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Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief
 
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JoshuaPz, Federer, and other big players in domain flipping:

How do you go about pitching domains to companies via phone? How do you get routed to the right person? What's your initial pitch? Do you usually have an asking price prepared before picking up the phone? Does the asking price and justification differ from an emailed offer? If the business isn't very familiar with domains, what are your best selling points that will convince them it's something to invest their money into (assuming the domain is the right fit for their business)?
 
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If we're talking a large company, your best bet is to obtain the phone number of a business development manager or marketing official via Jigsaw.com.

I would argue you have a bit more leverage in the upwards direction when citing a price over the phone than when stating it via e-mail. In communicating with your voice, have more emotive tools at your disposal to win your customer over and to build trust with him/her and you do with words only. In practice, however, I would probably quote the same price when communicating via either medium.

I will refrain from giving any further cold-calling advice here as I do not consider myself an expert in that area. I would, however, generally suggest you exercise good conversational skills such as careful listening. In most (but not all) cases, lean more towards responding to the customer's specific concerns and making him/her feel comfortable doing business with you than spitting out a pitch verbatim.

If you would like to gain some no-frills professional cold-calling advice for selling domains, here's an idea: pick an expensive name at BuyDomains.com -- ideally one you have at least mild interest in -- inquire about its price over the phone, play hardball with the sales rep ("You registered this for $8 and you're selling this for $6000???"), and note which arguments they state for purchasing the domain you find compelling and which you don't. Rinse and repeat for a different domain name / salesman. Nothing beats a little real-world role-playing!

Federer, Rob Sequin, Bruce Marler, etc. could probably offer much more sound advice regarding cold calling as, unlike me, they are natural businessmen. Many domaining professionals have expressed to me they've found cold-calling to be more time-consuming than it's worth though.
 
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Personally I can count on 1 hand the number of times I have cold-called businesses to find new owners for my domains. Although there have been a few with positive experiences in this field, I find emails is the best and most effective approach for many different reasons. One is TIME. You can easily, especially if you are well organised, pitch out 10 emails to 10 end users in under 10mins. Whereas, a phone conversation to just 1 end user, trying to get to the right department, putting over the usual sales pitch, convincing, justifying the price-tag etc. could take well into 10-15mins per lead depending on the level of interest and the waiting time between each department.
I have enjoyed excellent results pitching out a very, very simple (but powerful) email to end users - one that generates a contant flow of "how much?" emails in my inbox (had 2 in my inbox this morning).

I have published the exact email template that I send out daily to countless corporations. And it works beautifully... Check it out, use it at least 30 times over the next week when pitching exact match keyword domains, and, please, let me know how you got on - Getadomainname.net » Blog Archive » End users sales - 1st Contact - Buy and Sell Domain Names | Keyword Domain For Sale | Domain Name Blog
 
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Federer I have read your "1st Contact email" and I think it's great because of it's simplicity, however you don't get blacklisted for spam??? I can see sending 50-100 pitch letters a day and becoming blacklisted just as fast. What email service do you use??
Also what do you do if an end user website has only the dreaded [email protected] contact info and the whois info can't help?? Do you pitch to the "info@" account or???
I am looking forward to your "how much?" reply...because I am having problems with that one too.
 
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Looking for a bit of advice if any namepros guys can help. I own a 3 word .com which I have parked up on sedo, estibot gives it a value of usd reg fee - so on it's own it's not really worth anything.

However I have just noticed that a big trading company owns the .com.au and I am thinking they may be interested in the .com version.

Is it acceptable to send unsolicited emails in Australia? And should I do it :]
 
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Looking for a bit of advice if any namepros guys can help. I own a 3 word .com which I have parked up on sedo, estibot gives it a value of usd reg fee - so on it's own it's not really worth anything.

However I have just noticed that a big trading company owns the .com.au and I am thinking they may be interested in the .com version.

Is it acceptable to send unsolicited emails in Australia? And should I do it :]

If you go on their site, and find the right email/form, then ask to speak with their marketing/decision makers... this is not spam, and works.


P.S.
Don't base your evaluation only on Estibot
 
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Just wanted to say that I have used Federer's simple pitch email letter and 2h latter I have gotten a "how much" reply. I am surprised to see that the reply came from a [email protected].
Now I sent a reply and waiting to see if we agree on a price.
It is a keyword rich dot com domain and I asked for a modest sum.
Will keep everybody posted.
 
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Just wanted to say that I have used Federer's simple pitch email letter and 2h latter I have gotten a "how much" reply. I am surprised to see that the reply came from a [email protected].
Now I sent a reply and waiting to see if we agree on a price.
It is a keyword rich dot com domain and I asked for a modest sum.
Will keep everybody posted.

