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Is Mr. Francois right or wrong? You decide.

Located in Warnings and Alerts started by simmplex, Oct 8, 2015.

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  1. simmplex

    simmplex Active Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi, my fellow friends,

    I need your advices.
    Please comment if it is right or wrong for Mr. Francois of ecop.com
    to change the fee rules of Ecop.com and end my yearly premium membership 2 or 3 months (nor sure about the date)after I paid.

    Here are the emails between Mr. Francois and me.

    ECOP.com [email protected] via cybertonic.com
    6/18/13
    Reply
    to me

    Hi,

    Yes for one or two months we had this incentive but this not attracted a lot of new customers plus…
    So now it’s free for anyone for sales under $500.

    It’s not possible to pursue this incentive as the code as been removed to handle this.
    But if you are not satisfied with your premium membership we can refund you the premium membership and charge you all the ecop transaction you made over $500 where you did not paid any escrow fee. Let me know.

    On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Joe wrote:
    Hi,

    My ID is
    [email protected]

    Thank you very much for your quick reply!
    And sorry for my frankness.

    If there was a fee rule change,
    It should effect when my premium membership expires,
    Because when I paid the premium membership,
    What I weighed is the benefit of no escrow fees for transactions below 1000USD.

    Best regards,
    Joe
    [email protected]
    June 18,2013
     
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  2. simmplex

    simmplex Active Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Is here anyone else will say Ok and move on?

    When you come to a hotel with a regular price of $10/day, and a discount price of $365/year, and you pay the discount price of $365/year. And two months later, the manger come to you and say, ”We will now cancel the discount price, you need to move out, if you are not satisfied, I will refund the $365 you paid, but you need to pay me $600 for you have lived here for the past 60 days”.
     
  3. D Haynes

    D Haynes Active Member VIP

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    Yeah it certainly sounds shady. Check the t's&c's to see if there is some kind of disclaimer. They should honour the deal for the year though Id have thought being as the whole attraction to the membership was the deal.
     
  4. LucidDomains

    LucidDomains LucidDomains.com VIP

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    Using your hotel analogy - you have 5 options
    1. Tell the hotel manager to honour the deal and allow you to stay for 10 months.
    2. Demand/Request a refund of the $305 ($365 - $60) and then continue to pay at $10/day.
    3. Pay $235 extra and continue to use that hotel.
    4. Chargeback back $365 and cease trading with the hotel altogether.
    5. Do nothing and leave.
    I hope that helps, I cannot really advise you on your particular situation as I don't really understand what's going on.
     
  5. Raindrops

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    Not knowing the amount you would be looking at if you retroactively have fees from prior transactions over $500 - it's hard to evaluate.

    Perhaps you should inquire if the membership price you paid (which is now being cancelled) can be pro-rated for the the months you used it, and the difference be refunded. I don't know the details of the costs involved, but as an ex:

    $300 year subscription/ 12 months= $25 mo x 3 mo's use ($75-$300) = refund $225

    Or the option they offered, which is full refund minus any retroactive escrow fees you would owe on prior transactions.
     
  6. biggie

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    Hi

    if you were selling a domain and you only used ecop to receive payments, i wouldn't buy it if i had to join, to send you money.

    imo...
     
  7. simmplex

    simmplex Active Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Still waiting for Mr. François Carrillo of eCop.com and Domaining to come to reply.
     
  8. simmplex

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  9. ntjedge

    ntjedge Established Member

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    Is this still ongoing even after close to 2 years?
     
  10. simmplex

    simmplex Active Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It's really ridiculous to see this,


    https://onlinedomain.com/2018/04/10...-this-time-with-an-oliver-hoger-owned-domain/


    Francois
    April 11, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Oliver Hoger is one of the very few domainers I don’t care to close a deal without using escrow. These past 10 years I had several dozen of domain transactions with him and I never had a single issue. Apparently, it’s also the case of most domainers because I never had anyone who came to me complaining about a domain transaction problem. According to my experience, he only has one word and will honor his speech even if according to last minute changing circumstances he should lose money in a deal or make more much canceling the transaction. So I do not understand very well all this Namejet story but I can say I will be astonished he did not act correctly. Now if he really screwed you and you have strong evidence, open an case but please don’t bash people only based on rumors, hate or because you are having a bad day.
     
  11. Rich

    Rich Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It's really a shame to see many of the big players get consumed with power and greed lately. I try to stay away from small time services and pay no mind to the signup perks/low costs/fluff. Hope everything works out for you simmplex.
     
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  12. simmplex

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    @DomainingCom

    Do you think it is OK for the current registrar of domaining.com to take it back and refund you $10?
     
  13. simmplex

    simmplex Active Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    @DomainingCom


    https://www.thedomains.com/2017/07/20/oliver-hoger-posts-side-namepros/

    Francois says

    JULY 21, 2017 AT 2:22 AM

    I do not think having bought more than a pair of domains at Namejet this past decade (mainly because they did not accept Paypal) so I cannot comment on anything there. But what I can say is (like most old domainers) I have purchased, sold and exchanged many short domains with Oliver Hoger and the guy has always been 100% honest. The kind of domainer who is serious and you can trust because he does this for a living and for a long time, he will not risk his reputation trying to scam you. I am not astonished to read he is using sophisticated tools to buy/sell at the best possible price because for me he has always been part of the pro and most active domainers. Many have at a moment lent a hand to a friend placing a bid or sending a domain to auction, so he probably did it himself few times but I do not see him involved in a recurrent bid shilling game. I never felt dealing with him the guy who places the love of the gain over ethic, so I hope he could prove his honesty.
     
  14. simmplex

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    I am wondering why Mr. Francois has not come to clarify for the last 3 years.

    @DomainingCom

    DomainingCom was last seen: Jun 14, 2018
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018

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