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HugeDomains.com is Buying 50%+ of Expiring Domains at GoDaddy.com

Discussion in 'Domain Expiration and Domain Drop Catching' started by Arca, Dec 9, 2016.

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  1. barefooted

    barefooted Established Member

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    No (according to WHOIS.) .


    Estibot may be not correct but it is useful to quick filter 2000 out of 30000 names daily, I think there is some reason a domain to have Estibot value, no matter how high - it may be aged, or have good keywords etc.

    I checked my non-Estibot list for Oct - Nov (won GD expired domains auctions) - HD have 112 out of 2,300 .com names, w/o numbers or hyphens.
     
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  2. garptrader

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    In theory better quality names will attract more offers and as long as they are reasonably priced should sell at a higher rate than a portfolio of average drops. However acquisition costs do factor into the equation as end users get really picky when a domain is priced over $1500. One has to gauge what is a reasonable end user price for this caliber of name, what are the odds of this name selling over a period of five to ten years and how much can one spend to acquire such a name and still come out ahead given that sales ratios are typically around one percent while marketplace commissions are around twenty p e recent. I am not convinced the examples listed above are going to work for HD.
     
  3. platey

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    some of those domains quoted in thread post bought by hd are still extremely cheap even at hd asking price and of very high quality to a .com investor of which there are many
     
  4. Doughmange

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    crablab @ $300+
    motoled @ $200+
    itace @ $500+
    cbdfinder @ $271

    No sir, I disagree with you wholeheartedly. That's $1200 in wasted purchased there alone.

    Sure, you are going to give me justifications on why these are worth the money, but you are wrong.

    HugeDomains has never been a real expert at picking targeted names, they mainly just pick wide swaths of domains based on certain loose criteria and have at it.

    They must be spending $ on before the tax year is over, this nonsense won't continue. It would be extremely foolish on their part.
     
  5. Grilled

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    Not sure if this domain should have been included as a waste.

    THCFinder.com & WeedFinder.com both developed.

    When CBD has more of a medical user base who sometimes struggle to find the right CBD blends. Not to mention that you can purchase CBD (without THC) legally in every state. Time will tell if they get their $1,995 ask.
     
  6. Michael Ehrhardt

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    Thanks for this info
    Great job

    But why even try to buy drop domains ?

    There are thousands of good domains free to register

    Cheap and easy ( 1£ )

    I only once bought a domain ( nexusm.com ) at GD auction ( got it around 300$ )
    in 2011 ( nexusm was a company in canada sold to asia )
    love the combination ( nexus = connection / m = media )

    since than i register only ❗️ ( 99.3 % )
     
  7. Doughmange

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    As you said, you can purchase CBD (without THC) legally in every state, you don't need much of a finder because of that.

    I'm, just not into the 'CBD' trend as most folk who are hoping that a recent high CBD sale will propel the namespace into some decent sales. Especially with the new guard coming in who loves the war on drugs just the way it is.
     
  8. premkumar

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    May be we should get together and bid useless name and Hugedomain may bleed. I believe such bidding by them are automatic and not manual. They try to get good name without doing the hardwork of analyzing whether it good or not. Basically they get names on the hard work of domainers
     
  9. stub

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    And you decided to join this capitalist business? :)
     
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    I hardly see anything worth buying here on NP :(
     
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    I beg to differ. I doubt that.
     
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    [QUOTE="Doughmange, post: 5879348, member: 987522"So far I have only lost 1 auction to HD, and that was for "coffeeboys.com". It's such a crap name that they could have it for whatever price over $70 USD it finalized at.

    The interesting thing about HD is that they still are picking garbage over quality. As an investor I would not pay what they are paying for names on the GD platform that would likely never sell to an end user.

    They should stick to their model of paying almost nothing for drops and playing the averages; they aren't ready to handle this model.

    It's likely an experiment.[/QUOTE]

    I actually like coffeeboys.com. But I couldn't find it on HD.

    It maybe. But I don't think it's an experiment.
     
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    In volume maybe, but not in price.
     
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    Yap I decide to drink the toxic and let see if my body could adapt to it...
     
