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Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief
 
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You discuss something that so many people forget, the value of their time. On the other hand, you can't know anyone circumstances, especially since www.Dont.net is based in India, where $150 buys a heck of a lot more that in the US where you are.

Correction :hi:
 
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There is some interest in this name.

My .mobi guy agreed to $300, just waiting for payment to go through. :$:

I think I received one of your broker emails! :)


Hi,

I am the official broker for the domain name

Allah.mobi

This domain is for sale for $12000 (usd)

Any transaction would need to be undertaken via escrow.com for a safe
transaction.


regards,

A*** K****
 
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Congrats!

Don't forget to include in your ROI calculation the opportunity cost of your time spent pursuing all prospects for that particular domain. For example, in my consulting business (unrelated to domaining) I charge anywhere from $150 to $250 per hour depending on the level of expertise I am providing to my clients. In my ROI calculations for domaining, I include the cost of my time in pursuing end users because there's a real opportunity cost there (i.e., I could be billing clients instead of domaining). To leave out the cost of your time is to be remiss. It's a real cost we should not ignore (ask any economics professor).

So, if you bill out at, say, $50 per hour in your normal line of work and you gained ownership of CheapFlutes.com for $47 and it took you three hours of your time ($150) to find suitable prospects, reach out to those prospects via emails, and then convert this one sale for $150, your ROI is actually negative. You may have been better off waiting for a better offer from a different end user or simply avoiding the purchase of that particular domain name in the first place because it never would have attracted a sale price that could adequately compensate you for your time spent trying to sell it.

Also, being a finance guy (I'm a CFA), I've seen a ton of people in all walks of life miscalculate their ROI%. Be sure to use this formula to get it right:

ROI% = 100 x [(Sale Price / Total Cost of Sales) - 1]

So, from my example above:

Sale Price = $150.00
Total Cost of Sales = $47.00 acquisition costs + $150.00 time selling = $197.00

ROI% = 100 x [($150 / $197) - 1] = -23.86%.

If this example is anywhere near your total cost of sales, selling for $150 was not a good deal for you. It was a great deal for the buyer though because he didn't even have to cover your costs of acquiring the domain name here on NamePros, making him aware the domain name existed, was for sale, negotiating the sale to a close, and transferring the domain to him.

killer post, I think many people forget time is money, I'll admit I rarely email end users as my best sales are when the buyer finds me first and they generally end up in the 1-10k range with no work put in besides getting the domains listed in the channels that target end users sedo, afternics distribution network, godaddy premium listings etc... I think it depends on the domain. If you hold .com keyword domains kicking your feet up waiting on the right end user brings a higher ROI as they inquired first so the best you can do is get your domains listed where end users shop. I think marketing lower quality domains through email can work as the perfect end user offer will probably never appear if the domain isn't premium. It's the equivalent of someone knocking on your door trying to sell you a vacuum for $600. You didn't leave the house looking for the vacuum so the odds of buying the vacuum are lower and you will probably be haggled down to $300. Where the person who wen't to the mall to buy the vacuum will pay tag price of $600 without a second thought. Also the reason keyword .com domains with type in traffic are so valuable as when a user shows intent and types in what they are looking for the sales ratio can't be beat. I think if your domains are not so hot take a sale anywhere you can get it email, forums etc... and clear the clutter. If your sitting on dead on keyword .com product related domains I think patience is your best friend.
 
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Totally agree on the issue of considering time in the ROI. IMO finding a good domain, finding potential end user contacts and marketing a domain requires considerable effort. Even if you pick up the domain for $10, selling it for $50 probably doesn't turn out to be a great ROI when one's time is considered. Remember, not all domains marketed will result in a sale. Perhaps in some cases, pricing names aggressively & utilizing Godaddy Premium Listings isn't a bad idea (no direct marketing effort involved)...
 
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Correction :hi:

bud, it's not about where you are based, it's about how much you value your time is worth. My time is limited and I have soo much do to throughout the day as I own a group of companies here in India & Australia, so I don't really think my time is worth pennies.. but of course living in India and earning in FOREX is pretty decent earning !!

And I put efforts into domaining only in my free time :P
 
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bud, it's not about where you are based, it's about how much you value your time is worth. My time is limited and I have soo much do to throughout the day as I own a group of companies here in India & Australia, so I don't really think my time is worth pennies.. but of course living in India and earning in FOREX is pretty decent earning !!

