.mobi It's Makes Zero Difference Where A .mobi Points to

[thinking1]

People argue about how the .mobi names that are currently being developed forward to another address after you type in soandso.mobi.

Once and for all, that doesn't matter! If a company has a .mobi name and are promoting it, it doesn't matter to the user what the end address becomes once they reach the website.

For instance,

Sedo.com redirects to http://www.sedo.com/main.php3?language=us

Flowers.com redirects to http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome.do?cm_mmc=tagged-_-na-_-na-_-na&bannerBeacon=true


Now. I don't think since the address at flowers.com changed on me that I'm going to memorize that new address and keep typing it in. The first one seems easier although that's not what the page lands on.

 

[thinking1]

Thanks guys.

Also, dagersh I really mean .001 percent. That's more than a 100 million less people hearing about mobi. This year mobi is evolving and next year I truely believe it will boom with advertising since there will be many more sites and content to promote. Then Jeff will be allowed to bring this argument up again. I also completely agree with your opinion analysis.

I like the sound of mobi too Jeff. So does my girlfriend and her friends who have no idea of domains. So does my family, so do my coworkers, and others. One person at my work said mobi sounds kind of weird and I asked him what he thought would be good for the mobile web. He said he didn't know what mobile extensions there were but they should make .com websites work on cellphones.

The majority of people I spoke to about mobile internet just want it to work on their phones. Many people liked the idea about something uniform that allows all sites to be viewable and guaranteed, such as mobi. Every .com website redirecting to a mobile version of their would work too but most .com owners don't want to do the work putting in the new code and making a new subdomain of their site.

People don't give a crap about how mobi sounds, they just want it to work or .com to work. They want the web on their phones. They want cheap internet prices and quick speeds.

.mobi feeling silly isn't a good argument

Fair enough, I will work harder to open my mind in this context going forward!



They do not exactly sound professional, they are successful ... and many people have become very rich because of it, yes. :music:
Is it possible that .MOBI can, one day, be branded equally, or nearly, as successfully? Yes, perhaps. I think the extension is seriously up against the clock and there are many, many unanswered questions ... but I can respect those that are wisely investing & registering -- >> and then developing their .MOBI websites, IMHO.

Conversely, registering anythingunderthesun.mobi's with no "game plan" to develop (or to potentially sell to End users) is simply giving more money to mTLD, in my view. There will be LOTS of drops in the .MOBI Scraps™ ... and it's ashame.

Thanks.
-Jeff

See, that was a quality post by you Jeff. Keep them like that.

 

[labrocca]

People argue about how the .mobi names that are currently being developed forward to another address after you type in soandso.mobi.

Once and for all, that doesn't matter! If a company has a .mobi name and are promoting it, it doesn't matter to the user what the end address becomes once they reach the website.

For instance,

Sedo.com redirects to http://www.sedo.com/main.php3?language=us

Flowers.com redirects to http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome.do?cm_mmc=tagged-_-na-_-na-_-na&bannerBeacon=true


Now. I don't think since the address at flowers.com changed on me that I'm going to memorize that new address and keep typing it in. The first one seems easier although that's not what the page lands on.

Bad examples since BOTH of those do promote their dotcom domain. You have raised actually a good reason why mobi isn't needed. If I want a mobile website I don't advertise mydomain.mobi or mobile.mydomain.com...instead I advertise mydomain.com and redirect as needed...just like Sedo and 1800Flowers.

Thanks for making the argument for me that mobi makes zero difference to mobile users and the major dotcom companies.

They want cheap internet prices and quick speeds.

Interestingly enough it's the backers of mobi that control both features. Instead they have chosen to back mobi. I think it's their way to control a mobile internet and to get a more money (duh). I don't think they want to give our cheap internet prices or quicker speed...if that was the case then we wouldn't need mobi...and that's exactly what the backers are saying.

 

[scandiman]

Bad examples since BOTH of those do promote their dotcom domain. You have raised actually a good reason why mobi isn't needed. If I want a mobile website I don't advertise mydomain.mobi or mobile.mydomain.com...instead I advertise mydomain.com and redirect as needed...just like Sedo and 1800Flowers.

Thanks for making the argument for me that mobi makes zero difference to mobile users and the major dotcom companies.

Can you tell me ten major .com sites that have a device detect redirect to a mobile friendly site? I would like to test them on my daily little nokia.

