discuss Idea: GoDaddy Expiring Domains - Take One For Free, Give One Away

[MapleDots]

GoDaddy Expiring Domains - Take One For Free, Give One Away - Support your fellow domainers

Do you have any domain names sitting at GoDaddy that you will not be renewing?

Why let HugeDomains and the likes suck them up

Why let GoDaddy profit on your domains

GoDaddy makes money on the domains when they go to expiring auctions and we as the domainers bid against each other to get them back. Companies like Huge Domains suck them up and the whole domaining industry suffers.

If you have no use for the domain, why not eliminate the middle man and give the domain to your fellow domainer.

Maybe we can use a central topic like this where anyone can post their expiring godaddy domains and allow other members to claim them for free.

I understand we can each make a topic for this but it would be nice to have a centralized area where we could keep track of all of them.

Additionally it would be nice if a mod could put this topic into a section where everyone can update their post at any time when the domains get claimed.

Thoughts about this by anyone?

 

[tonyk2000]

Why not just sell for 1-5 dollars

Must be paypal then... extra time to manage, not all members do use or have paypal (country restrictions), and paypal should be used carefully if one really trades with it (if the account is not used to receive affiliate or marketplace mass payments exclusively), and if somebody was paid with stolen $$$ for something - and receiving account then spent $1 to buy a domain - paypal may lock all the accounts "chain" someday, so having $1-$5 transactions is somewhat risky - no real profit but extra chances to have an account locked. And, in any case, it is a different method to unload expiring domains which may be used regardless of what is discussed in this thread

 

[bluemeteor]

You're missing my point a bit @bluemeteor

Remember I am talking about domains you have already decided to drop which means all this has been tried and you have made the decision to drop the domain.

All I am saying is please don't drop them because it hands profits to godaddy and hugedomains. Give the domains back to the community and let another domainer make an attempt to profit on those domains instead of surrendering them to godaddy.

If only one member hits a homerun and sells one of those domains for 10k then we kept those funds out of the godaddy/afternic monopoly and allowed a fellow domainer to have a good year.

Maybe someone would like to have them all cos they he see value in them, while some people might just collect them cos they ar free for even a shot time, while most people would not want them. It would probably end up like one out of 100 names get transsferred, other 99 still go to godaddy, if one domain for one member.

 

[bluemeteor]

Besides, pasting the names, following the threads, logining to push, all these actions take time. Think about how much you could earn per hour. Why border?

 

[MapleDots]

Besides, pasting the names, following the threads, logining to push, all these actions take time. Think about how much you could earn per hour. Why border?

Why bother?

If we all think like that eventually godaddy will own everything, they will end up buying out huge domains and all we will be left with are the scraps. Together we are still bigger than godaddy, and together we can take part of the business back.

 

[MapleDots]

As much as I like that idea it would probably be doomed to failure because domains could be 1-2 days away from the drop. We give them to another domainer and he has to renew pretty fast. Typically we tend to delay to the bitter end on drops and if we complicate things godaddy gets them anyways.

We should just try a few different ways and see what happens.

Post the domain, expiry, and registrar

Ask who wants them, make your decision and be done.

The more we keep out of the hands of godaddy and the likes the better of for it we will be as a community.

 

[tonyk2000]

domains could be 1-2 days away from the drop

Not all, hopefully. I know what I would not renew up to 3-4 month in advance, and domains 1-2 days should better not be included at all into the lists...

 

[MapleDots]

Not all, hopefully. I know what I would not renew up to 3-4 month in advance, and domains 1-2 days should better not be included at all into the lists...

HeHe.... you, me and some of the other organized folks here plan well in advance.

That leaves hundreds of noobs who have no idea what domaining is about and they give it no thought until a few days to renewal time. If we can get them to participate it will keep thousands of domains out of godaddy hands. We keep it plain and simple, if they claim a domain it automatically gets renewed for a year and we succeed in keeping the domain away from godaddy for another year. Multiply this by thousands of domains over many years and we single handily take back a large chunk of our own market.

 

[golan]

Good idea, But why only GD? Could be as well any registrar.

