discuss IF YOU DONT OWN DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

[artstar]

Well after all the hype and hoopla and support ive had over the years trying to support other tlds its now time to admit, IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

Dot com dot com dot com

No other will do, no other will take its place, no other has its value, no other has a chance against it!!!

I don't care if its now or 20 years from now if you don't own the dot com you are setting yourself up for a loss period end of story!

So to all you newbies, save your $$$$ now and buy or hand reg ONLY dot coms cause if you don't you will find you messed up bigtime!

 

[joro001]

Let me think here for a minute

Buy Three Brand New Paganis for a domain name that I can get the same traffic for with the Gtld variant ... (with "good knowledge" on SEO) And or pay the price of the door handle to the Pagani or Mclaren

Let me think about that ... Lol.

That amazes me. And it should to anyone. Quit discussing investor notions as we already know the names are not .com ... They never were trying to be ... Discuss these names to companies like Barclays who decided to buy Home.Barclays because the owner of Home.com wants a "miniature skyscraper" for his name or in aspects of automotives, a Bugatti 57SC, same one owned by Ralph Lauren ... Lmao

These are not assumptions ! These are stone cold facts.

Completely agree.

The reality is most end users couldn't care less about domains and won't spend much on them.
Many see domains as an annoying expense somewhat similar to web hosting which you need to pay for to have an online presence but that's it.

Yes some end users see the value in a premium .com but generally those that do are going for the uber premium names not decent/average .coms which you'll be lucky to clear $500 for most times whether it is a .com, cctld or GTLD. Of course some exceptions show middle of the road names selling big but % wise it doesn't happen that often.

The chinese market has crashed as well but still is pretty buoyant for really short and liquid domains, e.g. 2l.coms, 2/3n.coms etc. Whether this will continue forever having such crazy demand is another matter depending partly if more Chinese investors keep exiting (some big guns have left already).

I myself was looking at a .com for a business venture and the owner was being inflexible and I knew I would have to pay big to get it. My reaction was to make a mid $xxx final offer and failing that move on and buy another domain and save that money for traffic that I can drive to the other domain.

This is exactly what i've done and haven't looked back, I am happy with the decision. Herein lies the problem for domainers going forward, too many options and your Barclays example is another good point to show how domainers simply can't hold businesses to ransom anymore to pay up or else. There are all kinds of alternatives out there and more coming by the day.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

Completely agree.

The reality is most end users couldn't care less about domains and won't spend much on them.
Many see domains as an annoying expense somewhat similar to web hosting which you need to pay for to have an online presence but that's it.

Yes some end users see the value in a premium .com but generally those that do are going for the uber premium names not decent/average .coms which you'll be lucky to clear $500 for most times whether it is a .com, cctld or GTLD. Of course some exceptions show middle of the road names selling big but % wise it doesn't happen that often.

The chinese market has crashed as well but still is pretty buoyant for really short and liquid domains, e.g. 2l.coms, 2/3n.coms etc. Whether this will continue forever having such crazy demand is another matter depending partly if more Chinese investors keep exiting (some big guns have left already).

I myself was looking at a .com for a business venture and the owner was being inflexible and I knew I would have to pay big to get it. My reaction was to make a mid $xxx final offer and failing that move on and buy another domain and save that money for traffic that I can drive to the other domain.

This is exactly what i've done and haven't looked back, I am happy with the decision. Herein lies the problem for domainers going forward, too many options and your Barclays example is another good point to show how domainers simply can't hold businesses to ransom anymore to pay up or else. There are all kinds of alternatives out there and more coming by the day.

I also think you're incredibly right ! I am sure you know of LL.com that actually means something ... Won't say specifics, but use your imagination in terms of what every technology company is boasting about in today's news if you can't figure it out, PM me ...

Well I presented that name to Microsoft at the same time they were buying LinkedIn out; lol.
"What a waste of money."

Microsoft said "it's not too rich for us at the moment but we also are aware of the Gtld market." Lol that's coming from a company that spent $26.2B to acquire LinkedIn.

Boggles my mind honestly.

 

[NamesBond]

Wired.com: .Com Is The Choice of VC Backed Startups

Why .Com is the Venture Capital Community's Power Player


THE VENTURE CAPITAL (VC) community is well aware of the value of a great domain name. In a recent essay, Paul Graham, venture capitalist and co-founder of the Y Combinator seed capital firm said, “The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness.” It’s no wonder that 100 percent of the top 20 Y Combinator companies by valuation have the .com of their name.

Recent data shows that .com is the most popular domain extension for funded startups. That’s because its global recognition and unmatched security, stability and reliability lends instant credibility to brands associated with a .com domain name.

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The article goes on to quote Legendary domain investor Mike Mann...

Why is .com preferred by startups? “At the heart of the question is the level of familiarity and comfort level that people have with the .com domain extension,” said Mike Mann, CEO and founder of SEO.com and one of the world’s best known domain investors. Mann and many other domain and SEO experts agree that a long .com domain name is better, more memorable and less confusing to consumers than a short domain name on a lesser-known domain extension.


Mic drop...

 

[Jon B]

Mic drop...

The value of the "mic drop" just hit an all time low.

 

[GoKaizen]

Agree with Wired article, it is sponsored content.

 

[Chris Rice]

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The Cebuano language, also colloquially referred often by most of its speakers simply as Bisaya ("Visayan"; not to be confused with other Visayan languages), is an Austronesianregional language spoken in the Philippines by about 20 million people, mostly in Central Visayas, eastern Negros Island Region, western parts of Eastern Visayas and most parts of Mindanao, most of whom belong to the Visayan ethnic group.[4] It is the most widely spoken of the languages within the so-named Visayan language family and is closely related to other Filipino languages.

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