Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[S-B]

What will happen if we all click on the ad?

No idea. Assuming it goes to the article.

 

[SirDrago]

And we've both stated there has never been a relationship of any kind.

That's what he said....

 

[discobull]

Part 1 out 5.

Let me spill the beans: My Experience with following Adam and enrolling in Domain College.

I really didn’t want to be forth coming like this, but as illustrated with Frank Schilling, your request to get reimbursed or refunded only happens when a public statement is made. I have frankly waited too long and am still waiting on a failed commitment and no connection to an industry insider in order for me to capitalize from a website I paid $1500 for and which the transaction took place 13 months ago. I have since asked for a refund, various times. More on this later in Part 2 or 3.


When entering the Domain Industry I looked for guidance and followed Adam since he seemed like a "mild mannered guy who will do anything for anyone". He displayed wisdom in the Domain Industry. He seem like he was well respected as an industry leader. He showed vulnerability. He cries out openly on a Youtube video, about his harbored feelings about how hard it was to let go of his Dads passing. He seemingly sounded genuine and trusting. I was in for a little shocker.


First: Adam's Domain Broker Course.
http://www.domainsherpa.com/review-20140616/ >>> 59:10
Normally the course was supposed to cost 2k. It was offered on AdamDicker.com. I felt like I was going to learn how to make good domain investments by a respectable domain industry figure. Adam offered a special on DomainSherpa for 1k (50% Off) and stated to visit this link to sign up

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...main-broker-course/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

So, wanting to learn from the Industry Expert and getting real excited on getting 12 coaching sessions by what seems to be by Adam, I signed up. Did I get even one coaching session by Adam? No. Did I get 12 coaching sessions by anyone. No. After visiting the sign up page or link, is it made clear anywhere that the coaching would be given by anyone but Adam? Not to me.

I simply got many Youtube videos, featuring Adam (which I would guess, 95% are readily available on his Youtube channel or on Youtube.com in general or other Video Sources. )

In fact I believe I had watched pretty much had already watched most of them already before this course. So okay. That sucks. Than I should get excited about learning about domaining through Adam's group coaching. Wrong. One coaching session by someone I didn't even know existed because I signed up with the 50% discount. (Didn't state that on the Sign up page on AdamDicker.com. And this was the one and only thing that had some value to me, but was it worth 1k? Sorry, but that one coaching session wasn't that good to be worth 1k.)

Okay, the course was offered by Troy Rushton. However, I think transparency on his "Domain Broker Course", on his website should have been in order. The course is laid out so you take a few courses each day. By the time I was finished and found out that what I thought I signed up for, would not be delivered, the 30 Udemy refund policy had already being surpassed.

Okay. Nothing criminal here. At this time my attitude was: I am eager to learn about domaining. Lets scratch that and move on.

PS: Honestly. I just want closure and want to be refunded what is owed to me. Part 2 tomorrow

Yours is the first piece of real substance in this thread. It's unfortunate that your post has to be buried on page 17 within a thread started by someone with his own set of credibility issues because you appear to have a legitimate complaint. I'm not sure the moderators would allow another thread on this topic, but I think both you and the community at large would be better served if you started a separate review thread where you and possibly others could detail your first hand experiences with AD. IMO a fact based thread that is free of exaggerations and innuendo would be much more compelling than anything we've seen here.

 

[S-B]

Yours is the first piece of real substance in this thread. It's unfortunate that your post has to be buried on page 17 within a thread started by someone with his own set of credibility issues because you appear to have a legitimate complaint. I'm not sure the moderators would allow another thread on this topic, but I think both you and the community at large would be better served if you started a separate review thread where you and possibly others could detail your first hand experiences with AD. IMO a fact based thread that is free of exaggerations and innuendo would be much more compelling than anything we've seen here.

Part 2 to come.

Hint: It's about Niche Websites.

 

[hawkeye]

What will happen if we all click on the ad?

Well, if everyone clicks on the ad at the same time...Confetti will fall from the sky! (and then everyone will be charged $29.95)

 

[biggie]

First, I am not trying to be a savior of Adam.


The point being, that none of us are still aware of "exact facts" and that's what I know.

Again, I am not trying to be a savior of Adam but that goes for you and others too, who are blindly participating in a publicity stunt, and who are being an element of entertainment for few.

really?

what about the publicity stunts to get the hopeful signed-up....

the video's, the articles, the co-signers, the promises

was that entertainment or an education, produced by, for whom, for what....

to reach this point, which is a point, that shouldn't have to be pointed out, if one would ever get satisfaction, without it?

imo...

