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By marketplaces here I am talking about sites like Dan and Sedo. I had names on both places for months without a single visit but immediately I changed ns to one I started seeing visits and sales.

So, basically, it seems they are just Landers. Am I missing something? If they are merely Landers, besides listing for accidental sales (e.g a person viewing one of your names and then end up viewing others), is it really worth listing?
 
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Very interesting replies. It seems like the issue with all these answers is that they're all biased (including mine below). Unless you can find someone that has an almost identical portfolio as yours to share their numbers, you're not going to get a conclusive answer.

For example, some portfolios may lean heavily towards made-up words in which case they won't see much search traffic across registrars/marketplaces. Others may rely on popular keywords and trends in which case they'll see a ton of search traffic. Every seller's portfolio is based on their own unique strategy so it's hard to compare numbers.

Additionally, every marketplace has a different marketing budget and the budget isn't always consistent over time which makes it even harder to predict the numbers.

All that said, I'm sure everyone here would agree on one thing. That more exposure is always better regardless of how much it is (i.e. you never know if that one dude or dudette on marketplace X ends up falling in love with your domain even though that marketplace only brought in 1% of the overall traffic). So more eyeballs are always better.

Now onto some useful data... Alter now has close to 4,000 brandable listings that all point to our nameservers (bias = brandable, although our inventory is pretty diverse). Since last month we've also been automatically listing our inventory with our partners.

Here's what our traffic breakdown looks like across the board for last month:
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Marketplace: Visitors learned about the domains from our marketplace.
Partners: Visitors learned about the domains via our partners (estimated).
Direct: Visitors learned about the domains by typing them in their browser.

Again, every seller's numbers will vary based on their own unique portfolio (if you're using Alter, you can see your personalized breakdown on your dashboard).
 
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By marketplaces here I am talking about sites like Dan and Sedo. I had names on both places for months without a single visit but immediately I changed ns to one I started seeing visits and sales.

So, basically, it seems they are just Landers. Am I missing something? If they are merely Landers, besides listing for accidental sales (e.g a person viewing one of your names and then end up viewing others), is it really worth listing?

If you started seeing visits and sales after you pointed your NS to Sedo, it looks like your traffic was from backlinks or search traffic, and not traffic via Sedo.

Did the traffic die off after a while?
 
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I think our replies are all rightfully subjective as no two portfolios are the same. There's no right or wrong answer here. Just find out what works for you by experimenting.
 
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I don't get you.

u do not get many people..I noticed in yer posts..plz..just pay more attention.. people give ya good tips here...and u get no bill for it.
 
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@Reyginus , indeed your original assumption is correct. With most marketplaces, where there is no partner network, you basically don't get sales unless you park with them (via nameserver).

There might be a sale here and there but basically sort of "by accident".

This is why I don't bother listing on marketplaces like that. Waste of time.

The only exception are Afternic and Sedo which will bring sales even if your nameservers point elsewhere, this is due to their partner network including hundreds of partner sites that sell your domains.

what??? u forgot the biggest of all..the king of all sales...gd auctions.. u can flush all others.
 
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u do not get many people..I noticed in yer posts..plz..just pay more attention.. people give ya good tips here...and u get no bill for it.
I mean your language. Your expression.
 
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People don't really visit them to search for names.
I think this is an oversimplification. Some people do search at Afternic, DAN, and Sedo (and at brandable marketplaces). That said, I suspect more do end up at a name either through a lander or the registration stream searches. A simple test is ask people what fraction of their sales are where the lander is. Definitely not 100%.

The simple point is why choose? There are many ways that people can find your domain names. Why not use as many as possible?

Bob
 
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People don't really visit them to search for names. It is the search for a name that leads them there.

Hi

sedo = Search Engine for Domain Owners

i've been using them since 2004 and do you really think "people" don't visit the site to search for names?

don't delve too deep into a shallow pool of thought
it's simple, either you change ns, or you don't
but if not, then no chance to earn any ppc

some names may sell there, and ns is pointed elsewhere
i have sold on afternic and name was pointed to sedo
have sold on sedo and name was pointed to bodis
have sold via email and name was pointed to voodoo.

marketplaces are there for you to take advantage of, it's your choice to use or not.

imo...
 
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OP i think most marketplaces are just escrow or lander providers. As a domainer/ buyer I do not visit a Sedo or Dan for searching brand names.
 
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The lander has always done the work and a marketplace has never marketed your domains. You might find some landers better and some better services etc but nobody is actively trying to sell your domains. The benefit is secure transfers and trust using known brands.
 
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I actually bought a domain off dan - don't see what's the problem with them.
 
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This year I sold domains on Afternic, Dan and Sedo while the nameservers of the domains were set to another marketplace. I sold a .eu domain on Dan while NSs were set to Sedo, and one .eu domain on Afternic(!) with NSs pointing to Dan (and Afternic price was higher than the one on Dan LOL).

The bottom line is that you need to list your domains at least on these 3 platforms, because you never know which can sell your domain. I personally use Dan as a lander, because I'm not very happy with the landers on the other platforms.
 
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The lander has always done the work

Hi

the domain, does the work, first!

how to get it is next,
that's where the lander or the "This Domain May Be For Sale" banner on ppc page,
or even the WhoIs data, that leads the potential to the contact info they seek.

then, the work is on you, again, to proceed accordingly.
because one had to put in work - to find, buy and list it,in order to see how useful a marketplace is, right?

imo...
 
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Nine times out of ten, most of your sales will come via the platform where your NS is pointed to. Which is why most brandable places insist that your NS must be pointed to them throughout the duration of your listing. So, in a way, most brandable marketplaces as well as places like Dan, Epik etc are basically glorified landing pages.

Having said that, there is that 1% chance that a sale can come through a marketplace despite not having your NS pointed to them; some more than others. Some marketplaces are popular in Europe like Sedo and Dan. Others, like Squadhelp, spend a lot of money on retargeted ADs. Not every sale comes from type-in traffic. Some sales even come in via Whois without any listing anywhere.

The general rule of thumb is to list at Afternic, choose where to point your NS like Epik, Sedo or Dan etc, then list everywhere else that allows non-exclusivity.

This is my experience as well. With names priced at $2,000+, only 0-2% per year have come from marketplaces with the nameservers not pointing to those marketplaces. It was so low, I just stopped doing it.

For me, 50-60% come from landers and 40-50% comes from Afternic (Premium network option)
 
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I create my own sales landers and use Dan as a buy now option.

Cheers
Corey
 
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Here is somethings to think about:

Switching the nameservers around occasionally between different platforms and Landers (including your own) might get the attention of crawlers specially if you make some changes in how your Landers look like.

Also deleting the domains occasionally and adding them again a little later on might get you some exposure from those who search and filter the platforms for newly added domains.

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that I used to do this a long time ago when I was a more active seller so in todays market these are just some theories that need to be tested to see if they make any difference in the results.

(Remember change the nameservers at your own risk.)

IMO
 
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