strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[maxeaus]

G-C, don't take offence that i am assuming your domain was overpriced, I'm only pointing out my own experience when dealing with people sending me unsolicited emails, often i get people saying how their domain, realybaddomainreg.com is being offered to me at $1500, which is under market value. It's a tried and true approach IMO. Best avoid it altogether is my suggestion.

 

[G_C]

Max,

No offence taken - and I understand where you're coming from. As I said, I would've been willing to let it go for lower-middle $xxx, which I really do think is under market value!

As you recommended, I'll consider removing it from the next batch of mailings (due tonight).

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Seriously, not that I mind constructive criticism, but you wanna a) get off the high horse and b) actually make constructive improvement suggestions instead of being a jackass?

Sorry if I came across as a jackass.

The response you received was obviously from someone who has finally had it with stereotypical domainer emails.

A domain they are interested in speaks for itself. One they are not interested in should not draw the response that your sales letter received. This guy took the time to respond, so that means there are others (many others) who kept these same thoughts to themselves.

Most of the end users you encounter are college educated. The problem with your pitch is that it sounds like you are trying to school someone with little to no business knowledge. It's like talking about a Barbie bicycle to a guy looking to buy a Harley. You have to elevate yourself to their level and taylor each pitch to the specific domain.

 

[G_C]

Dub,

Thanks for your feedback. The point you bring up about there possibly being many other recipients who may have felt the same way, but, for whatever reason, chose not to reply in the same manner, is an interesting one.

I guess the conclusion is to, once again, stick with short pitches, since longer ones appear to be regarded, in general, as either condescending, boring and too long to read. At the very least, the two more successful templates I've seen - those by Federer and Joshua - all generally rely on a short opening pitch, preferring to include more details in response to enquiries from interested parties.

 

[GreenGambler]

I did a big campaign a while back in which I mailed about 500 end users. I got one hate mail back saying that I'm proably sitting in a jail cell and that I need to actually do "work" to make my money.. I laughed.. I also included my phone number in my sales pitch emails and he texted me saying "What the Fu**".. lol

That was my only rude response, to date.

 

[fm1234]

krx

The few I've sold are under the same NDAs that I do for any other site, but a sample is easy to generate. Will start a separate thread for this since it sort of veers away from the original topic with research, dev etc. added in.


Frank

 

[copper]

It might be a good idea to send reminder emails to those who showed interest in your domains.
I sent 7 such emails and sold one domain (reg fee) for $3K.

This person asked price about 3 months ago and he never replied back when I said
I turned down offers in $x,xxx range.

Email basically said "Please submit your offer if you are still interested".
As simple as that.

 

[Soofi]

Email basically said "Please submit your offer if you are still interested".
As simple as that.

Lets try this with the person who just sent me an inquiry two weeks back :D

 

[asdomar]

G_C,

IHMO, here is what's wrong and what's correct in the email template you used.

Wrong:
- too long as your first-contact email (first email must be short because you don't know who is the person you are talking to)
- some grammatical errors, and too much commas in the first sentences (this blocks the enduser from read the rest)
- too much numbers and statistics (maybe the enduser prefers the name readability? You don't know what he likes)

Correct:
- you included your personal infos
- the domain name is not bad

As many pros here said, if a name is good it sells itself. This means that you mission is only to let "they" know you are selling the name, nothing more. If they want statistics you can send a second detailed email. Use the second email to convince them of the goodness of the keyword.

Send only a (personalized) short first-email, and make sure to speak with the right person (this do not necessarily means to speak with the owner of Whois...) before to explain what is your intent.

Good luck %%-

 

[krx]

krx

The few I've sold are under the same NDAs that I do for any other site, but a sample is easy to generate. Will start a separate thread for this since it sort of veers away from the original topic with research, dev etc. added in.


Frank

Great. I will keep an eye out for the thread.

 

[accuname]

With all the hundreds of emails you guys send how often have you made a blunder and sent the wrong email to the wrong person? Or put one name in the subject line and then another in the body? Or pitched the wrong domain in the body because you forgot to change it after a cut and paste?

 

[Domainace]

With all the hundreds of emails you guys send how often have you made a blunder and sent the wrong email to the wrong person? Or put one name in the subject line and then another in the body? Or pitched the wrong domain in the body because you forgot to change it after a cut and paste?

I'm not all that experienced, but that was one of my first problems. Late at night, I'm tired and sending a bunch of mails. As I recall, I think I even made a sale on one where the pitch had the name of a different person than I was writing.

To solve it, I go over my basic template and count the places that are customized (address, title, domain name, customer's company/website name, etc.) If I count 4, I make a note on a post-it, and stick it to my monitor. Before saving or sending, I just run through that checklist on each email and make sure that all 4 are correct.

The easier way is to get some software to do that for you. The only problem with that, though, is that you might sometimes send out an email that starts with "Dear [name]", like some cheesy internet marketer.

 

[accuname]

I'm receiving a few $100 offers (initial responses) to my end user emails. Who has experience with the sweet spot (like a bell curve average) for what end users who reply with a $100 offer end up buying for?

 

[gilescoley]

Interest in my premium .ae domains


I have an end-user interested in about 6 of my premium .ae domains. He has asked me to send him the prices of a list of 6 domains. I have done some research on his name/email, but it doesnt come up with a lot, but I understand that doesnt mean anything.

I dont want to underprice the domains but I dont want to scare him away with "crazy" prices. I am more than happy to hold onto the names if I dont get good $$ for them.