I have gotten how much response so many times, however nothing after that!!
good luck wit that..
 
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"How Much?"

I am looking for serious offers in the XXXX range, but feel free to make an offer
that's within your budget and we'll consider it.

I've used this with some success.
 
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"How Much?"

I am looking for serious offers in the XXXX range, but feel free to make an offer
that's within your budget and we'll consider it.

I've used this with some success.

I would think this works great with someone with strong interest but would be a turn off for low to moderate interest. So it looks like a solid approach since you really want the buyers who have strong interest.
 
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"How Much?"

I am looking for serious offers in the XXXX range, but feel free to make an offer
that's within your budget and we'll consider it.

I've used this with some success.

I thought this sounded like a measured and reasonable response to a "how much?" email. I just used it tonight and immediately got a screeching "WTF, whaddya mean $XXXX? I'm just a single mom.." email back.

WTF from me too, what's being a single mom got to do with anything?? It was a completely category defining keyword dot com, and I'd be reluctant to see it go cheaply.

Still, some interesting tips here, and you can't win them all.

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I have enjoyed excellent results pitching out a very, very simple (but powerful) email to end users - one that generates a contant flow of "how much?" emails in my inbox (had 2 in my inbox this morning).

I have published the exact email template that I send out daily to countless corporations. And it works beautifully... Check it out, use it at least 30 times over the next week when pitching exact match keyword domains, and, please, let me know how you got on - Getadomainname.net » Blog Archive » End users sales - 1st Contact - Buy and Sell Domain Names | Keyword Domain For Sale | Domain Name Blog

Hi Federer,
Your link is not working at the moment. I look forward to reading it when your site is back up.
 
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canbrit, as someone stated earliler.. your response is actually a turn off for mid or low level buyers forsure IMO (just my opinion) but hey if it works, nothing better then that :lol:

"single mom" ---> then wtf you doing spending your kids "diaper" money on domains :P
 
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I thought this sounded like a measured and reasonable response to a "how much?" email. I just used it tonight and immediately got a screeching "WTF, whaddya mean $XXXX? I'm just a single mom.." email back.

Yeah I'm not surprised you'd increase your odds of getting nasty replies to that reply approach from low interested parties.

For the risk increase of loosing low to moderate buyers and gaining their ire your reward is more scare but higher sales to high interest buyers.

I think this approach is good for already established sellers but those on the upstart and looking to just start putting up sales on the board I think you have to bite the bullet and state a reasonable figure.

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Hi Federer,
Your link is not working at the moment. I look forward to reading it when your site is back up.

I'm looking forward to seeing his reply emails. Mainly to see if he keeps the reply short and to the point just like the pitch or changes gears and talks about the value in the name.
 
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Getting end user is a difficult task. If finding them so easier, then everyone must turned out a domainer.
 
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Getting end user is a difficult task. If finding them so easier, then everyone must turned out a domainer.

My efforts at it just show me that it takes what any other sales business takes. Work and smarts. You'll face the same obstacles too. Even those that got into buying domains early - if it wasn't work that was required, it was risk in an emerging market.
 
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I sell domains almost daily to end users, and the overall plan is pretty basic -

1.) Buy descriptive domains with a clear use.
2.) Find and contact likely end users who might be interested in the domain.

Good Domains + Likely End Users + Realistic Price = Sales.

Brad

Getting end user is a difficult task. If finding them so easier, then everyone must turned out a domainer.
 
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I sold a very generic ice cream domain to an ice cream company yesterday. I sent out a well crafted email. The response is below.

Mr. Washington,
Thank you for contacting Haagen-Dazs® Ice Cream. Your offer to share your ideas is certainly appreciated.

For legal reasons, we are unable to accept unsolicited ideas from outside sources. We have our own in-house Research and Development department that works year round to improve our existing products and to develop new ones.

In order to avoid disappointing those who have contacted us in good faith, we feel it best not to ask to see the details of their ideas. Although we are unable to consider your offer, we thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Sincerely,

xxxxxx xxxxxxxx
Consumer Response Representative


My reply

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your time. I understand and respect your decision to keep all marketing ideas in house as this saves money that could be allocated in other areas. With that said we've lowered our asking price to $1,200.

If this still is unreasonable for you I understand and we will cease all emails to your organization.

Happy New Years,
(Me)
(My Phone Number)

Their Reply:

Ok, I may be personally interested. Where is it registered and how do I proceed with the transfer?

I explained the transfer process. I'm now in the 2nd step of Escrow.
 
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Well done, congrats!
No words... incredible story.
 
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classic is the word.. congrats bud!
do share name, once transaction has been completed!!
 
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