 

[GoWeb]

This is getting more interesting. I guess the situation is somwhat similar to this:

Police caught a Rapist when a girl lodged a complaint and when the news of rape broke out, tens of other girls started coming forward slowly and steadily with stories of how they were raped by the same man.

More people coming forward on the domainnamewire thread, revealing how they were dicked as well: http://domainnamewire.com/2015/10/06/thoughts-on-the-latest-domain-name-scandal/

Frank again confirms in the comments here that Adam has now paid back Uniregistry. What about all the others, the real common people? Think !!

Comments

1. 
   Jeff says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:13 am
   
   Thank you. I am among one of them and I have been in talks for months about get refunded and hope to get closure soon.
   
   Reply
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     jaqpot says
     
     October 6, 2015 at 10:30 am
     
     He(Dicker) did that to me too! He promised the world and never delivered! He promised to refund my $3,000 for FloridaLoan.com if he did not sell it at one of the Conferences. After the Conference, he said he did not say that…but I give you my promise he did!!
     
     Reply
2. 
   Domainer Extraordinaire says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:17 am
   
   The Emperor has no clothes. I sat in for one of his speeches at one of the domain name shows. He seemed to try too hard to convince people of his huge successes. I was curious about who he told us he sold a name to for mid 6 figures because I owned a similar name and checked whois 2 months later. He still owned it.
   
   Reply
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   Frank Schilling says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:20 am
   
   Adam’s debt has been paid in full and his credit is good at Uniregistry. I can not speak to other allegations made in the story and hope all outstanding issues will be resolved. A man’s reputation is worth far more than money.

 

[1NiteStand]

Order.. order! Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[S-B]

This is getting more interesting. I guess the situation is somwhat similar to this:

Police caught a Rapist when a girl lodged a complaint and when the news of rape broke out, tens of other girls started coming forward slowly and steadily with stories of how they were raped by the same man.

More people coming forward on the domainnamewire thread, revealing how they were dicked as well: http://domainnamewire.com/2015/10/06/thoughts-on-the-latest-domain-name-scandal/

Frank again confirms in the comments here that Adam has now paid back Uniregistry. What about all the others, the real common people? Think !!

Comments

1. 
   Jeff says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:13 am
   
   Thank you. I am among one of them and I have been in talks for months about get refunded and hope to get closure soon.
   
   Reply
   • 
     jaqpot says
     
     October 6, 2015 at 10:30 am
     
     He(Dicker) did that to me too! He promised the world and never delivered! He promised to refund my $3,000 for FloridaLoan.com if he did not sell it at one of the Conferences. After the Conference, he said he did not say that…but I give you my promise he did!!
     
     Reply
2. 
   Domainer Extraordinaire says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:17 am
   
   The Emperor has no clothes. I sat in for one of his speeches at one of the domain name shows. He seemed to try too hard to convince people of his huge successes. I was curious about who he told us he sold a name to for mid 6 figures because I owned a similar name and checked whois 2 months later. He still owned it.
   
   Reply
3. 
   Frank Schilling says
   
   October 6, 2015 at 10:20 am
   
   Adam’s debt has been paid in full and his credit is good at Uniregistry. I can not speak to other allegations made in the story and hope all outstanding issues will be resolved. A man’s reputation is worth far more than money.

5-figures in 12 hours.

Hmmm.

 

[Jen-Sin]

Uniregisty allows credit terms?

 

[S-B]

Uniregisty allows credit terms?

 

[Jaqpot]

I sent him a few domains to grade and he chose FloridaLoan.com. He told me that he can build a website for $3,000. I finally broke down and told him yes. I sent him the $3,000. He assign this job to one of his "employees" which never got in touch with me when I had a problem with the unfinished website. I would try to get a hold of Dicker but slow response! When, he did email or call back, it would always be " next week it should be done". That must of been 8,9,or 10 times that that when on. They still did not get the website right or done. One example was the telephone on the site was not mine or even a working number. I emailed or wrote to him(Facebook) over 6,7 time about the number but it was never corrected. He finally called me and told me that He will try to sell FloridaLoan.com for me at The Conference. And, if he didn't, he would refund my $3,000(this went on for over 6 months). I got in touch with him after the Conference and he told me that he never said he would refund my $3,000. I swear he did!!!!!!!

Thank you,

Victor

 

[carob]

So can we expect all Adam Dicker's domains to drop?

 

[S-B]

EDIT

 

[Charlie]

@Jaqpot
I had similar excuses to my requests also.I took to posting on the DNF College Facebook page when he was ignoring my Skype or emails and he would send a message for me to contact him and then he would delete the post from the group.