 

[MapleDots]

Because godaddy is the biggest, godaddy now not only controls the godaddy auction but also afternic.

I have my suspicion it's only a matter of time before they buy out huge domains or something else really big.

They are a runaway train and we have to be careful to hand them too much power.

 

[MapleDots]

Yes, I have a few pm's where I was asked about a small fee.... lets say 5 or 10 bucks but I have to reiterate that what I am talking about here is already past that.

I am talking about domains where we have done everything to sell and the decision to drop has been made.

Now the question is why drop it, give it away to a member, it does keep it away from godaddy. Maybe one day godaddy has to pay us 5 bucks to get these domains because why should they be the only one to profit from expires. Imagine.... we give them the domain and they sell it for 1k or something. There is no thank you or kickback to the domainer.

In our own system if I got a free domain and made 1k I might be inclined to give a little kickback to the domainer that was so kind to give it to me.

 

[MapleDots]

Remember, not all domains that you give for free will be taken here. Since all of us want something that has a fast return value, many unclaimed free domains will expire and go to GD auctions or get snatched by HD.

That is true but those are the domains we won't be bidding on at godaddy anyways. The ones other domainers will snatch up for free are the ones we would have bid on at expiring auction.

The big difference is that now the profits stay in our community instead of in godaddy's bank account.

 

[MapleDots]

Looking for feedback from members here

 

[Joe N]

Fantastic idea! I agree that there need to be some limits in place. I think that:

1. Members should have been at NP for 1+ years to make a claim.
2. Only one claim per member per 24 hours should be allowed.

 

[MapleDots]

Fantastic idea! I agree that there need to be some limits in place. I think that:

1. Members should have been at NP for 1+ years to make a claim.
2. Only one claim per member per 24 hours should be allowed.

Valid point but you have to keep in mind that some members here have vast inventories and it only takes a couple of members to house clean and hundreds of domains can go to drop. Combine that with all the noobs and we could theoretically have thousands of domains per month.

Being too restrictive means a lot of domains would be left over and hit the drop. That means godaddy would make the profits from those instead of another member. The object is to keep them here with the members.

Mind you we could make a couple of sections.... ie.

Domains expiring in over 3 months

Domains expiring in under 3 months

The ones in under 3 months could have a higher giveaway rate where 1 person could pick up several per day while the over 3 months ones could have tighter limits.

If I look at my domains, I flag my spreadsheet well in advance for the domains I'm going to drop. I don't think I would give any away with over 3 months dating though just in case a buyer comes along.

At under 3 months I could theoretically let a few dozen go at a time and I don't wan't to restrict them too much because if the expiry comes along and they are not all grabbed then they go to expiry.

Remember the object is to give them away, we want to encourage another domainer to register them so that they do not drop or got to Huge Domains. I don't know about you but if someone sold one of my drops I would be very happy for them but if one of my drops fetched 1k at auction or huge domains then I would be a bit peeved because the last thing I want to do is to contribute to their profit margins.

Keep them in domainer hands and let a fellow domainer reap a profit. Just because I could not sell the domain does not mean another domainer can't. He may know just the right end user for my drop.

 

[Name Trader]

Ok. I posted my available domain on Free Domains Names and it was picked up in 9 minutes. https://www.namepros.com/threads/sold.1076818/#post-6676016

 

[Name Trader]

Err.. link changed.. https://www.namepros.com/threads/claimed.1076818/#post-6676044

 

[MapleDots]

Is there a thread for this to post already? Typically I don't have any domains at GoDaddy

Thank you

It can be any domain, I was just using godaddy auction as an example of where we don't want the domains. As in letting them profit instead of a member.

THE OTHER THING IS DON'T DO A PUSH BECAUSE THE MEMBER CAN STILL DROP THE DOMAIN. You want to give the transfer code so you are assured the domain gets renewed and not dropped.

I am just now working with the namepros staff to decide where to put the topics so the owners can edit the posts and keep them updated without a time limit.

 

[BrandMart]

THE OTHER THING IS DON'T DO A PUSH BECAUSE THE MEMBER CAN STILL DROP THE DOMAIN. You want to give the transfer code so you are assured the domain gets renewed and not dropped.

