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I am a bit concerned using hyphens or not in my domains for .mobi. It seperates a keyword better it seems for search engine purposes but is it practical to have one especially in a new .mobi domain name? I think people like less to type in when entering domain urls and the smaller the domain name the better. What are your thoughts on this?

Also what about pluralizing? Does it matter?

Thx
 
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hyphens kill the value big time. Plural may reduce or add value depending on the word. Put them through wordtracker to get a better idea.
 
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Hehe just looking at Reece's signature down the bottom will give you a better understanding whether or not to reg a hyphenated name. It largely depends on what name it is you reg, Like antioxidants you may want to reg the both of them to cover yourself!!
 
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panman said:
Hehe just looking at Reece's signature down the bottom will give you a better understanding whether or not to reg a hyphenated name. It largely depends on what name it is you reg, Like antioxidants you may want to reg the both of them to cover yourself!!

Yes, if you plan on developing a site, I certainly wouldn't want some guy to reg anti-oxidants.mobi and steal 1-5% of my traffic (estimate). For what it costs, protecting your name (including common typos for certain names) should be a top priority :)
 
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Reece said:
Yes, if you plan on developing a site, I certainly wouldn't want some guy to reg anti-oxidants.mobi and steal 1-5% of my traffic (estimate). For what it costs, protecting your name (including common typos for certain names) should be a top priority :)
And here I thought I was the only one doing that. I think it is important to hoard your keywords and common typos for sites you want to develop just to keep out a coat-tailer. One way to test the viability of the non hyphenated version is to search for it. For example, if you google flightdelays, it will ask if you want flight delays. So it knows that it is 2 separate words. So if I were going to build a site there, I would reg flightdelay(s) and flight-delay(s). The site would be on the non hyphenated name with the greatest wordtracker score and the others would either redirect or have a link to the main site (I prefer the link so I can get server stats on the alternate names). In rare and extreme cases I would reg all possible combinations of the keywords delayflight(s), delay-flight(s), flight(s)delay, flight(s)-delay, etc. simply to hoard the keywords from a competitor.

I've done this once with a .mobi on a 8 letter (9 plural) 2 word term that is potentially mobile relevant and has the following wordtracker daily search prediction results:

word1 word2s - 11,252
word1 word2 - 1,991
word1word2s - 854
word1word2 - 402

All combined that's over 400,000 searches a month predicted. Wowza! I hope it carries over to mobile. Considering the worst one still represents over 12,000 searches a month it was worthwhile regging all combinations IMO. Site is under construction, go live hopefully soon.
 
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I don't think the hyphen matters too much, most users will never need to type it in
anyway to find your website. For instance, someone searching for "do it" on google
will get "do-it.org.uk" as the first result. Once a user has visited the website and
saved the url to their personal 'favorites' list then that's it, no typing of the "-" is
ever required to find that website, ever.

I've just purchased my first hyphenated domain, Jet-Ski.mobi

It's keywords that matter, not the hyphen in my opinion.
 
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Zinc said:
I don't think the hyphen matters too much, most users will never need to type it in
anyway to find your website. For instance, someone searching for "do it" on google
will get "do-it.org.uk" as the first result. Once a user has visited the website and
saved the url to their personal 'favorites' list then that's it, no typing of the "-" is
ever required to find that website, ever.

I've just purchased my first hyphenated domain, Jet-Ski.mobi

It's keywords that matter, not the hyphen in my opinion.
From a search perspective I think you are correct, but it does limit type in traffic.
 
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- is no good for end users / visitors
if both are available, reg both and redirect hypenated to the other one
 
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True, I think anyone developing a mobile website or service would be foolish to rely soley on type in traffic at this point in the game, even with a non-hypenated domain.

Unless of course, you're lucky enough to have one of those ultra premiums parked up.
 
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reg both if you very like them.
 
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Zinc said:
I don't think the hyphen matters too much, most users will never need to type it in
anyway to find your website. For instance, someone searching for "do it" on google
will get "do-it.org.uk" as the first result. Once a user has visited the website and
saved the url to their personal 'favorites' list then that's it, no typing of the "-" is
ever required to find that website, ever.

I've just purchased my first hyphenated domain, Jet-Ski.mobi

It's keywords that matter, not the hyphen in my opinion.


That is exactly what I want to hear! Thanks for all your comments! I am about to reg 50 new names many and with hyphens if thats the case.
 
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VisionEdger said:
That is exactly what I want to hear! Thanks for all your comments! I am about to reg 50 new names many and with hyphens if thats the case.

If you plan on developing, hyphens are okay. You will definitely not get rich or anything close to it attempting to flip hyphenated words however, even if .mobi becomes the next .com -- a quick look over an DNJournal.com will confirm this statement.
 
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Reece said:
If you plan on developing, hyphens are okay. You will definitely not get rich or anything close to it attempting to flip hyphenated words however, even if .mobi becomes the next .com -- a quick look over an DNJournal.com will confirm this statement.

Well, it's still early days yet. It's pretty obvious that three letters, numbers, premium singulars and plurals will be the first to sell. Looking down the road, I think they'll eventually be a reasonable market for good hyphenated mobis.

Nice to see our little .mobi rubbing shoulders with big brother .com at the Las Vegas Traffic auctions, now... what's going to happen when the business sector is introduced to domains at Traffic NY?
 
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