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WordPress? It seems my couple of experiments with WP never rank compared to my static html projects. I like the ease of WP for a rapid deployment but I've had bad luck ranking on my keywords for the domain.

I even took one of my static sites, added WP and it KILLED my ranks for several months. I am now climbing back after the worst mistake now it seems to add WP in place of a static index.

The reason why I ask is I have several domains I want to deploy rapid and thought WP would be the way to go. Or should I just go with my own template code.
 
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I didnt think WP hurt ranks like that.
 
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Is WP worth rapid development?
I can't find the source link right now, but Wordpress has serious issues and is, IMO, very over-rated by many webmasters.
 
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yeah i agree there are better cms out there but wordpress community makes it stand out from the rest.
 
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wow - i've only had good experiences with wordpress, especially with searches.

did you have any duplicate text left in there? Like the comment, page, links ('blogroll') or post that came with the site? if it's not that i can't think it's anything on the WP side that would hurt you...
 
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It's just a tool, what you do with it is what's important.

And afaik, its the most seo friendly open source cms out there today.

See one of our minisites - HaHa TV - registered 19th March 2010 - current alexa rank is 1.5mm, up from 0 when it was registered [ Haha.tv - Site Info from Alexa ].
 
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I have never had a single problem with Wordpress, I run a few sites with it and it is stable, secure, easy to manage and very SEO with the all-in-one-seo plugin and a few other plugins. If I need to get data out there quick to show users and make a fast buck, I slack on an install of WP and load it up with content. Doesn't get any easier than that.
 
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Using WordPress isn't going to "kill" your rankings on a previously static site. Are you sure you weren't inadvertently blocking search engines? It's a common mistake during installation. More info here: Are You Killing Your Own WordPress SEO? | Theme Lab

Is WP worth rapid development?
I can't find the source link right now, but Wordpress has serious issues and is, IMO, very over-rated by many webmasters.

I'd love to see that link.
 
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A lot of people run it and get duplicate content problems, which Google hates. Some of the "No Duplicate Content" plugins do not work right, so use all-in-one-seo, it places the correct canonical meta tag to tell Google which page to index and which to ignore. here is what some do:

PHP:
<link rel="canonical" content="http://site.com/" />

When it should do:

PHP:
<link rel="canonical" href="http://site.com/" />

The person before me is right, there is an option to keep the blog private in the settings.

Check that Google has not blocked the IP you are on. I get first page listings on a lot of keywords with my wordpress blogs, so this is just you. Then again, are yu sure Google did not ban your domain for something?

Honestly, this is the first time I have heard anyone complain about Wordpress and SEO. Hell, checkout my buddy's blog at blackberryrocks.com, he gets thousands of hits daily from Google.... using wordpress.

You may want to look at Matt Cutt's blog at http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ he is all knowing of Google and SEO. He works for Google, so he knows his stuff.

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Is WP worth rapid development?
I can't find the source link right now, but Wordpress has serious issues and is, IMO, very over-rated by many webmasters.

Every post I have read from you thus far has been nothing but misinformation, I think you are talking just to be talking. :td:
 
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Wordpressing...

Every post I have read from you thus far has been nothing but misinformation, I think you are talking just to be talking. :td:

  • You are mistaken, and I forgive you. :blink:
  • BTW: You were an active poster in the recent thread about "positive attitude", Isn't your attack on me a bit ironic?
  • I do not like false attacks: Would you please PM me with links to the other posts you are referring to?

Here is a detailed article regarding (advanced) issues with using Wordpress:
(FYI: This is just one example, and not the link I was originally talking about)

"I use it, many other people use it, it works. Heck, I'm using it right now. But from a technical standpoint, Wordpress sucks...."
An Exercise in Wordpress Integration, or Why Wordpress Sucks

  • Surely there's a basic function that will output a post's content?
    ...Suddenly, the skies darken. Evil laughter booms out. Ha ha ha! Wordpress mocks the folly of simplistic functional thinking!

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One of the readers comments:
Doing what you want actually isn't that hard in wordpress. You can run the loop using an output buffer and that would give you the output exactly how you wanted it in a way that you could do anything you want with it.

You alternatively could have your external script load the WordPress API (and thus make it easy for it to do it's own loop) by requiring wp-load.php (assuming your external script is a php script).

  • Anyone care to share what an "output buffer" means in this case, and exactly how to use it? (I will "google it" later if no one here can answer)
  • Whenever I try "require ____.php" from another script it tends to cause errors (i.e. "headers already sent"); This advice about the Wordpress API looks interesting has anyone tried it before?
 
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With wordpress and a few links and good quality content I have been able to get on the first page of google most of the time in the top 5 for almost all of my minisites within a few months. Wordpress is easy to use and there are so many plugins for it.

You just have to be careful about the security of it.
 
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Surely there's a basic function that will output a post's content?

Yeah because that surely has something to do with my revenue being so high from all of the Google Traffic I get from my WP blogs. *sarcasm* It makes me good money with very little work, thus it rocks. Money is the measure of success in this industry, not the rants of someone looking for a fault, everything has at least one fault.

People that use it for it's intended purpose, don't care about this. That is like complaining that my car doesn't print out my trip summary after i park at my destination. The point is, that it got me to my destination faster.

Anyway, this is off topic, the topic was related to page rankings, not design structure.

Too feed your curiousity:

output buffer

Output buffering lets you output the page data at the end of the script. This particular snippet lets you do a search/replace to the total script output.

PHP:
<?php

function callback($buffer) {
  // replace all the apples with oranges
  return (str_replace("apples", "oranges", $buffer));
}

ob_start("callback");

?>
<html>
<body>
<p>It's like comparing apples to oranges.</p>
</body>
</html>
<?php

ob_end_flush();

?>
 
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I don't know, but it seems since Google deployed Caffeine this year, some WP sites have suffered. Also in the past, it was easier to rank WP sites, but since this year, it seems harder, at least in my experience.

When something is too popular, it makes some sense not to join the crowd. And WP is super popular and has been hyped to the ninth degree.
 
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When something is too popular, it makes some sense not to join the crowd. And WP is super popular and has been hyped to the ninth degree.

Don't really get your argument here. I can understand when you're talking about some sort of niche that might get too crowded, but WordPress is just a tool that can help you easily make sites.

I agree with you about the hype though, some people think that just because they use WordPress they're somehow entitled to all the top rankings because it's so "SEO friendly" ...SEO is a bit more complicated than just using WordPress.
 
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WordPress is a great tool for minisite and RAD projects - we've had much success with it, far outrunning performance on a parking site. That said, it requires a bit more effort upfront, and it is not the killer solution to easy riches. Effort is still required; and a lot of it depends on the classic factors affecting your product or service (domain) notably: how much competition, value of product, supply and demand...

Rob
 
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