This will keep the domain alive and can change owners, keeping GD and HD out of the game. I think this idea will work, but not many would want to pay extra for a free giveaway. Since it's a free domain giveaway, people want it for free. Auth codes mean investment and some may skip it

 

[anantj]

This will keep the domain alive and can change owners, keeping GD and HD out of the game. I think this idea will work, but not many would want to pay extra for a free giveaway. Since it's a free domain giveaway, people want it for free. Auth codes mean investment and some may skip it

Which should be fine as the entire point is to get the domain out of the GD/HD ecosystem

 

[MapleDots]

This will keep the domain alive and can change owners, keeping GD and HD out of the game. I think this idea will work, but not many would want to pay extra for a free giveaway. Since it's a free domain giveaway, people want it for free. Auth codes mean investment and some may skip it

If a domain has a week left and is pushed then the new owner can still decide drop it and that defeats the whole purpose of the exercise. We can let the domains drop ourselves, we want to assure the domains stay within the domainers hands so transfer codes are the only way to assure that.

Still... everything is a debate at this point and now is the time to get involved and shape the outcome.

Chime in, don't be shy because we have a unique opportunity to shape this part of the forum to our vision. Namepros is willing to work with us to put something into place.

Remember just because a decision gets made does not mean it can't be tweaked, it's a bit of a learning curve to find out what works best.

 

[Name Trader]

I think trying to convince a recipient to accept the domain at a registrar other than GoDaddy is going to be very difficult, unless they are an experienced domainer. Not only because, they are probably not going to want the domain in the first place, probably because of it's quality.

 

[MapleDots]

With the transfer code it is irrelevant where the domain comes from because it ends up where you want. The godaddy push could be discussed with domains at godaddy but noobs might no realize the domain is not renewed unless they add a renewal to the pushed domain.

 

[Name Trader]

@MapleDots - I think your expectations are way too high to expect most people attracted to an unwanted free domain, to accept a transfer away from GoDaddy when their main registrar is GoDaddy.

Actually, I think the whole premise of this thread, to transfer unwanted domains away from GoDaddy, by people who are probably less experienced than yourself, by giving them a free domain is preposterous. And extremely limiting. IMHO.

I was onboard up to that point. But now I think this can be handled by the existing Free Domain Name forum. The domain I had, see link above, was taken within 9 minutes of posting in the Free Domain Forum.

 

[Name Trader]

They already have immense power and dominate the market. Almost every end user wants a transfer to godaddy and very rarely will accept a push to the current registrar, if not GD. Even if this idea gets traction I don't see how it could put much of a dent in GDs business.

This idea is dead in the water. There won't be any traction. There is no demand from the users end. All the demand is from the suppliers end, with an agenda. Means no traction, and can be handled by the existing forums.

Don't get me wrong. I don't like GoDaddy as a Registrar. Any domains I win at auction are transferred immediately the 60 day hold expires. I don't wait 1 year to make that decision.

 

[MapleDots]

You guys are not getting it exactly

I am not saying transfer away from godaddy..... the recipient of the domain can go anywhere they want.

We want to keep the domains out of godaddy auction hands. In other words, ok for a member to put to auction but godaddy gets all the domains if they sit at that registrar and they expire. They then send them to expiring auction and 100% of the profits stay at godaddy. If a member puts that domain on auction then the member gets 80% and godaddy only 20%.

You can give away any domains but we for sure want to keep all the ones sitting at godaddy to come back to domainer hands. Imagine all the free money godaddy gets when OUR domains expire.

That said a push of the domain then solves nothing because the recipiant (who gets it for free) may still not renew it. Therefore giving him the transfer code assures he has to renew it for at least a year effectively keeping it out of godaddy hands.

That said it can be applied to any domain at ANY registrar but it is especially important with domains at godaddy because that company is getting to be the monster in the room and soon they will call all the shots and dig deeper and deeper into our domaining business.

Together we can at least partially tame that giant by keeping some of the profits in our pockets.