.tv Let's get a few things straight

[equity78]

First off I am tired of the nonsense from all sides about what goes on and is said not said.

This forum was the first extension specific forum on any domain forum on the net.

One of the rules, stated from the beginning was "If you do not like .tv great, place your dislike in the Domain Discussion section of the forum. This forum is for like minded individuals who do like this extension."

Now of course criticism is allowed, no one has criticized Verisign and Demand Media more than I. I have also blogged about them on a blog that gets 186 uniques a day. I have called them, I spent one Christmas weekend calling for FLEAKING when he got screwed.

So no one needs to tell me about negativity.

There is a difference in stating facts, and or disappointment, Virtuali thread I stickied because Greg asked for it, it is a thread that I think is fine even though I got 4 pms yelling at me for why it was stickied.

What is not allowed here,

Posting just to post, I hate .tv you should stick to .com. I look at this as a hetero male going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like men.

Raining on someones parade, while others are congratulating someone on a sale, someone posting, "that's all that price sucks" or the .com would command much more." Really no kidding the .com would get more than .tv.

Repeating the same thing over and over, the premium pricing issue has been talked about a million times, use the search function and read. You don't like premium pricing great its not going away. We have discussed this many ways, I have always told new people never look at anything over $1000 premium anything over IMO is crazy, others disagre that's fine, debate it.

People making self serving statements talking about Tuvalu, compared to Verisign is also ridiculous, you want to help TUVALU? stop driving an suv, and become more "green" in your lifestyle. .tv domains are the least of Tuvalu's problems.

People here are not stupid and read through some of the passive-aggressive posts. Ronnie put in his signature line what I have asked since day one "If you do not like .tv why are you here ?" Some people in here complaining then pm me and tell me they own no .tv. Its like me calling complaining about COMCAST and I use Verizon.

I have spent more time than anyone writing and educating people on .tv, you don't like .tv that's fine, you want to learn great, you do not like DEMAND MEDIA neither do I, but stop saying the same thing over and over and over.




.tv marketplace

Do not make comments in sales threads, it is clearly written but people still want to say "oh great name" or I have a similar name in .net. Send a pm, give them rep and state great name, or buy the great name.



Many over the last month have expressed their displeasure and do not participate anymore, some of these people have contributed much more than the trolls and those with DEMAND MEDIA A D D.

As the forum comes up on three years I am not sure if it moving forward anymore.

Again IMO

 

[jeffoverman]

i agree with all the things you had said ray.... i know i am not the board as much for a few of those reasons...

i hope i didnt offend anyone my questions in yesterdays thread and questions...

i am seeing more trolls around here and ronnie i feel has the right to say what he wants on his signature...its so true and 100 percent true..

i love the forum and addicted to .tv and have learned a lot.... thanks in ray in being the moderator and forming the first .tv forum....

i am sure we will all come together, embrace each others goals, encourage each other, give feedback... so many great members here and cant list everyone but mrdomainman, stoneroses, johntv, discovernow, searchingtv, ronne, dottie, and some newer up and coming members here.. again, the list of key members make things great here and sorry to have not listed everyone...

there surly is confusion on the enom renewing factor and i been invovled in .tv for a year now and learned a lot from last night which shocked me..

j

 

[virtuali]

Agreed EQ. My post was just to enlighten others to an issue I was having and to maybe save others some greif if they were on the same boat as myself. That is now done and over with and I would like to see others here prosper on the board with the knowledge (good or bad) about the extension and enom/verisign. There are many great things about .TV and you just have to be savy and educated enough to utilized them, and that is what this forum is about. Knowledge.

Good luck to you guys and I hope we do not have to endeavor into the dark side of things much more.

Cheers.

 

[MicroGuy]

Have you considered that most of the people that are bitching are beginning to realize that they made some very bad business decisions? I'm sure the guy that paid $10,000 for VACATIONS.TV only to let it drop is pissed.

I don't believe in sugar coating the truth to inflate the value of a TLD regardless of how much I love .TV. From your tone, it sounds like you're giving into those with that intention. That's too bad.

If the new rule is that we can't say anything repetitive about Demand Media, then I guess the new visitors that come along will just have to do some digging into the archives to find out the truth. Again unfortunate.

 

[equity78]

Really greg is that how you read that, that's unfortunate

I am not giving into anything and no people are not bitching about that. Show me the posts where people who actually have spent money and dropped it are bitching?

The guy that bought Vacations made a decision that was of his own free will, Allthings.tv talked about regging Fast.tv for $10,000 a year he dropped $20,000 he did not bitch.

Newbies have plenty of stickies and unlike some people actually use the search button.

Lastly Greg if I was giving into whoever you are talking about, you would probably be banned as I get complaints every other day about your posts. I don't mind them and I have given you plenty of info, but others do but I am not giving in.

BUT NO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO POST EVERYDAY DEMAND MEDIA SUCKS, EVERYONE HERE ALREADY KNOWS THAT.

OH and RULE #6 was here since day 1 nothing new

 

[domainacrobat]

Aye!

Nonsensical, selfserving, grumbling posts are rampant. In case anyone has noticed, I rarely post anymore because the amount of nonsense that is going around these days. Its like a dog chasing its tail, round and round we go. In fact I know a few other previously prominent members of the .TV forum who just don't even bother to poke their head in here anymore because of the nonsense. .TV or Demand media is not responsible for your successes or failures. Nuff said.

