Is Dan.com better than Sedo?

[topdom]

I mean, in terms of number of sales, and volume (not in terms of commission).

Switching is a big deal, so I first ask.

 

[alcy]

for me, hands down by far the most sales/offers are from godaddy auctions. and thats with my sale lander not even going to gd auction lander... just people finding and buying names on gd auctions.

i guess the results will vary for some people... but if you aren't lisitng on gd auctions, you are probbaly making a very big mistake.

and i don't go through afternic to gd either... I mean just list direct on gd.

by comparaison, without sedo lander redirects, i only get seldom sales or offers on sedo.. and for dan, without sale lander redirect, i almost never get sale/offer.. and WITH redirect to dan lander, offers and sales are pretty rare too!

p.s. due to a still fairly large porotfolio i own now.. around 1500... though it is shrinking a lot and i want to make it much smaller soon... i put ALL my names on makeoffer only.. I do believe though my sales woud be bit better with bin+makeoffer on gd. imo.

 

[Verysassyc]

these are not scammers but previous owners.
across all markets, there is like 100s of thousands of domains which previous owners never bothered to remove when they expired etc. some markets try to clean them up automaticaly, and some do it only by request like Dan.

so if you see your domain on Dan, email them to remove it. no screenshots, no namecalling, just simple email... i do this once every few days. cheers

Hello!

This person bought my domain on sedo...then didn't pay.
His cc has been refused. He has asked me for a sales receipt immediately after agreeing to a price. Sedo is about to cancel the escrow.
This clown is posing as the owner of domains that he doesnt own...waiting for high offers...then he'll buy them
He has one more day..then i am posting this losers name so others will know to be careful.

 

[Lox]

Hello!
This person bought my domain on sedo...then didn't pay.
His cc has been refused. He has asked me for a sales receipt immediately after agreeing to a price.

Thank you for sharing the information with us.

Regards

 

[tonyk2000]

This person bought my domain on sedo...then didn't pay.
His cc has been refused. He has asked me for a sales receipt immediately after agreeing to a price. Sedo is about to cancel the escrow.

Or, a similar scenario. Have a domain with "Price request" landing page? Or "Make an offer" one? Either immediately or after some negotiation, you'll have to provide asking price to the fraudulent inquirer. He will not purchase immediately. He will spam all the world, all similar domain owners, offering your domain name as his - but with higher price. If some of the recipients did not enjoy the spam - he will submit a report to some spamcop, and the hosting company or the markerplace will ask the legitimate owner why he is spamming, as it is not allowed in T&C. If, however, somebody agreed to purchase - he will invoice him with paypal for example, and only with $$$ in hand he will purchase the domain from real owner. This particular scheme is popular among so-called "domainers" who are also doing pre-release or pendingdelete frontrunning.

 

[Verysassyc]

Thank you for sharing the information with us.

Regards

No problem!!! I am confused how dan.com lets this happen? Obviously they have lax security...

 

[Verysassyc]

Or, a similar scenario. Have a domain with "Price request" landing page? Or "Make an offer" one? Either immediately or after some negotiation, you'll have to provide asking price to the fraudulent inquirer. He will not purchase immediately. He will spam all the world, all similar domain owners, offering your domain name - but with higher price. If some of the recipients did not enjoy the spam - he will submit a report to some spamcop, and the hosting company or the markerplace will ask the legitimate owners why he is spamming, as it is not allowed in T&C. If, however, somebody agreed to purchase - he will invoice him with paypal for example, and only with $$$ in hand he will purchase the domain from real owner. This particular scheme is popular among so-called "domainers" who are also doing pre-release or pendingdelete frontrunning.

