domain How much can worth a top .mobi national portfolio ?

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I have the following .mobi domains (prime importance words in Romanian language ) :
domain name----------English translation
femei.mobi-------------womans
cadouri.mobi-----------gifts
comenzi.mobi----------order(s)
contabilitate.mobi------accounting
credite.mobi-----------credits (tremendous banking potential)
cumparaturi.mobi------!!! shoppings !!!
hoteluri.mobi----------!!! hotels !!!
imprumuturi.mobi------!!! loans !!!
informatii.mobi-------- informations
licitatii.mobi-----------!!! auctions !!!
pariuri.mobi----------- bets
plateste.mobi----------pay
plati.mobi--------------payments
rezervari.mobi----------reservations / bookings

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a few english .mobi :
howtodo.mobi
howtodoit.mobi
iwallet.mobi
freethings.mobi
mycv.mobi
nicegames.mobi
niceringtones.mobi


Please make appraisals for each and for the whole portfolio if you want .
Thanks .
 
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Im just giving you a friendly bump basicly, as im not too sure about values on the mobi ext, havent exactly joined that soup just yet. I personally liked freethings.mobi the most, considering it's a mobile ext. But I wouldent say more than regfee / low xx atm, but as mentioned, im not good at .mobi's so! :).

Hope someone else might help you out with the rest of the domains, good luck!.

Andree
 
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Rawandy , thanks for your comments. I will be glad if someone can appraise the hot national domains wich I have . I think that some real hot words worth a lot in every national language BUT I am looking after a decent calculation formula of their worth related to the number of population wich speak that language , per capita income , degree of technological development and any other posible relevant criterias .
 
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Some free tools you might try are domainscore.com and leapfish.com for algorithm scored appraisals.

If you are hosting the site, you might also like google analytics. It's free and you can use it regardless of your host or if you have any other google account.
 
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Romnians use primarily the .ro extension and then the .com.
If you ask me about their current value, I would say reg fee, because I assume that the omanian words do not assume traffic, and that minimum of 90% of Romanians did not hear about the .mobi extension.
The may have value in the future if .mobi rises up. try to delevop them and be one of the first persons who has .mobi sites in ro language, and then their value will grow.

From the english ones I like mycv.mobi.
 
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0-reg fee each. They may be worth more in the future... But at the present time, the only languages frequently commanding >reg fee for quality words are english, french, spanish, and german to my knowledge.
 
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alexsimon said:
Romnians use primarily the .ro extension and then the .com.
If you ask me about their current value, I would say reg fee, because I assume that the omanian words do not assume traffic, and that minimum of 90% of Romanians did not hear about the .mobi extension.
The may have value in the future if .mobi rises up. try to delevop them and be one of the first persons who has .mobi sites in ro language, and then their value will grow.

From the english ones I like mycv.mobi.

I agree with him...
Developing the domains which contain ro keywords would be a good start.
Try to find some romanian domain forums... I think they will know a lot more about the ro .mobis :)
From the english ones I like: mycv.mobi & iwallet.mobi

Mult noroc cu vanzarea lor ;)
 
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I have to disagree with the guys wich stated here that prime importance names, even if they are in a non english language, have no value . This is a statement made like if only english speaking peoples are humans and other language speaking peoples would of be some kind of aliens wich do not have any sense of business potential or understand opportunities for business wich new technologies arise .
You should consider a global market with national languages being segments of this market . Of course some segments of this global market are greater and some smaler , some more juicy and some less BUT there are some proved names wich had almost everywhere GREAT potential as general human needs and desires are the same for all humankind .
Think a bit how obvious for an english speaking guy seems to sound the words in english and how strange may sounds words in other languages . The same happens for other guys wich speak other languages ..so the first they will think and consider words in their language .
It may be a much wise decision to choose a great PROVEN potential portfolio of domains in a foreign language and then invest and do succesful business on that segment of global market than to for example buy meaningless LLL's , or LLLL's just for the sake of being short words .
As not all countries are in the same stage of technological and scientific development on a certain moment , for a guy from a more developed country there may exist the chance to "know the future" of other less developed country and have a great chance to develop some succesful business he know was done in his country on a lesser scale there .