 

[dag]

Bad examples since BOTH of those do promote their dotcom domain. You have raised actually a good reason why mobi isn't needed. If I want a mobile website I don't advertise mydomain.mobi or mobile.mydomain.com...instead I advertise mydomain.com and redirect as needed...just like Sedo and 1800Flowers.

Thanks for making the argument for me that mobi makes zero difference to mobile users and the major dotcom companies.

I don't know, Labrocca...your recycled arguments just don't sound as, well, committed anymore. They're lacking a bit of oomph. But hey, you got called an a**h*** just a couple of days ago, so I guess you haven't completely lost it.

 

[movingconcierge]

Let me say how articulate labrocca seems tonight:

This message is hidden because PICK YOUR MEMBER is on your ignore list.

May I suggest some of you reach for the aspirin too It makes these threads much easier to take. Just take the wind out of the sails and the junk will just drift away...

:imho:

Good luck.

 

[labrocca]

I don't know, Labrocca...your recycled arguments just don't sound as, well, committed anymore. They're lacking a bit of oomph. But hey, you got called an a**h*** just a couple of days ago, so I guess you haven't completely lost it.

Maybe because I am not "committed" to any argument. I call things like I see them.

Let me say how articulate labrocca seems tonight:

This message is hidden because PICK YOUR MEMBER is on your ignore list.

So seemingly I am on his IGNORE list yet he still doesn't ignore me. Hmm...normally when I add people to my ignore list...I don't ever address them. That's sort of the point of an IGNORE feature. Anyone want to bet he still clicks the "read this post" button anyways. So much for ignore buddy.

 

[satsdifference.com]

Redirects are great

Redirects are phase one of Dot Mobi adoption..

Though some of us may see it as the glass have empty, I see it as the glass half full..

Getting your foot into the Dot Mobi door is a good sign; even, if there is a redirect currently..

And, what do you think will happen once all those reserved premium names are distributed to companies vying to use it?

Who knows, but by that time I am sure Dot Mobi wants to be in high tide mode for .mobi world brand recognition..

One thing is clear, that everyone is confused by how this whole mobile domain thing will unfold..

What is phase two?

Like polo.mobi ..

Perhaps, companies will realize to catch on to the trend... that brand.mobi is the best long term solution for a business to invest in their future..

Why? Because a mobile device detect and redirect on the .com jips the rising, fewer but future, advanced PDAs from seeing the full pc version site with scrollbars "on the go".

It is like the old Iphone argument is actually helping the need for Dot Mobi by creating an abyss like split in the redirect Dot Com movement.. with the "preservation of information" on the .com issue.. (for advanced PDAs that may need to see all the pc-like information in full features with scrollbars "on the go")

Bottom Line

Bookmark That :red:



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[thinking1]

Maybe because I am not "committed" to any argument. I call things like I see them.

Jesse, basically just said that you don't fully care about what you talk about.

Does that mean you are starting to become a mobi lover again? If you don't really care that much about fighting anymore about it because you can't bring up new arguments and don't even care about your own arguments then maybe you have changed.

So do you love mobi now, or just not hate it as much as before and still aren't gonna invest anymore in it?

 

[scandiman]

Can you tell me ten major .com sites that have a device detect redirect to a mobile friendly site? I would like to test them on my daily little nokia.

Labrocca, I'm still waiting.

 

[labrocca]

Labrocca, I'm still waiting.

Keep waiting. I don't use a cell phone for internet browsing nor care to view pages in small screens.

Jesse, basically just said that you don't fully care about what you talk about.

What ever made you think I cared to begin with? I just love the discussion and debate. It's obvious some domainers don't want to read contrary opinions but others opinions don't bother me in the least bit..no matter how misguided or ignorant. I have a strong stomach for debate. Hate mobi isn't how I would phrase how I feel. I have contempt for mTLD and mobi.

You mobineers are an entertaining bunch.

 

[scandiman]

I don't use a cell phone for internet browsing nor care to view pages in small screens.

Thanks for making the argument for me that mobi makes zero difference to mobile users and the major dotcom companies.

So you don't use a cell phone for internet browsing but you claim to know that mobi make zero difference to mobile users. How would you even know? It is crystal clear that you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[labrocca]

It is crystal clear that you have no clue what you are talking about.

I never claimed to be a mobile expert. And yes I might have no clue what I am talking about.

 

[dag]

I never claimed to be a mobile expert. And yes I might have no clue what I am talking about.

