question Is ICA your friend?

[capybara]

As reported by TLDInvestors.com (as a follow up to https://www.namepros.com/threads/wi...n-the-u-s-court-on-behalf-of-the-ica.1178011/), the Internet Commerce Association is acting in favor of the Booking.com's attempt to have "booking.com" trademarked.

Should the Booking.com succeed, they are going to be significantly empowered to fight anyone who also happens to have a ...booking.com domain name, like NYВооking.соm or ТоkуоВооking.соm or ТоtаlВооking.соm etc. (no affiliation with the mentioned domain names or their owners, names are masked from index, these are only for the sake of example)

Its not hard to understand why the ICA supports this – most of their members are fat cat domain investors who have some of the very best single word .com domains, and if the big business sees the opportunity for monopolizing certain industries in this, the value of such single word domains is going to rise dramatically.

However, not so much benefit to the owners of prefix+word.com or word+word.com domains and the like.

 

[ProfitMaker]

And stop using these important psychological phenomenons as a way of trying to manipulate and put down the real argument.

 

[Zak Muscovitch]

Please post if you are interested in an interactive webinar. We can do it if we have enough interest from Namepros members. Or you can message me.

 

[jberryhill]

What are your reservations or concerns?

They are irrelevant to the subject of this thread. I've never known a person or an organization with whom I agreed 100% of the time on every question. Ultimately, the case will be decided one way or the other, and that's simply out of my hands. The planet does manage to spin without my input.

That there would be an anonymous newbie on a message forum casting aspersions on the ICA is also no surprise.

 

[trelgor]

They are irrelevant to the subject of this thread. I've never known a person or an organization with whom I agreed 100% of the time on every question. Ultimately, the case will be decided one way or the other, and that's simply out of my hands. The planet does manage to spin without my input.

That there would be an anonymous newbie on a message forum casting aspersions on the ICA is also no surprise.

You can’t learn anything without perspectives, but I respect your position.

 

[oldtimer]

They are irrelevant to the subject of this thread. I've never known a person or an organization with whom I agreed 100% of the time on every question. Ultimately, the case will be decided one way or the other, and that's simply out of my hands. The planet does manage to spin without my input.

That there would be an anonymous newbie on a message forum casting aspersions on the ICA is also no surprise.

You are correct about this case being out of yours and everyone else's hands in the domain Industry at this point, but it's not the case itself that is being discussed here (perhaps that's a good subject for another thread) , but rather how ICA is involved in this case and whom it is advocating for.

We are not trying to persecute any one person here, but rather to make sure that ICA as an organization stands true to its mission when it comes to protecting the rights and interests of all registrants and in that regards your perspective on the way that ICA should handle itself going forward is appreciated and can help set things on the right track by making sure that there is a better mechanism put in place for reaching important decisions and choosing the right goals than just relying on the judgment of one person in this organization.

As a respected attorney in the domain Industry perhaps you and other trusted members can help make ICA a more effective and transparent organization by making sure that it's not just a one man operation.

IMO

 

[biggie]

is ICA your friend

the question, if any, should be....

are they your enemy?

are they against, the same things... that you are in favor of?

That there would be an anonymous newbie on a message forum casting aspersions on the ICA is also no surprise.

lol,
and the reaction to it, was so representative, of it.

imo...

 

[ProfitMaker]

ICA is fake

 

[ProfitMaker]

And gotta give credit for not censoring the comments. Even the one's against NP itself.

 

[jberryhill]

As a respected attorney in the domain Industry perhaps you and other trusted members can help make ICA a more effective and transparent organization by making sure that it's not just a one man operation.

You mean like being on the ICA's legal advisory group? That sort of thing:

https://www.internetcommerce.org/wh...aint-has-been-filed-against-your-domain-name/

https://www.internetcommerce.org/ica_ky_amicus/

I've been doing that for years along with several other attorneys in this space. There is, incidentally, no money involved. I appreciate your input on how I should be spending my time, though.

That's my contribution. What's yours?

 

[oldtimer]

is ICA your friend

the question, if any, should be....

are they your enemy?

Why should there be any questions to begin with,

It's like asking if your Doctor is your friend or your enemy,

Your Doctor should advocate for your health and ICA should advocate for the health of the domain Industry at large (and not for any special interest).

IMO

 

[ProfitMaker]

Why should there be any questions to begin with,

It's like asking if your Doctor is your friend or your enemy,

Your Doctor should advocate for your health and ICA should advocate for the health of the domain Industry at large (and not for any special interest).

IMO

ICA is like the doctor who overprescribed opioids to the unsuspecting.

 

[ProfitMaker]

Why should there be any questions to begin with,

It's like asking if your Doctor is your friend or your enemy,

Your Doctor should advocate for your health and ICA should advocate for the health of the domain Industry at large (and not for any special interest).

IMO

Friend, Be more analytical of their rhetoric.

 

[ProfitMaker]

Friend, Be more analytical of their rhetoric.

There's literally five guys from the ICA defending themselves.

 

[bmugford]

ICA is like the doctor who overprescribed opioids to the unsuspecting.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Mark Twain

 

[Pay.My.id]

ICA is important, nobody know when they engage in any situation to solve complicated problem

 

[ProfitMaker]

And their att

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Mark Twain

Psuedo-intellectuals favourite way to detrack an arguement, first to distract then to defame.

 

[bmugford]

And their att

Psuedo-intellectuals favourite way to distract, first to distract then to defame.

All you are throwing out is baseless claims, allegations, and bad analogies.

Provide something useful to the thread, then we can have a productive discussion.

Brad

 

[jberryhill]

Your Doctor should advocate for your health and ICA should advocate for the health of the domain Industry at large (and not for any special interest).

As Zak explained above, the preponderance of opinion at the ICA is that a favorable outcome for Booking.com in this litigation is beneficial to the industry because it increases the perceived value of obtaining dictionary .com names by those who would seek to make brands of them. How is that not beneficial to the industry at large?

Secondly, you are behaving as if that is the only thing ICA does or has ever done. As I said, I believe that other considerations outweigh the argument above, but it is completely typical of the degeneration of discourse that what is a simple and honest disagreement among persons who are aligned is portrayed as some sort of hidden corrupt agenda. That is the classic divide and conquer tactic.

Could you please address my question about what is your contribution to the health of the domain industry at large?

 

[ProfitMaker]

As Zak explained above, the preponderance of opinion at the ICA is that a favorable outcome for Booking.com in this litigation is beneficial to the industry because it increases the perceived value of obtaining dictionary .com names by those who would seek to make brands of them. How is that not beneficial to the industry at large?

Secondly, you are behaving as if that is the only thing ICA does or has ever done. As I said, I believe that other considerations outweigh the argument above, but it is completely typical of the degeneration of discourse that what is a simple and honest disagreement among persons who are aligned is portrayed as some sort of hidden corrupt agenda. That is the classic divide and conquer tactic.

Did you or ICA or any related party engage in any exchange monetary or otherwise with Booking.com or their connected entities or person?

 

[oldtimer]

ICA is like the doctor who overprescribed opioids to the unsuspecting.

Friend, Be more analytical of their rhetoric.

I am more interested in making ICA come true to its mission of protecting the rights and interests of all registrants rather than trying to get any one person, but if there is intentional complacency in the way that things are being handled across the board in the domain Industry then that is something that needs to be looked into.

IMO