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How is future for 4L .com starting or ending with "VR?" VRLO.com sold for $540

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  1. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    VRLO.com has just been sold for $540 only on 24/11/2016 at 4.CN. This is very low to compare to other "VR" domain names whish was sold before. What is going on with this trending? It's so lucky that I have sold LQVR.com at $800 in July.
     
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  2. BostonDomainer

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    VRLO.com sold for a lower price then if it were being sold on a more international platform like Sedo and other auction houses, it would have been more. Some names slip through the cracks.I see VRLL LLVR and VRNN and NNVR domains raising in value tremendously but not overnight. Right now it's still very early and most sells are between domainers.

    That said... expect the trend to continue upwards as the overall demand for VR moves in same direction.

    I have a few in my portfolio but there are a few domainers with more then I who can probably provide better insights @TradeMeDomains.com @FX @gilescoley
     
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  3. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    Thanks for your commnents. For me, I don't invest into "VR" letters, just one time as a try. This trending is very hot with Chinese buyers before but now it is slow and some buyers I know they don't buy names with this trending anymore.
     
  4. techname

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    I've bought a few VR 4Ls recently and I rarely see them selling for less than around $800-$1000 and the price seems to be rising.
     
  5. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    Here is the domains which sold in Nov. officially:

    starting: VR
    vrzv.com auction $475 11/28/2016 Namejet
    vrlo.com auction $540 11/24/2016 4.cn
    vrci.com auction $710 11/23/2016 Namejet

    ending: VR
    kzvr.com auction $450 11/20/2016 Ename
    skvr.com auction $928 11/15/2016 Namejet
    ibvr.com auction $676 11/12/2016 Namejet

    Please be noted that SKVR is the largest Center for the Arts in the Netherlands, and their domain name is skvr.nl, this made skvr.com got $928
     
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  6. TERADOMAIN

    TERADOMAIN Business Member Business Account VIP

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    Hi,

    I believe in 4L.com VR and most of recent items were bought by me at Namejet private auction where it is less exposed compare to public auction. Hence the chances are more favorable to buyer to get something as bargained price. I bought 3 of them recently. Only one of them may be public auction.

    Thanks
     
  7. alcy

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    4l.com VR domains are some of the hottest things aorund now.
     
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  8. BostonDomainer

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    VR isn't another "Chinese" trend. VRLL has nothing to do with the whole CHIP market which I personally hate. I invested in VR because it's short, meaningful, and makes sense. There is an end user market for VRLL and VRNN domains meaning companies buy them for development unlike the horrible letter combinations now labled "chips". The CHIPs crash is imminent and a lot of people have and will lose money. I've been in this industry for 15 years and stayed clear of this whole chip endeavor. Invest in LLLL domains that have good letters, good vowel combinations. Buy names that can be made into acronyms, look good, or sound good not random letters like JQZK and calling it premium because the crowd is doing it. This is just my opinion of course. Do what is right for you and your bank account. I'm banking on VRNN and VRLL because they are actively sought after and used by end users for development and not held for back and forth transfer between domainers like CHIPs are.

    Who will be the last guy holding the bag?
     
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  9. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    Thank you for your advice. Actually there are a lot of Chinese buyers who is buying VRLL/LLVR/NNVR/VRNN.com, but now it is not hot like some months ago. I don't invest for VR domains, CHIPs domains because I don't have a good look on them.
     
  10. BostonDomainer

    BostonDomainer ARGuide.com Business Account VIP

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    My outlook is different. But I am open to hear your point of view. Can you tell me why you don't have a good look on them?
     
  11. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    For CHIPs, limited market, only China using them, high risk.

    For VR domains, many people talk about this trending but I don't see a good result from sales history.
     
  12. TERADOMAIN

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    Hi,

    I sold few VR+LL and LL+VR. I made good profit with those. I will still invest more in it if price is right for me. My believe in VR domain increased 10 times yesterday night. We had small gathering with our friends yesterday. 3-4 kids were playing with VR device similar to Samsung's Gear VR. I asked them what is that?? Kids replied uncle it's very cool device it's called VR. That's it. VR is strucked the cord with kids. Sooner or later VR will become household name. Even though people don't know VR is Virtual Reality but they call it as VR. That will make VR+LL or LL+VR more premium commodity because it will be short and sweet. There are only 1352 combination possible in VR+LL and LL+VR. Only 52 possible in 3l.com. Only 1 in LL.com. So basically from LL.com to LLLL.com only 1405 names possible overall in hot commodity items. Now if Chinese friends wants invest in it or not, it doesn't matter. It is rare and it will be rare regardless of our outlook.