I knew something was weird about this transaction...he was really quick to agree to my price...then he insisted on a receipt...i am pissed at him...but i am more pissed at dan.com
I gave them the info...why not look at the whois???
The domain is still for sale there
Insurance.casino

 

[tonyk2000]

He has asked me for a sales receipt immediately after agreeing to a price

In Sedo case, the only thing the buyer can request is an invoice afaik. Technically it is not the sales receipt. An invoice by itself does not mean the payment already occured, or that the domain was delivered. Invoices may remain unpaid forever, or may be replaced etc. etc. etc. IMO you have no obligation to provide invoices to Sedo immediately, as, indeed, he should pay first. And, if some paperwork is required for his bank to proceed with the wire - he can print a lot from Sedo interface. Naturally, no invoice should be required to submit online payment using CC or paypal.

So, you may try:

- let Sedo know that the buyer may not be legitimate. They have seen a lot of suspicious things already (~20 years in business!), and so they are very well capable to handle such issues in an optimal way.

- ask Dan not only to delete this listing, but also to share with you at least the original listing date. They will unlikely give you all the details about the identity of their client, but the listing date is not necessary a big secret. If the date is too old - then it may be simply outdated listing. If the date is yesterday - then something fishy is happening...

 

[Verysassyc]

In Sedo case, the only thing the buyer can request is an invoice afaik. Technically it is not the sales receipt. An invoice by itself does not mean the payment already occured, or that the domain was delivered. Invoices may remain unpaid forever, or may be replaced etc. etc. etc. IMO you have no obligation to provide invoices to Sedo immediately, as, indeed, he should pay first. And, if some paperwork is required for his bank to proceed with the wire - he can print a lot from Sedo interface. Naturally, no invoice should be required to submit online payment using CC or paypal.

So, you may try:

- let Sedo know that the buyer may not be legitimate. They have seen a lot of suspicious things already (~20 years in business!), and so they are very well capable to handle such issues in an optimal way.

- ask Dan not only to delete this listing, but also to share with you at least the original listing date. They will unlikely give you all the details about the identity of their client, but the listing date is not necessary a big secret. If the date is too old - then it may be simply outdated listing. If the date is yesterday - then something fishy is happening...

I know the identity of the client...check him out on Dan.com (insurance.casino.)

 

[Verysassyc]

I know the identity of the client...check him out on Dan.com (insurance.casino.)

Sedo's security notified me: (See Below)

Our system recently flagged the payment due to security reasons. Unfortunately we had to refund the buyer´s credit card payment because the buyer has not sent us the verification documents that our credit card institute has requested.

We have created a new only wire payment request and asked the buyer to resend the payment as soon possible otherwise we have to cancel this transaction.

 

[wwwweb]

No problem!!! I am confused how dan.com lets this happen? Obviously they have lax security...

Do you know how many names listed at sedo, are not even owned by such parties, or long sold. Don't get all worked up, it is one segment of issues you have to deal with in this industry.

 

[Verysassyc]

Do you know how many names listed at sedo, are not even owned by such parties, or long sold. Don't get all worked up, it is one segment of issues you have to deal with in this industry.

...I am sorry I got worked up...I will try harder next time.
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[oppo]

sedo is much better. but why using them at all? own saleslander + escrow.com makes us much more happy

 

[Domiwire]

Yes, DAN is getting better and better as the days passes. More people's are coming with DAN. One major difference i can see that Cost Valuation. In that matter DAN's has less impact on that. One Quality DomaiN You can get Big Offer on SEDO but here on DAN platform people's are mostly investing. On DAN You can get DomaiN $300-$1000 maximum not more than that unless someone thinking very big but at the same time same DomaiN on Sedo you get offer $4000-$10000. Still Early days it's my views only. Let's hope Sedo & Dan always do well for Buyer And Seller point of Views.
Thanks
@TheDomainHub

 

[ArielT]

for me, hands down by far the most sales/offers are from godaddy auctions. and thats with my sale lander not even going to gd auction lander... just people finding and buying names on gd auctions.

i guess the results will vary for some people... but if you aren't lisitng on gd auctions, you are probbaly making a very big mistake.

and i don't go through afternic to gd either... I mean just list direct on gd.

by comparaison, without sedo lander redirects, i only get seldom sales or offers on sedo.. and for dan, without sale lander redirect, i almost never get sale/offer.. and WITH redirect to dan lander, offers and sales are pretty rare too!

p.s. due to a still fairly large porotfolio i own now.. around 1500... though it is shrinking a lot and i want to make it much smaller soon... i put ALL my names on makeoffer only.. I do believe though my sales woud be bit better with bin+makeoffer on gd. imo.