 

[johntv]

Have you considered that most of the people that are bitching are beginning to realize that they made some very bad business decisions? I'm sure the guy that paid $10,000 for VACATIONS.TV only to let it drop is pissed.

Hi Microguy, sorry, I don't agree. It's a gamble to reg high renewal premium names and anyone doing that is fully aware of the renewal and the risks. I also took a gamble with a $10k renewal, e.tv, and if I ever need to drop it, that's very unfortune for me, but the only person I could be pissed with would be myself and there is really no one else to blame.

 

[equity78]

Great Point John and people like you who have put $10,000 into a premium have never come into the forum and bitched, not you, not antonis, not Mr Rhee, not Allthings.tv, not michaeldotcom, No one who has put the big money down has ever come in and bitched.

Secondly what would they bitch about, they regged a name for $10,000 with no plan ? Well for the newbies I have written since 2005 do not spend more than $500 to $1000 unless you have a plan for the domain. So people talking there have not done their homework.

The premium system has been discussed forever, how it came about, READ the .TV from soup to nuts thread, or the PREMIUMS, BS and TROLLS thread or many other premium pricing threads.

 

[TheBulldog]

I would add this.....and only this......premium pricing was intially set by verisign....which is fine.....but it is now controlled by Demand/ENOM.

you can bitch and moan all you want, but realize it is not the island's fault, or Verisign's or wal-mart, or anyone else....if you have a problem with premium pricing, take it up with enom.

 

[hullswingerscom]

one of the reasons i come to namepros is because of the Honesty of gregs posts.

i like to think of all you guys as my friends even tho i have never met you

 

[treebytheriver]

Do you want an opinion from an ER nurse that never even heard of the domain business 1 year ago?

Well here you go.

We've all invested time and money and hard work to this extension.

Instead of btching and moaning and complaining "they suck" , "they are screwing us" blah blah blah, we need to harness our energy into something positive.

When I asked in a thread "what can we do?", someone replied "here's what you can do, go buy a dot com and make some money". You know what??

WRONG ANSWER.

There is something we can do. Do you realize that between all of us, we probably have connections to almost every major player in the .tv business.

There is power in numbers, and it's not just us here at Namepros, we can reach out to people in tons of forums and blogs, as well as personal connections.

Whether its a group letter to Enom, or a petition, or a premium name buying strike, or simply helping each other with SEO etc, we can work together to get what we want and help the extension, and make some money in the process.

If you feel that something is not right, DO something about it. If you want us to help you, ASK for help. I have no problem with people being upset with valid complaints, but instead of a bitchfest, let's try to fix these issues. We may not succeed, but at the very least we can TRY.


AWARENESS:
Let's get our sites out there, and increase awareness of the extension! I challenge all of you to take your best tv domain name, and develop it to your best ability. If you dont have cash, you can make a quality Wordpress site, at least the beginnings of it, in less than a day. Get a catchy logo, and start some branding. Spend some time networking and get people talking and blogging about your site. We NEED the public to see dottv's in Google. We NEED the public to know about dottv.

Who care's that Richard R is a #%@$@! Let's stick together and prove him wrong, we certainly don't need him in the smallest bit.

We DO have power to make changes!

Heidi

 

[NewWorldArk]

Do you want an opinion from an ER nurse that never even heard of the domain business 1 year ago?

Well here you go....

Nice Post.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

hence why many of us visit this site less and post with far less frequency...glad to see something being done.

 

[DnEbook]

if i dont like a thread ...... i dont read it , so no complaints from me , its a forum , we all have a chance to voice opinions whether you agree of disagree , i dont post as much as i did, because not much has changed for me , got about 20 names , none developed at this point , just nice to know if i have a question this is a good place to ask ..... for that i am grateful !!!!! goodluck to all

 

[MicroGuy]

hence why many of us visit this site less and post with far less frequency...glad to see something being done.

Glad you're back. Does this mean you'll be updating your TV blog more frequently? I visit it everyday waiting for your next post.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Glad you're back. Does this mean you'll be updating your TV blog more frequently? I visit it everyday waiting for your next post.

I would love to spend more time blogging about tv, but I don't have the same free time that I used to. If I did, I don't know what else I could write about .tv other than keeping people updated with recent sales etc and I feel the forums do a better job of that. I have considered reorganizing the blog to allow people to access a lot more of the useful information that is buried.

if i dont like a thread ...... i dont read it , so no complaints from me , its a forum , we all have a chance to voice opinions whether you agree of disagree , i dont post as much as i did, because not much has changed for me , got about 20 names , none developed at this point , just nice to know if i have a question this is a good place to ask ..... for that i am grateful !!!!! goodluck to all

I don't think its about the topics started but where the discussions fall apart within those topics.

 

[xman]

I don't like .TV........I love 'em.

They always say buy cheap and sell high.

.TV is doing exactly that for me.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

If the new rule is that we can't say anything repetitive about Demand Media, then I guess the new visitors that come along will just have to do some digging into the archives to find out the truth. Again unfortunate.

I don't think that this means you can't say anything negative about demand media. I think if a new issue arises or some sort of new current factual information about demand media or verisign comes up, and it is a current issue, then it needs to be discussed. I think what Ray means is there needs to be more productivity, instead of just having a demand media flame thread, saying they suck etc...

I would have to agree that this forum does not seem to be as productive, or moving forward, although I feel alot of people are busy focusing on projects.

I however, I feel .tv values are slowly rising up, and will continue.

I do think that Gregs post that was stickied is a good post for people to look at to understand what is going in.