And I put efforts into domaining only in my free time :P

Good to see some Indian flying high, congrats man...
 
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Good to see some Indian flying high, congrats man...

Thanks bud, I'm not there yet (where I actually want to be) but will be soon enough!
Thanks to NP Community!
 
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Thanks bud, I'm not there yet (where I actually want to be) but will be soon enough!
Thanks to NP Community!

You will surely be there one day where you desire, all NPrs are with you...
 
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bud, it's not about where you are based, it's about how much you value your time is worth. My time is limited and I have soo much do to throughout the day as I own a group of companies here in India & Australia, so I don't really think my time is worth pennies.. but of course living in India and earning in FOREX is pretty decent earning !!

And I put efforts into domaining only in my free time :P

quite similar situation here. also seeking alternatives to my day job in domaining and FX.:blink:
 
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You will surely be there one day where you desire, all NPrs are with you...

Cheers :)

---------- Post added at 01:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:56 AM ----------

quite similar situation here. also seeking alternatives to my day job in domaining and FX.:blink:

There are opportunities everywhere bud, especially here.. so start away!
 
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hello, I have never use ebay or something like this for domain buying. We have some kinds of agent who arranges everything for use for buying domain. That's all and its so easy.
 
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hello, I have never use ebay or something like this for domain buying. We have some kinds of agent who arranges everything for use for buying domain. That's all and its so easy.

lol you're living in a world free of hassles & problems :D how much do yo actually pay to make it easy for you? :P
 
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Any suggestions or experience offering last name domains to end users?
 
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Hi People,

I own one .com domain and .de as sold for 1200$. I need you help to choose one good sales letter to send one email to the owner of .de domain. Anyone help me?

Best Regards
 
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Hi People,

I own one .com domain and .de as sold for 1200$. I need you help to choose one good sales letter to send one email to the owner of .de domain. Anyone help me?

Best Regards

I think you have enough sample letters around here, please read this thread carefully!!
And i fyou need broker, post your requirements in broker wanted forum.

good luck!
 
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where is the broker wanted forum?
 
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I know that many of you probably know this already but I will state it for those who might not know:
There are two tools available on Google that you can use to find potential endusers
1) The "more shopping" feature which can be accessed by clicking on "options" on the google search results page and scrolling down. ( I already mentioned this here some time ago and earned my first rep points ! :)
2) The google "wonder wheel" is also a good way to find companies & terms associated with your key word. This too can be found by clicking on "options" and scrolling down. I have found these to be quite helpful since I started using them. All the best!

adinfinite
 
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I know that many of you probably know this already but I will state it for those who might not know:
There are two tools available on Google that you can use to find potential endusers
1) The "more shopping" feature which can be accessed by clicking on "options" on the google search results page and scrolling down. ( I already mentioned this here some time ago and earned my first rep points ! :)
2) The google "wonder wheel" is also a good way to find companies & terms associated with your key word. This too can be found by clicking on "options" and scrolling down. I have found these to be quite helpful since I started using them. All the best!

adinfinite

Thanks for the advise, I think I'm a try using this option as well and let you know how was it!
 
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While it is straightforward to try to sell names that match or are close to a company's name, what kind of pitch is best when trying to sell a key word name?
 
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Hey everyone,

I need some advice:

I own a set of .in domains that are very valuable to a USD 20mn company in India. I have had USD 50 offers on each of the domains multiple times in the recent past, but I think its for its generic value and not the brand value. Infact, one of the domain I lost to renewal and bought it for USD 150 on sedo again last year.

The company is into B2B and B2C biz and uses atleast 4-5 domains for business. The corporate email address is actually a four word .com. I own the first word in .in/.co.in

Now, this company is not well known, but I happened to be introduced to the CEO by a friend and ex-boss (who is currently CEO of a very large global company).

I then wrote to the CEO of the company I have the domain of thru the friend to check if they are interested in buying the domain. I get a response back within a few hours that they are very interested in buying the domain and bought a 2word similar .in, but my name sounds terrific.

Now my question is, what is the price I can ask for keeping in mind I made the offer to sell first. What could be my response to the prospective buyer - Can I ask him for a price in his mind, if yes, how could I word it nicely that both entices response as well as gets me a good deal?

There is hardly any other end user I can think of for the domain other than them. It is perfect for them. Its like owning sony.in when your end user is Sony-Ericsson ;)
 
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