By the way , I had received allready an offert of 150.000 euro for the 4 domain package of coresponding romanian domains for orders, informations, gifts, auctions .
 
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It's been my experience that there is a huge diversity of sale prices for .mobi names if you look on places like namebio.com. Some sell for the high x,xxx range, some for xx,xxx and some for $60 USD. Obviously this has to do with how much the seller thinks they're worth. Unless you're in a forum situation with other .mobi sellers, I've been getting x and xx quotes for very popular keywords, which in my mind is not indicative of their true value.

Earlier I suggested namescore and leapfish, but forgot to say they are tools for English language names only. If you go to a Romanian search engine and find a .mobi developers forum, you might get a more realistic indication of the names' worth.

You could park them for awhile and build up traffic if you think that would help up the sale price. Sedo and I think parked both host .mobi parking pages.

Good luck. I hope you get a great price. It will be good for you, and it will increase the average .mobi sales price which is good for all of us who have invested in the TLD.
 
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catalin_ro said:
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By the way , I had received allready an offert of 150.000 euro for the 4 domain package of coresponding romanian domains for orders, informations, gifts, auctions .

Do not take it I will give you $160k. .... You are very silly man.
 
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coast said:
It's been my experience that there is a huge diversity of sale prices for .mobi names if you look on places like namebio.com. Some sell for the high x,xxx range, some for xx,xxx and some for $60 USD. Obviously this has to do with how much the seller thinks they're worth.

Initialy their cost was 30$/ 2 years . The fact that some guys sell good domain names with way lower prices than the respective domains may worth it is only their stupidity and incapacity to corectly evaluate it + in almost all those cases the fact that the respective sellers are very poor peoples wich think to few hundreds or thousands $ (sum wich they never had it in their life ) like to a very great amount of money. In those particular cases it is the luck of the buyer to meet such naive sellers and this fact does not represent at all that the respective domains do not worth more than the sellers demanded price . Eventualy all good domains will change ownership until it will be in hand of apropiate owners wich understand their true value and the Landrush phase will end then for real .

I will stress it again that there are some real good and proven opportunities wich are destined to be money makers and wich does not worth to loose the opportunity to have it if you are an investor looking for a great investment opportunity .

For example in my case : think to the huge potential wich let's say a domain like : -filmeporno.mobi (pornomovies) might have - near all men saw them or want to see it and what can be more easy than become a member on such a site pay it's symbolic low fee monthly membership and access a large colection of movies - let's say that if you set monthly membership fee to 1 euro/month you could of gain easily 100.000 members wich will make 100k euro monthly - pure gold mine ;
- cadouri.mobi (gifts) - might have also a tremendous ecommerce potential even more than normal internet site as it will be allways easy to buy a gift from your mobile phone for the one you loves in any situations wich require it .
- cumparaturi.mobi (shoppings) - what can be more easy and modern than browse from your mobile phone and do all shoppings you want from anywhere you are at the moment - tremendous again ecommerce potential and proffits for the investors willing to develop it ;

- credite.mobi (credits) - domain wich might have a huge value for any bank and those guys really have big money and will buy it for a great money when they will eventually understand it's value and will need to have it in their portfolio .

- plati.mobi (payments) - again very huge opportunities to set up an mobile payment system with great proffit opportunity to either keep it or sell it to bigger players after some time .

- informatii.mobi (informations) - huge traffic generator site if it will be developed with varios sensitive public informations wich peoples frequently need it .

- imprumuturi.mobi (loans) - posible futuristic service of getting a loan in the very moment you need more money directly from your mobile phone - again a huge importance for any bank .

- licitatii.mobi (auctions) - huge & futuristic opportunity to servey and participate to auctions from your mobile phone - auctioneers will definitely love it .

- hoteluri.mobi (hotels) - what any tourist might look first when arive in a foreign country ? a place where to sleep - a hotel - huge opportunity for a travel agent to buy it and bring lots of new custommers to him .

By the way I setted my BIN for all listed package to amazingly low amount of 200k euro . This will not in any way mean that the package do not worth more as I am very positive that this package might easily worth over 1 mil $ , it only means that I will consider enough this amount as my gain from the business .
 
