strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[mwzd]

Excellent Joshua, you probably have done more for people's knowledge towards end user sales mechanics than anyone i know.

Excellent advice and practical examples to boot.

Thanks

 

[TargetNames]

Need advice on possible end-user contact

wrong thread... sorry.

 

[d0main]

Don't attempt to contact them at all. Even though they do not have a trademark registered officially, common-law trademarks still exist, and I do not doubt that they would have the rights to it if they took you to court. Parking it is dangerous too, as they can not sue you also for the revenues lost.

Plus, if they were interested in the domain, I'm pretty sure they would've picked it up if it was available for hand-reg.

 

[TargetNames]

Thanks for the input. Will move to legal thread.

 

[bgmv]

Has anyone tired selling a .biz to an enduser???

Eventhough domainers suggest that .biz is a worthless ext. I have been seeing alot of developed .biz when searching for endusers. I think that if you have the right word combo it can definiltey fit the extension. For example, I recently regd Sundials dot biz - i think that is a great domain for someone that sells sundials. I am just wondering if anyone else has experience selling .biz or any comments about the potential to sell .biz to an enduser.

 

[Lujke]

I had two attempts to sell .biz domains to end-users. One was successful, other wasn't. I owned a plural version of a product name and sent emails to a lot of companies asking if they'd be interested in acquiring it. Only one of them responded asking how much and I said $500. Didn't hear back. I sent the same email to same companies 4-5 months later and that one company responded again asking me how much. But this time it was the owner of the company. I asked for $400 and he offered $300. And we agreed on $330. Not only that, he went on and purchased the singular version of the .biz domain for $600-some on Sedo. So I did all the work and someone else got twice the money I got. I could've probably gotten more but oh well. It was my first enduser sale and I was excited lol.

My other experience is that I found a product name again and registered both singular and plural versions this time. Started emailing companies again. A few emailed back saying they're not interested. So I just let them expire eventually.

 

[bgmv]

Thanks alot for sharing your experience Lujke. I feel that I wouldnt ask for more than $400 for any .biz. I have a few that fit the extension and am planning on sending out some emails in the coming weeks, just wanted to get an idea of what to expect.

 

[NP41215]

Here you go. I've left all information intact except the recipient's name:

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Hi [...],

I appreciate the inquiry. It's important to realize that domain names are not much unlike real estate. As a case in point, it might cost you $1000/month to rent a 250-square-foot space in the Bronx for a brick-and-mortar shop, but it would clearly be unreasonable to expect to rent the equivalent amount of space on Fifth Avenue around Midtown, NYC for a penny under $5K/month. The added cost, of course, accounts for the revenue gained from planting your store in a densely populated location and the prestige of selling on Fifth Avenue. As in any other matter of business, demand determines price.

Comparing BlushBoutique.com to ShopBlushBoutique.com, the expression "blush boutique" is regularly Google-searched 2400-2900 times per month whereas "shop blush boutique" receives nominal search traffic (see Google AdWords Keyworld Tool). Since Google heavily weights closeness of match between search expression and domain name in determining the ranking of its results, you would boost your site a long way towards the #1 google match for "blush boutique" (and I notice there are many other blush boutiques out there) by acquiring this domain and then hiring a web developer to build a landing page on it.

If it will make a difference, I can lower my tag on domain's price a bit, to $400, but that has to be my final offer because I could easily dispose of this domain for an amount in the $500-$1000 range by contacting the other prospects on my list. BlushBoutique.com was initially registered 10 years ago (re-registered in '05), and it's very rare for ten-year-old domains to sell for under $500.

I look forward to hearing from you. Let me know your thoughts,
Joshua

Thank you very much Josh.

Very well done.

I've been away for several days and just logged in.

Kind regards,
NP

 

[amcdonald]

This was suggested before on another forum, and may have already been mentioned here.
I have had decent luck finding end users by buying google ads with adwords for those exact search terms in the domain, I often linked to my afternic or sedo sales page for that domain. I have sold about 5 domains this way.