Do those domains show up as available alternatives when someone types for example.com and you have example.newgtld?

 

[BrandCollectors.com]

I mean, in terms of number of sales, and volume (not in terms of commission).

Switching is a big deal, so I first ask.

dan is much much much million times much better than sedo

 

[submachina]

I don't see "make an offer" here on dan dot com landing pages so how is dan better than afternic or sedo?

 

[Domiwire]

Yes Big Difference
Sedo is well established while DAN is getting better Day by Day. If you want more exposure than obviously my votes goes to Sedo. Not only in terms of good Sales but also the number of visitors interested in Selling or buying. Also DAN have no restrictions. Anyone can make a FALSE BIDDING without having an account on DAN and they count this is an Offer. So needs to work more on that. You might not agreed but it's fact. It's like Simplicity Vs Complexity. Views are my own.

 

[tldboss]

I don't see "make an offer" here on dan dot com landing pages so how is dan better than afternic or sedo?

There is make offer / buy-now price / buy-now price & make offer. Depends on how the seller set the domain price (buy-now price and starting offer)

 

[tonyk2000]

DAN: noticeably better designed forsale landing pages, no parking income, listing are not distributed to external registrars, occasional payment issues reported by buyers (as their payment processor Adyen is sometimes too restrictive).

Sedo: not so well designed forsale landing pages, potential parking income, distribution to external registrars (SedoMLS: NetSol, Registercom, Tucows, a number of European registrars, but no godaddy). No serious payment issues reported by buyers.

Shortly - to each his own...

 

[Brandizer]

these are not scammers but previous owners.
across all markets, there is like 100s of thousands of domains which previous owners never bothered to remove when they expired etc. some markets try to clean them up automaticaly, and some do it only by request like Dan.

so if you see your domain on Dan, email them to remove it. no screenshots, no namecalling, just simple email... i do this once every few days. cheers

I see those domainers as scammers because the first thing (which is the right thing) to do when you make a sale, is to clean it off marketplaces and wherever you've mentioned them for sale online. It will save us a great deal of time. I believe some domainers do this deliberately hoping to get a Bargain sale maybe

 

[tldboss]

How do they get a Bargain sale?
Deal can only be completed by the domain owner. Dan does not pay seller if they do not deliver the domain.

 

[Akinola Taiwo]

Please I want to ask....

Did dan.com promote or market domain name after a seller list the domain name on their site or is Dan just a lander to just sell????

A seller will have to market his/her domain name after adding it to Dan....for a better exposure...

But domain name on sedo is more expose than Dan.....

Did you agree?????

 

[Akinola Taiwo]

Has anyone sell a domain on Dan without advertising the domain name somewhere????

Just adding the name on dan and just wait for the buyer to come and buy such name....

 

[jhmisher]

dan.com is a scam black hat company. cant get much worse but sedo pretty awful also

 

[passini]

I didn't read all the posts, I didn't read anyone really... Because I know the answer. Of course Sedo is better because your listings will appear in several registrars and other sites like premium names. I sold several names just because of this. For European domains it works for .com is better Afternic but is worth listing the names in both platforms.

I never tried Dan, I may do in future. The landing pages are good and they get less % per sale but the point is that you dont get more exposition for your name. You send traffic to them but they don't send buyers to you. Sedo sometimes do this.

I think it can be good to use the Dan landings and list the name at Sedo (and Afternic) to use ther distribution networks (if your names have a buy it price).

PS: I may be wrong so in case let me know, I am always looking to learn more and improve.