He initially sent me an email asking if I wanted to sell my .ae names, I emailed him saying I have quite a few for sale and could he specify "which" names was he interested in. I also said to him that these "premium" names are being targeted to large end-users, just to see if he was a joker or not. He then sent me a list of six and ask me for prices.

Is it best to just give some prices, or should I push him to make his best offer on the names??? Whats the best way to approach this??


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks

 

[b2b]

Interest in my premium .ae domains


I have an end-user interested in about 6 of my premium .ae domains. He has asked me to send him the prices of a list of 6 domains. I have done some research on his name/email, but it doesnt come up with a lot, but I understand that doesnt mean anything.

I dont want to underprice the domains but I dont want to scare him away with "crazy" prices. I am more than happy to hold onto the names if I dont get good $$ for them.


He initially sent me an email asking if I wanted to sell my .ae names, I emailed him saying I have quite a few for sale and could he specify "which" names was he interested in. I also said to him that these "premium" names are being targeted to large end-users, just to see if he was a joker or not. He then sent me a list of six and ask me for prices.

Is it best to just give some prices, or should I push him to make his best offer on the names??? Whats the best way to approach this??


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks

He approached you, so he should be the first one to make an offer. Because by you making the first move on pricing each domain, he's kinda testing you, whether you are or not a person that knows about the value of domains.

But then again, it also depends on your financial situation, and other factors, etc.....

What I'm saying is, if you're financially secure at the moment, and the reason why you bought those domains is for an investment that you don't mind holding on to untill you get a decent price, then don't under sell yourself.

However again, if you're a full-time domainer that makes money in this business to pay the bills and would be satisfied with at least 2 or 3 times ROI, then you shouldn't be greedy and hold your breath.


Recently a person inquired about a domain I own.
He asked me how much I wanted, I asked him to make an offer, he offered $200, I said $1500, then he said $300 is the last offer, I said $1300 last offer, he bought it!
So lesson is, you don't know the people you're dealing with!

Hope this helps & good luck.

P.S. I bet one of six domains he inquired was Golf.ae...Great reg btw!

 

[gilescoley]

He approached you, so he should be the first one to make an offer. Because by you making the first move on pricing each domain, he's kinda testing you, whether you are or not a person that knows about the value of domains.

But then again, it also depends on your financial situation, and other factors, etc.....

What I'm saying is, if you're financially secure at the moment, and the reason why you bought those domains is for an investment that you don't mind holding on to untill you get a decent price, then don't under sell yourself.

However again, if you're a full-time domainer that makes money in this business to pay the bills and would be satisfied with at least 2 or 3 times ROI, then you shouldn't be greedy and hold your breath.


Recently a person inquired about a domain I own.
He asked me how much I wanted, I asked him to make an offer, he offered $200, I said $1500, then he said $300 is the last offer, I said $1300 last offer, he bought it!
So lesson is, you don't know the people you're dealing with!

Hope this helps & good luck.

P.S. I bet one of six domains he inquired was Golf.ae...Great reg btw

Thanks B2B, I dont need the money at the moment, I am pretty comfortable and I will certainly hold onto the names if the offers don't compare to what I am loking for. There are better times ahead and the names will only increase in value. I know what you mean about "not knowing who is on the other end" - Thanks for the info, I will do up an email and get him to make the offer. You are right about Golf, it was first on the list lol

Thanks

 

[tonecas]

Interest in my premium .ae domains


I have an end-user interested in about 6 of my premium .ae domains. He has asked me to send him the prices of a list of 6 domains. I have done some research on his name/email, but it doesnt come up with a lot, but I understand that doesnt mean anything.

I dont want to underprice the domains but I dont want to scare him away with "crazy" prices. I am more than happy to hold onto the names if I dont get good $$ for them.


He initially sent me an email asking if I wanted to sell my .ae names, I emailed him saying I have quite a few for sale and could he specify "which" names was he interested in. I also said to him that these "premium" names are being targeted to large end-users, just to see if he was a joker or not. He then sent me a list of six and ask me for prices.

Is it best to just give some prices, or should I push him to make his best offer on the names??? Whats the best way to approach this??


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks

if it is interested on 6 of your domains that is something to take into consideration.

are they related? if yes then it can be an end-user with interest on the area of those domains so you should push up the price imho. if not, then he may be a domainer or investor. in this case i would stand to my asking price, unless you need the money.

good luck.

regards,
tonecas

 

[skulldude]

I have a fairly large company sending me an 800 dollar check for a domain and I was hoping to get peoples opinions on if they would reccomend I release the domain to them right away prior to receiving the check or should I wait until their funds have cleared?

 

[fm1234]

skulldude

I would definitely wait until funds clear. There is nothing unusual about that in any other business, and no reason you should take a chance.

krx

I'm having a bit of a Schrödinger's Cat issue with setting up a case study as proposed above. Without a real-life example, it's all just talk on the Internet; however, by putting an example site's development and sales cycle on a forum for domainers and marketers the chance of finding a buyer (when the "how to" thread is easy to find via any search engine) is affected.

I'm going to filter out my notes and procedural stuff to an expanded version of my post above and will post that in a separate thread for anyone who wants to read and/or use it. It will unfortunately lack a concrete example but I did want to do the step-by-step anyway, so hopefully that is the next best thing.


Frank

 

[tonecas]

I have a fairly large company sending me an 800 dollar check for a domain and I was hoping to get peoples opinions on if they would reccomend I release the domain to them right away prior to receiving the check or should I wait until their funds have cleared?

not even if it was from Bill Gates himself
wait for the money and then release the domain.

regards,
tonecas