  15. krx

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    They're not squeezing us by lowering the retail price but by raising the wholesale price. Either way our profit margin shrinks.
     
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    I'm going to be making more money by raising my prices :)
     
  17. platey

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    cyberstrategies.com is worth a fortune as the internet is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things etc and cyber strategies will change over time as the internet continues to develop

    the ideal buyer for cyber strategies .com won't much care what price they buy that domain for as money won't be an issue

    plus the domain industry has a variety of different investment strategies eg some like to flip etc numbers gtlds but cyber strategies is perfect for a long term .com investor

    skillsharing.com is great for a tech idea concept and could become the next big thing but if people started sharing skills there would be no need for universities etc as people would Lear for free and share their skills for free and the ad $'s would be considerable possibly in the billions

    i am a tech ideas / tech concept guy and the domain has to be a self explanetary .com and skillsharing.com is perfect for such a concept and easy to do and the potential founder will get rounds of funding so the price paid for the domain won't matter as long as its the right .com and that is
     
  18. Doughmange

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    Thanks for that, but "cyber" is such an outdated term; only 3 sales this year with the term 'cyber' over $5k.

    Also, SkillShare is much more desirable than SkillSharing.
     
  19. garptrader

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    Well at least for now HD is only going after expiring .COM domains...
     
  20. wwwweb

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    Who is this Indian domainer? I think I know of 1 who is pretty active, can't remember his name. That is quite a big investment, unless it's all closeouts.
     
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    They don t use just a script, they use AI. The input from bidders make them evaluate the domain name. They have a maximum price that they stop bidding of course.
    Now about their strategy, no it is not profitable and it is not sustainable. Some said that they are profitable if we consider their dropcatch activity. But this is not business logic. Each sector is considered independently. No one wants to throw money out of the window, even if there is cash. And tax reasons isn t the cause also. Companies always prefer taxed profits from real losses.
    I can find only three logical explanations. The first is that the management is messed up/miscalculated. Or it is an expirement as many mentioned, they try to improve their AI algorithms. If this is the case then they will see them stop this tactic soon.
    The second is that they want to keep the oversaturation in .com. Because they have a large-better say huge-portfolio in this extension, they try to keep the extention as it is and keep or even drive the prices up.
    Finally, there is a third, shady scenario. They have a special deal with GD. They are customers and at the same time brokers. GD pays them a very large fee of the profit(margin) of what they pay and the last bidder (the price that the domain would be sold if HG did not interfere). In the extreme , even almost all. In this case the HG buys the domain nearly where the last bidder would have bought it. And of course again keeps the market saturated and the prices for end users hight.
    But why GD would agree on such a thing? Or why didn t do that himself, someone could argue. Well, GD surely would t risk doing that on his own, the risk is to high.If got caught it will ruin his fame. With the help of HD he keeps caching renewal fees, get fees if the domain is sold in the future from is platform and, most importantly, he keeps his large market share on registrar's pie. Of course the agreement has as a condition for HG to not change the registrar for these domains and also list them for selling to GD s platform (not exclusively).
    Of course the last scenario is just a theory. But the numbers are large and the money big. Everything is possible in life and domaing industry.
     
  22. Asfas1000

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    While this is a plausible scenario, I don't think the numbers are so big as to justify risking their reputation.
     
  23. Nat Hunt

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    With Huge Domains spending this much money on GoDaddy auctions, I think it is likely they have negotiated a deal. Maybe GoDaddy only charges them 50% on any auctions they win. Who knows? It seems likely there is some sort of deal worked out.

    Pretty much any time one business does an abnormal amount of deals with another business, they are going to seek special accommodations.

    Of course, I am just speculating but it seems likely to me anyway.
     
  24. urlurl

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    if they are offering them a deal i don't think they would risk a discount on the sale price. More likely a kick back, rebate or a separate incentive. Then if it was ever discovered they could always come back and say it was just a loyalty incentive for a big client.
     
  25. carob

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    And people stupidly putting in an early first bid on a name attracts bids, as others have said in this thread. Be interesting to see if those early bidders ever actually buy.
     

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