    Thanks
     
  13. alcy

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    just keep in mind that VR is mostly about future. not about past or history.
    we are currently at 1% evolution and mainstream penetration of VR.
    and already hundreds of VR sales, tons of VR websites around.. biggest companies investing and projecting many billion market and profits in years ahead.

    the catch, of course, is that when that future occurs, like for all domaining in general, it'll be way too late for you or anyone to start investing in VR domains. it is in fact already almost too late.

    my suggestion.. if your chinese friends wanna sell you their 4l.com VR domains for
    $100-300.. don't think twice about it.

    and if you do end up thinking twice about it, then redirect them to me.

    gl
     
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  14. Dominic Belley

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    Everytime I see a good VRxx for sale under $500 I buy it because I know I will be able to flip it immediately for a profit. The demand is very strong for 4L starting in VR.
     
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    ok. but just to be clear.. I am still frist in line for the redirect of his chinese friends sellers ;)
    jk

    well said of course.
     
  16. TERADOMAIN

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  17. wesley sweatman

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    imho, 4L vr domains should be xxxx.
     
  18. wesley sweatman

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    the industry is making billions, the name should reflect the content.
     
  19. Dominic Belley

    Dominic Belley Four Letter Acronyms VIP

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    There is only 676x VRLL available. That is not a lot. One person could possible try to get them all :)
     
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    My thoughts an opinion only (y)

    VRLL & LLVR.com will continue to increase in value now and and into the future IMO... It can be used for virtual reality, vehicle repair, vacation rentals and many more abbreviations... Many domainers are still caught up in the LLLL.com CHIP buzz and some will sell VR cheaply due to the fact it has a "V"... There are many opportunities outside China and still great opportunities to buy.

    The CHIP buzz was a stroke of genius or the biggest con from a selected group of domain investors who made their money selling to other domain investors in 2016.

    Early 2015 majority of CHIPs could be purchased from $100+ (a lot $100 - $350 avg price) and the current CHIP price is domain investors trading with each other with trying to re-coop any loses from buying when CHIP were near their peak this time last year IMO. Avg chip Price went from $350 - $2200 (peak) in one year 2016

    I will purchase any VRLL or LLVR under $550 without hesitation :xf.smile:

    I sold a couple of good VRLL.com recently for $850 & $950 and could have got more but i like to leave money on the table for the buyers as i have plenty more. I only sold them to cover my renewals as i don't like to use personal cash on this. The additional sales funds is used for holiday entertainment and got my wife a present without spending any of my personal spending money. It's a great hobby that can make excellent ROI.

    There are always opportunities to find great value domains in any niche... VR will eventually change the way we use online communication. With many fortune 500 companies investing into VR is only going to continue to increase consumer interest over the coming years and the VR domains will increase in value.

    I always believe that when you find a few domain niche that you enjoy and make decent ROI stick to it as it's much enjoyable to be making additional cash than loosing it.

    Great topic BTW :xf.smile:
     
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  21. BrandingModel.com

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    How about you buy it under $500 and I pay you $550 within the hour :xf.wink:
     
  22. TERADOMAIN

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    VR + LL = 676 possibilities

    LL + VR = 676 possibilities

    L + VR = 26 possibilities

    VR + L = 26 possibilities

    VR = Only 1 in LL.com

    Total only & only 1405 VR Names possible in Hot items from LL.com to LLLL.com
     
  23. BrandingModel.com

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    + LVRL = 676 possibilities but not as good at LLVR & VRLL :xf.smile:
     
  24. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    I am sorry for my opinions to make something different but I tell you the truth I have had the chance to buy a portfolio of VRLL/LLVR.com last month under $650 per one only but I didn't invest into this.
     
  25. TERADOMAIN

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    You are correct my friend but as you said market for LVRL is still in its early days. It may pick up eventually sooner or later after jump in other 1405 names.

    You have some nice VR names with you. Very good names. Best of luck.
     

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