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As reported by TLDInvestors.com (as a follow up to https://www.namepros.com/threads/wi...n-the-u-s-court-on-behalf-of-the-ica.1178011/), the Internet Commerce Association is acting in favor of the Booking.com's attempt to have "booking.com" trademarked.

Should the Booking.com succeed, they are going to be significantly empowered to fight anyone who also happens to have a ...booking.com domain name, like NYВооking.соm or ТоkуоВооking.соm or ТоtаlВооking.соm etc. (no affiliation with the mentioned domain names or their owners, names are masked from index, these are only for the sake of example)

Its not hard to understand why the ICA supports this – most of their members are fat cat domain investors who have some of the very best single word .com domains, and if the big business sees the opportunity for monopolizing certain industries in this, the value of such single word domains is going to rise dramatically.

However, not so much benefit to the owners of prefix+word.com or word+word.com domains and the like.
 
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@Internet.Domains sounds like you have some ideas on what the ICA should do. Give me a call tomorrow to share them with me: 1-866-654-7129.
 
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@Internet.Domains sounds like you have some ideas on what the ICA should do. Give me a call tomorrow to share them with me: 1-866-654-7129.

Why can't we all benefit from these ideas, why does it have to be a private conversation between only two people.

Protecting special interest should not be the goal here, the mandate should be to protect all domain registrants.

If a company already has a category defining .com within a certain Industry that means that they already have a big advantage over everyone else.

In my opinion giving a trademark for that category defining .com will only open the door to monopolistic and predatory practices to stifle the competition.
 
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@Internet.Domains sounds like you have some ideas on what the ICA should do. Give me a call tomorrow to share them with me: 1-866-654-7129.
Thank you @Zak Muscovitch for taking my call today. Your passion for the domain community should not be understood, it is phenomenal!

After a lengthy and detailed conversation I am truly impressed with the accomplishments, over a range of different issues, under your leadership. I am truly impressed!

I feel the ICA is doing exemplary work for the domain investing community. Making progress, changes and setting higher standards for the benefit of the entire domain investing community. Again, I am truly impressed.

Thanks for all you are doing for the domain community Zak!
 
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@Internet.Domains can you give us a bit of an overview of the conversation and what you learned? Interested to hear, and your initial skepticism sounds totally converted to that of a true believer! Many thanks in advance friend.
 
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Thank you @Zak Muscovitch for taking my call today. Your passion for the domain community should not be understood, it is phenomenal!

After a lengthy and detailed conversation I am truly impressed with the accomplishments, over a range of different issues, under your leadership. I am truly impressed!

I feel the ICA is doing exemplary work for the domain investing community. Making progress, changes and setting higher standards for the benefit of the entire domain investing community. Again, I am truly impressed.

Thanks for all you are doing for the domain community Zak!

So we just have to take your word for this,

Why can't the rest of us also hear the details of their work that has impressed you to this extent.

IMO
 
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Many thanks @Internet.Domains for reaching out, the great call, and sharing your thoughts with me. From the call I learned that we must do a better job of communicating what the ICA does, to the domain name community. I really appreciate it.
 
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Do you think it would be helpful if the ICA held an interactive webinar for Namepros users?
 
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Or you can mention the key points right here that has made a believer of @Internet.Domains :)

I think you would get a lot more out of hearing it from me personally in a conversation
Definitely!

OK, let's see who would be interested in a webinar,. I think you would get a lot more out of it than just reading a post from me where I wouldn't be able to provide much color. :)
 
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@Internet.Domains can you give us a bit of an overview of the conversation and what you learned? Interested to hear, and your initial skepticism sounds totally converted to that of a true believer! Many thanks in advance friend.
The three main issues that I had were discussed. They are:

- .org takeover
- changes to .com
- UDRP issues

I am truly impressed with the work that the ICA has done for each issue above. They have been very involved with each issue. They are passionately representing the domain community and making our presence known. We have a voice and because of the ICA they (ICANN, organizations, governments) are listening and making changes for our benefit. Changes that wouldn't be done without the ICA's action.

The ICA's engagement is all action. They are not just talking about it. They are doing it. All action. I am truly impressed.
 
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I think you would get a lot more out of hearing it from me personally in a conversation

Give us the key points here and you can have the webinar later, that's the only way that you can look as being transparent.

And it's best to hear it from you directly raher than from someone else (no disrespect intended towards @Internet.Domains)


IMO
 
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@Zak Muscovitch In case any details of company change (For Profit), you should notify the crunchbase editorial or login and diy.

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> crunchbase
 
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I would be interested to learn the overall landscape and how it's changing from the ICA perspective. The main issues and what is being done and could be done. We domainers seldom navigate these intricacies, and ignorance is a killer. I would also like to know how I can support this Don Quijote fairytale, without shelling out a fortune.
 
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The three main issues that I had were discussed. They are:

- .org takeover
- changes to .com
- UDRP issues

I am truly impressed with the work that the ICA has done for each issue above. They have been very involved with each issue. They are passionately representing the domain community and making our presence known. We have a voice and because of the ICA they (ICANN, organizations, governments) are listening and making changes for our benefit. Changes that wouldn't be done without the ICA's action.

The ICA's engagement is all action. They are not just talking about it. They are doing it. All action. I am truly impressed.
Thx ID. So going back to Don's original concern
Should the Booking.com succeed, they are going to be significantly empowered to fight anyone who also happens to have a ...booking.com domain name, like NYВооking.соm or ТоkуоВооking.соm or ТоtаlВооking.соm etc.
after the convo how do you feel about ICA and them protecting other legitimate uses on a generic term such as booking? Is it like a case-by-case scenario? And even so, I'm not sure how one could come to a ruling across the board, booking could easily be broken down into multiple geos having legitimate uses with the term.
 
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Thx ID. So going back to Don's original concern

after the convo how do you feel about ICA and them protecting other legitimate uses on a generic term such as booking? Is it like a case-by-case scenario? And even so, I'm not sure how one could come to a ruling across the board, booking could easily be broken down into multiple geos having legitimate uses with the term.

Transparency is what is needed here from ICA not only about this issue, but also about their overall mission and activities.
 
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Transparency is what is needed here from ICA not only about this issue, but also about their overall mission and activities.
I'm totally down with a webinar, it's about as transparent as you can get. But I also trust ID's output, he's a longtime advocate for the truth and generally has a good handle on things.

Awarding exclusivity to generic terms is something we should be moving away from, not towards. The Internet is evolving, we are all part of making sure it's for the better.
 
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Awarding exclusivity to generic terms is something we should be moving away from, not towards. The Internet is evolving, we are all part of making sure it's for the better.


This is what I said a few posts earlier:

"Protecting special interest should not be the goal here, the mandate should be to protect all domain registrants.

If a company already has a category defining .com within a certain Industry that means that they already have a big advantage over everyone else.

In my opinion giving a trademark for that category defining .com will only open the door to monopolistic and predatory practices to stifle the competition."


Advocating for a multi billion dollar company and keeping things in a shroud of secrecy is not the way that ICA should be conducting itself as that is only going to raise more questions.

IMO
 
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