I appreciate your honesty. Really. :tu:

 

[thinking1]

Man Jesse. I'm glad you just admit to this and are open about it.

But you can have done this months ago. We would have all had wasted less energy going over these pointeless discussions.

Oh well. At least you finally came clean.

 

[scandiman]

Man Jesse. I'm glad you just admit to this and are open about it.

But you can have done this months ago. We would have all had wasted less energy going over these pointeless discussions.

Oh well. At least you finally came clean.

Agreed!

 

[labrocca]

Dude...maybe that's why I get such a kick out of everyone here. As if you guys are experts in something...lol...at least I admit what I don't know. What I do know...is domains and markets. I don't have to be an end-user to speculate what others may think about mobi. I also can easily see through the mTLD hype machine.

This is a forums...we talk a lot of crap here for various reasons. No need to take 95% of it seriously. imho...this sites value is friends you make and the deals..the rest is just talk.

And lastly..while I admit I may be a clueless moron...I could also be correct in my statements. I don't proclaim omniscience.

 

[-REECE-]

Dude...maybe that's why I get such a kick out of everyone here. As if you guys are experts in something...lol...at least I admit what I don't know. What I do know...is domains and markets. I don't have to be an end-user to speculate what others may think about mobi. I also can easily see through the mTLD hype machine.

This is a forums...we talk a lot of crap here for various reasons. No need to take 95% of it seriously. imho...this sites value is friends you make and the deals..the rest is just talk.

And lastly..while I admit I may be a clueless moron...I could also be correct in my statements. I don't proclaim omniscience.

I think some people in this forum are way too touchy... I enjoy hearing both sides of the argument -- just because some of us have .mobis, it doesn't mean we don't have names in other extensions and if other extensions would fare better, why the heck wouldn't I want to know about that?

No doubt mtld's marketing is good enough to make a movie about... Will .mobi be more than an overhyped flop? Quite honestly, none of us actually know the answer, including mtld. I'm a firm believer in chaos theory -- some things, such as .mobi's success are very much probabilistic in nature...

What people don't like to hear, but what is of obvious reality to anyone working in high-tech, is that the future does not need dotmobi -- we never did need dotcom either, so irrelevancy does not necessitate failure. However, it does necessitate a bit of healthy skepticism. Anyone that is 100% optimistic hasn't been involved in domaining all that long IMO... There are so many things some of us have seen over the years... I watched LL.com's crash from XXX,XXX to no offers at the XX,XXX level. I didn't even want to buy any at that point because the future was uncertain in the wake of bubble 1.0...

To say that dotmobi will succeed, must succeed, etc is wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong, as someone owning over 350 dotmobis, I'd like it to succeed, however, I haven't put all my eggs in one basket so to speak. There are just too many unknown variables at this point -- anyone involved in high-tech would see this immediately. Nevertheless, I feel the odds are better than gambling, so IMO, it is a good investment with the limited knowledge we currently have, albeit a risky one. I'd liken it to angel investing... The profits to be reaped may be enormous... keyword=may.

I'm not trying to disappoint anyone, just siding with Labrocca here. For all those that don't like hearing negative opinions -- get used to it! Dotcom had plenty of naysayers from the start, and especially when everything crashed... Doesn't mean you have to listen to them, but, I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone goes around investing their retirement money in .mobis, something which could be done in .coms with little risk.

If things play out the way I believe they will, I feel dotmobi will be of at least moderate success -- defining moderate as equivalent to .net or greater. For some people, that may be enough to push them well into the X,XXX,XXX. For others, perhaps that won't be enough... Dotcom was an amazing opportunity back in the day. But just because this is a "new internet", does not mean we'll have a "new dotcom".

 

[garrett200]

I also can easily see through the mTLD hype machine.

It's called marketing, every company does it. Do you expect them just to sit back and not promote their brand?

 

[-REECE-]

It's called marketing, every company does it. Do you expect them just to sit back and not promote their brand?

Some of it goes a little above marketing and borderlines blatant deception. Claiming for example that dotmobi is more successful than dotcom was for the first 10 years is a little hard to swallow. How many people had internet connections in 1985 vs 2006-07?

 

[garrett200]

I think what they said was that there have been more registrations of .mobi names in the first 6 months of .mobi than there were in the first 10 years of .com.

That's what I remember hearing. I certainly don't think they would ever try to say it is more successful than the first 10 years of .com, because .mobi just started!