 

[carob]

He told me that he can build a website for $3,000. I finally broke down and told him yes. I sent him the $3,000. He assign this job to one of his "employees" which never got in touch with me when I had a problem with the unfinished website. I would try to get a hold of Dicker but slow response! When, he did email or call back, it would always be " next week it should be done". That must of been 8,9,or 10 times that that when on. They still did not get the website right or done.

The website or at least the WP theme seems to be built by http://agscybertech.com/
ref http://www.floridaloan.com/wp-content/themes/Florida_Loan/style.css
Though the site credits itself to http://www.dcg.com/

Have you tried contacting them directly? Did they get paid?

That is well, a massive price for that amount of work - did you try getting other quotes?

 

[HeyNow]

I'm assuming all these griping people, cannot afford a lawyer. All these stories would have qualified for criminal fraud. I would have imagined Adam being led out of a T.R.A.F.F.I.C conference in handcuffs.

Nonsense! On the contrary, he'd probably be asked to speak at other domainer conferences as a "guest speaker," then held in high esteem in the usual domain "news" webrags.

This business is a cesspool. I've been saying that for a long time.

 

[DU]

Where have you seen Shane saying AD is a criminal? You guys ever bother to read it properly? (not just yourself - seen some other folks in here jumping to this conclusion). It's like you asking someone "Are you stupid?" It doesn't mean you said the guy is stupid, does it?

http://www.npr.org/2014/04/01/29769...npr&utm_campaign=nprnews&utm_content=04012014

It's easier to post what you think when you don't have to actually think first..

Silence is probably per his lawyer's advice.

Everyone always assumes that the "I'll get my lawyer on to you" actually means something. It's like everyone has a personal lawyer on retainer. If there was a lawyer on retainer then the communication would already have taken place (that's what they would be retained for). In other words - most people who are going to use a lawyer would use a lawyer and not threaten the potential of using a lawyer. Usually it all ends when people find out how much lawyers charge - there appears to be a lot of small claims court type numbers here and that is hard when you're doing business with foreigners and you suck it up (Yes, I'm assuming that Canada is foreign for most - not sure if he's incorporated or not).

Domainers are cheap and look for cheap options - a profitable website for $3000? If it was that easy I'd have bought thousands by now. I hate to say it but the best scams are overpromising to people who don't lose too much and are partially embarrassed to have fallen for it. If you have a reputation then these people suffer in isolation because they don't want to call it out because of the backlash. The number of rip-off reports on the SEO/Small website business is ludicrous in general - why people think people like Adam or Rob Monster or Kevin Leto have some kind of magic bullet is beyond me. A lot of online success is smoke and mirrors and a lot of it is real but there's usually hard work, smarts, and work ethic behind the real. If it smells it smells.

It's why people like you stay and should be in business. People should look and work local - these people know their local market (if a small business) and are reachable, responsible and a part of the community. You pay what you get for. Why people don't go with trustworthy businesses and look for posts by members like you (they are here) is something I''ll never understand.

At minimum people should have contracts. Where are the contracts in these things? I sent Adam $3000 and he promised me a refund (I'm sure he SAID it) WTF? If I spend $300 I have a refund policy read out loud to me.

Large volume small value with plausible deniability... the bestest kind of scams.

Well, if everyone clicks on the ad at the same time...Confetti will fall from the sky! (and then everyone will be charged $29.95)

But don't wait. It's going to be $899 tomorrow unless you join the DU fanclub at which case I will broker your ad for just $299 saving you $600 on wholesale value.

 

[tld_org]

EDIT: Just read your article. The info about Adam may or may not be true but publishing Michael Cyger's conversation is dead wrong unless he gave you permission.
Why anyone would do business with you at this point is beyond me. Just the fact that you are going to hang them out to dry if things go bad would be enough for me. Again, not saying the info is wrong or right but harming Michael Cyger was unnecessary.

How is this harming Michael Cyger unless he did something he shouldn't have and now that is put in the spotlight? Mike seems like a very nice guy (based only on watching his shows), but that said the question I have is did Michael Cyger harm anyone? From the conversation text it seemed like Michael was aware that something was amiss for some undetermined period of time, but he still kept Adam on the show and kept Niche Websites as a sponsor and finally he had an overwhelming number of sources that said stuff that he finally decided to end the relationship, but still give him one last show.

In the professional world you should suspend the relationship once you heard allegations until you get the facts. But in this instance that did not look like what has happened, so how many people watched a Domain Sherpa show and as a result had dealings with Niche Websites or Adam that may cause them an issue? Seems like Cyger put his friendship first when he should have put the welfare of his readership/viewership first and he only took action when it was deemed absolutely necessary. Action should have been taken at the first rumblings, he shouldn't have needed sponsors, and sherpas, and people following the show, and others to all come to him before he did something.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

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