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Huge drop in # of indexed pages - reason?

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Hi all. I’m quite new to NP, and completely new to this forum, so I apologize if this seems like a dumb question or one that’s been covered before (though I’ve scanned and haven’t seen anything similar).

For almost 5 years now I’ve “operated” a real estate oriented website where people advertise properties for sale. I’d rather not identify it, but it’s like a much, much smaller version of ForSaleByOwner.com. I put the word “operated” in quotation marks because my knowledge base is pretty low. I had the great domain name, and the concept for how the site would look and work, but I have no technical programming skills or knowledge base whatsoever. The site was programmed by my son while he was a college student. Anytime there’s some type of glitch, which fortunately doesn’t happen too often, I still have to rely on him (but website design isn’t his area of expertise either).

Over the years, there’s been several times when I’ve run the Google “site command” to see how many of my site’s pages were indexed, and generally it’s been fairly stable at just under 2,000 pages. Most of the pages, like for individual states and ads, are dynamically generated. I checked a couple of weeks ago, and it was at about that same level. For some reason I checked a few days later, and it said there were only 21 pages indexed. A few days after that it was down to 19 – that’s one heck of a drop!

With my son’s assistance, we did get Google Analytics installed, but it doesn’t reveal any problems. He’s also in the process of getting a sitemap submitted (but we haven’t had one up until now and it doesn’t seem to have hurt us much). Anyone have any ideas as to what might have caused this huge drop in the number of pages indexed?

And here’s another thing that seems puzzling. I often run searches to see how we’re doing in the search engines, for example, something like “property for sale in New York” – and then I do the same search but for other states. For many states, we often come out in the top 5 or so. When I do these searches now, there are fewer states that we show up for, but we still do show up in the top 5 for quite a few, even for states where that “state page” isn’t among the 19 total that Google now says it has indexed. Is it normal for a page to show up in the search results if it doesn’t show up as being indexed at all?

Sorry for the way-too-long post, but anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks much.
 
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Google's search engine is made out of two indexes - main and supplemental. When someone performs a search, results from the main index are being shown first (high PR pages, optimized, popular, old). The pages in the supplemental index are kind of "on the side" and they are being shown only if the main index can't show enough results (for rare keywords mostly).
I guess that those 20 pages of your site are in the main index and that's why they are shown when looking for indexed pages. The rest is probably in the supplemental index.

If you want to move your pages from S to M, you'll have to build links for them (or in simple terms, increase their visibility, popularity). They will eventually migrate.

I think this answers both of your questions.
 
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dmi, thanks for taking the time to give input - I appreciate it. But a couple of things. You indicate pages in the main index are likely to be those that are the most popular. On my site, we have a separate "state page" for all US states and Canadian provinces. Only two of those pages are now among the 19 now indexed, and they're Northwest Territories and Alaska. And trust me, those are not among the most popular. (In five years we've never, ever had an ad from Northwest Territories.)

Also, the keywords that people would search for are not in the slightest bit rare - no more so, for example, than "condo" or "river" or "New York."

And could the two indexes explain why there was such a huge change almost overnight? We'd been sailing along for a lot of years with almost 2,000 pages indexed (at least just about everytime I checked), and then one day we're down to 20.
 
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"Popularity" is defined by Google. It doesn't matter what you think is popular or not. Those pages that you think aren't popular possible have a backlink from somewhere and Google makes it's decision based on that. Nothing to do with traffic.

The sudden loss of indexed pages just happens. You're not the first one, believe me. All you can do is to build backlinks.

dfunk said:
dmi, thanks for taking the time to give input - I appreciate it. But a couple of things. You indicate pages in the main index are likely to be those that are the most popular. On my site, we have a separate "state page" for all US states and Canadian provinces. Only two of those pages are now among the 19 now indexed, and they're Northwest Territories and Alaska. And trust me, those are not among the most popular. (In five years we've never, ever had an ad from Northwest Territories.)

Also, the keywords that people would search for are not in the slightest bit rare - no more so, for example, than "condo" or "river" or "New York."

And could the two indexes explain why there was such a huge change almost overnight? We'd been sailing along for a lot of years with almost 2,000 pages indexed (at least just about everytime I checked), and then one day we're down to 20.
 
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the same thing has happened to me over a peiod of time and each time given aome weeks the index volume returns .... just have patience
 
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It's normal and happended to many guys. Don't worry. make back links your site will get traffics soon back.
 
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