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What are the best evaluation criterias for domain names wich you know ?
 
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coast said:
Some free tools you might try are domainscore.com and leapfish.com for algorithm scored appraisals.

If you are hosting the site, you might also like google analytics. It's free and you can use it regardless of your host or if you have any other google account.

I found that leapfish.com sucks badly - it evaluated shoppings.com wich sold for over 2 mil $ for 2.600 $ . Very ridiculous tool .
 
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catalin_ro said:
I found that leapfish.com sucks badly - it evaluated shoppings.com wich sold for over 2 mil $ for 2.600 $ . Very ridiculous tool .

It only analyzes archive.org, incoming links and things like that. It can't gauge public opinion about a buyer's motivation.

Moniker is having an auction in July and they're still taking .mobi names. I can give you the name of an account exec if you're interested - pm me.
 
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catalin_ro said:
You should consider a global market with national languages being segments of this market .
to help ppl workout a value,

what percent of the worlds population speak Romanian?
what percent of these ppl use the internet?

apparently in 2005 there were 4,940,000 Romanian internet users and even if all these ppl spoke Romanian it is still a very small group of ppl for someone to target Internet wise so from that alone i cant see anyone paying much for the Romanian names as there is basically no users to generate an income from

IMO
 
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ethix said:
to help ppl workout a value,

what percent of the worlds population speak Romanian?
what percent of these ppl use the internet?

apparently in 2005 there were 4,940,000 Romanian internet users and even if all these ppl spoke Romanian it is still a very small group of ppl for someone to target Internet wise so from that alone i cant see anyone paying much for the Romanian names as there is basically no users to generate an income from

IMO

very well said

unless of course you have a BIG luck of a romanian end user with deep pockets that just love that particular name but here we are like picking a lotto ticket if not worse
 
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ethix said:
to help ppl workout a value,

what percent of the worlds population speak Romanian?
what percent of these ppl use the internet?

apparently in 2005 there were 4,940,000 Romanian internet users and even if all these ppl spoke Romanian it is still a very small group of ppl for someone to target Internet wise so from that alone i cant see anyone paying much for the Romanian names as there is basically no users to generate an income from

IMO

Thanks for your interest in my post . Apparently you do not understand that the number of land internet conections have nothing to do with the number of mobile phone owners . You may search and discover that in Romania is quite a "national hobby" to have a most up to date or esquisite mobile phone . There are romanian language speaking ppls in neighbouring countries and teritories wich once belong to Romania but now can be found in other political states like Moldova , Ukraine , F.R. Yugoslavia , etc. So the number of romanian speaking language peoples are arround 30 mil .
Let's say that from them 20 mil will be youngs or old enough that do not keep with the new technologies and still remain a market of 10 mil consumers to be targeted . And let's said that someone develop a site with "available" womans for dating on my domain femei.mobi wich means womans . Womans wich pictures to be able to see but to have to pay a small fee in order to get the contact details of someone like . If you set the fee to 1$ / contact this site alone can make hundreds of thousands $ per month . Same idea fith filmeporno.mobi (pornomovies) . And all my other domains have great business potential .

This will demonstrate again that the requested BIN (200k euro for all the packet) is a very bargain for anyone willing to invest in it .
 
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personally i still cant see the market being large enough but i know nothing of .mobi or the Romanian language/ppl

i honestly wish you all the best with the names, just i cant see any value in them but as i said above i have real knowledge on these particular names
 
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ethix said:
personally i still cant see the market being large enough but i know nothing of .mobi or the Romanian language/ppl

i honestly wish you all the best with the names, just i cant see any value in them but as i said above i have real knowledge on these particular names
Thank you . Think to their coresponding english names . Any other national names have the same value like their coresponding english names ponderated with let's say a national corector factor . It is this factor wich if you manage to determine it corectly you will be able to get their true value . Simple statements like the domain xyz.mobi have no value just because I don't understand it in my language is an egocentric biased statement .
 
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catalin_ro said:
Simple statements like the domain xyz.mobi have no value just because I don't understand it in my language is an egocentric biased statement .
i hope you don't think i am saying that?
i am basing my opinion on the amount of possible users
 
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