 

[ripley]

This was suggested before on another forum, and may have already been mentioned here.
I have had decent luck finding end users by buying google ads with adwords for those exact search terms in the domain, I often linked to my afternic or sedo sales page for that domain. I have sold about 5 domains this way.

Interesting, I may try this out for some of my product generics. Repped!

ripley.

 

[End User King]

Sold several.. Most notable was Lionheart(.)biz, several adult type of .biz have fetched XXX.

Has anyone tired selling a .biz to an enduser???

Eventhough domainers suggest that .biz is a worthless ext. I have been seeing alot of developed .biz when searching for endusers. I think that if you have the right word combo it can definiltey fit the extension. For example, I recently regd Sundials dot biz - i think that is a great domain for someone that sells sundials. I am just wondering if anyone else has experience selling .biz or any comments about the potential to sell .biz to an enduser.

 

[Just_Dave]

I once searched google for the keywords in my domain. Contacted the people in top 20. No replies.

I don't recommend this way, total waste of time - and it probably took about 1 1/2 hours.

 

[JoshuaPz]

I once searched google for the keywords in my domain. Contacted the people in top 20. No replies.

I don't recommend this way, total waste of time - and it probably took about 1 1/2 hours.

1 in 20 would almost certainly bite if we're talking a solid .com domain relevant to their businesses. Which domain did you pitch?

 

[Just_Dave]

It was a category killer one-word .info

 

[JoshuaPz]

It was a category killer one-word .info

That explains it. .info has gained little mainstream fame.

If you try selling a category-killer .com domain to the top 20-or-so groups that appear on Google for that keyword, you'll generally receive between 1 and 3 "how much?" replies. .net or .org, you'll be lucky if you receive even 1 reply. Any other TLD, forget about it.

 

[ripley]

I completely randomly happened upon a domain earlier today that could be useful as a tool for finding endusers:

www.domain-ranges.com

It lists ranges of registered domains, so if, for instance, you had a xxxInternational.com and were looking for variations of international, you could look through easily for them. Check it out.

ripley.

 

[aliweb]

This is a wonderful thread. Just sent my first email to potential end user...keeping my fingers crossed! :D

By the way on the topic of making sure the email doesn't end up as spam and looks like from serious business something came into my mind. If you have a Blackberry then you send email from it which I guess goes through Blackberry servers and your telecom provider and has very less chance of being marked as spam. Plus it automatically adds the line at the end of email:

*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from YOUR-TELECOM ***

Which kinda looks professional. Just my 2 cents!

 

[bgmv]

This is a wonderful thread. Just sent my first email to potential end user...keeping my fingers crossed! :D

By the way on the topic of making sure the email doesn't end up as spam and looks like from serious business something came into my mind. If you have a Blackberry then you send email from it which I guess goes through Blackberry servers and your telecom provider and has very less chance of being marked as spam. Plus it automatically adds the line at the end of email:

*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from YOUR-TELECOM ***

Which kinda looks professional. Just my 2 cents!

It may not get marked as spam but it looks unprofessional in my opinion - who would type up an entire sales pitch on a blackberry, people wonder why didnt you use a computer? if you can get rid of that footer then it would be alright - otherwise i wouldnt recommend it

 

[strivehi]

After you've established contact, you'd be fine corresponding via your BB.

As your first point of contact, however, I agree with Ben.

I would stick with your primary business-related presence for initial contact.

There's no need to feint professionalism.

I tell prospects exactly WHO I am, WHAT I do and HOW I can help their business.

Just be truthful.

 

[aliweb]

Got my first reply with in 7 minutes from an end user. And the reply was "not interested"

At least I got a reply if it is some consolation :D

EDIT
Oh I got another reply with in 20 minutes from an end user. He is asking as to how much am I looking for the domain? I mean the asking price!
What shall I reply to him!? Shall I direct him to SEDO auction or ask him to give me his price range!?