that would be interested in this if it was kept as circle of .tver's operating via pm.

I fear that the general visitors to an open forum on this may get the impression that the bids are the real value of the domains are rather than an initial kick start to an auction. This could be detrimental to our cause IMO.

Me:
Ahhhh,
OK, I see some of your concerns.
So, how about this...
we DO operate in IM...
We do pick from each others lists...
Then when we do pick one from each others list to kick off, we pick a Very good time lets say...3pm-ish Eastern time, or whatever...as to not let the auction end at some insane time like 3 am Sun. morning...lol
We pick a week day when most people are on...
Then what doo you think about Posting the name we picked to bid on from one member to the other "in the thread"
Just to let people see that we are doing the best we can to Promote, and help the whole .tv cause out???
You know?
At least to show that there was a name kicked off from you to me, and vice versa...
Just that domain that we picked from each other than???
What do you think?


NP Member:
I think first off would be to create a thread asking interested parties to contact via pm. Once a circle has been established a pm would be sent to each member listing all the members in the group.

A sytem should then be employed as to what order we go in......I would suggest alphabetical would be acceptable practice. We would all have to reveal our first names for this....No forum username (unless it is your first name).

Example; Adam is first....sends a list of all his domains he is willing to start an auction at $60 to everyone in the group. For the first 24hrs anyone can start an auction if there is something they like...If no bids in first 24hrs then next in line (eg BOB) is obliged to pick a domain from the list and bid.

Next Bob releases his list and the above process kicks in. If no bids in 24hrs, Charlie is obliged to pick one and bid etc, etc.

Bids should only be made between 3:00PM and 6:00PM EST on a weekday to maximize potential bidders.

Once a domain is on auction the seller can promote the auction however they deem fit, NP's, DNF, guess the end price competitions etc.

Just a few ideas that could be employed and tweaked as we go along.


Me:
I have already gotten some pms from interested members.
I guess the thing is...We would have to like each others names.
So, I like the idea that bidder # 1 gets a chance then bidder #2 gets a chance if bidder #1 didnt like anything from my domains...but what about the sense of...
You picked mine, so of course I would have the obligation to pick yours first?
I guess thats why I think it would be nice to showcase a few of each of ours...
Heres my 10....do you like any, Well if you do, then I want to try to pick one of YOURS...kindof a "scratch your back, you scratch mine" deal.
But lets just say there is 5 of us...
which there is already.
We all throw in 5, 10 domains whatever.
Then we dont have to wait days for each to get one domain kicked off.
Lets say 24 hours a piece for 3 members to pass. Thats 3 days shot.
We have a pool...
Here are 50 names all with our names attached to them.
I want 1 from this guy.
I let him know, He then tries to find one of mine...
Yes, kindof a free for all, (within our group). But with the understanding that I AM going to bid on your domain1, and you will bid on my domain2 before we do place that initial bid. Now if it is agreed on, and the group knows this...then tthere comes in the loyalty, no backing out from your word, or that would defeat the purpose.
How does that sound?


NP Member:
The reasoning behind my example is that everyone will get a sale regardless. There is no obligation for the seller to buy from the person they sold to.....That would fall to the next person in line if no one else during the initial release period was interested.

There would not be days of waiting once it get's going. After the initial 24hr free for all the next person in line could release his available domains into the 24hr free for all period. As long as it was within the set out structure then domains could be sent to sedo on a daily basis.

I don't see anyone renaging.......what's $60 these days?? I pay more than that to put domains in Sedo's featured domains and rarely get a sale!

This way, once everyone has had a turn, even if there are no other bidders, we are each only going to be $10 out of pocket......That itself is worth the excitement of an auction in my opinion.


Me:
Makes sense!
This has been a great conversation.
Would you mind if I Post this entire conversation in my thread?
I will not include your name at all, if you wanted.
I just like the ideas, and banter back n forth, and would love to hear others comment on our conversation!
I repped you since you have been such a great help!
Let me know if I can Post it...
Thanx Alot!


NP Member:
You can post it but I would appreciate you leaving out my name.


Me:
You Got it!
Thanx!
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Any comments/suggestions/ideas/or just if you would be interested in this...(there are 5 members already interested)
Please Post your thoughts.

I am Very serious about this idea.
I dont know how it is going to happen but it will!
I am VERY open minded, and like to hear others thoughts as well, but I just dont want to take weeks trying to create the perfect system.
Renewals come up FAST!
Plus...I am impatient...lol

I like the idea of simplicity, as a start.
But I just want SOME sort-of start.

I really think the sense of attaching a person/friend/group member to a domain you are bidding on, helps out with wanting to get that persons domain into the limelight, and them/yours! This takes away the anonymous face, creates more of a community/group/friendship...all with the same goal.
Promoting the .tv extension we all have faith in!

Thanx Alot!