domain HouseProperty.com

[noy.com]

Hi,

Would appreciate opinions on HouseProperty.com name. Potential sale value to end-user, to domainer? Possible development uses?

Thanks in advance.

 

[smn84]

I'm not as qualified to offer appraisals as others on this board but i always ask the following 3 questions (obviously, i'm simplifying this a bit)...

- Can the domain be resold to an end-user? Probably not, as the name sounds awkward.
- Does the domain have good search volume? No, the exact phrase "House Property" was searched less than 200 times on Google last month.
- Can the domain be resold to another domainer who will think it has value? Yes, clearly you can.

Thus the domain does have value… not a horrible buy, but for the money there might be better options. Hopefully it works out for you.

 

[wwwweb]

This looks like a drop that godaddy warehoused in their secret domain warehouse. Anyways NOY a domain is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, you don't need to justify what it is worth to you, others have different values in the way they value domains. Best of luck.

 

[wwwweb]

He paid $1100 for it at tdnam, why would he take a loss? I bet their are bidders at tdnam that know someone wants a domain really bad, and bid it up $5 just to mess with them and mess with the time. Buyer Euphoria.

 

[gero]

Most people overbid on TDNAM once they see other bidders. Herd mentality at its best! Godaddy is clearly reaping big bucks in the process.

Everyone there is looking to only flip the names, rather than develop them. In fact, i've seen names being resold few months later for MUCH MUCH lower.

My suggestion would be, IF you can't develop the name & make it worth the price. Don't bother buying it just because u think someone will be interested in the name for MORE down the line. Esp. the "investment aficionados".

Try this: Set a page on the domain offering the name for sale for $1000 (slightly lower) and see if anyone bites. You don't have to see. Just see if someone contacts you. My bet would be, no one will..

what does that tell you if no one bites? You overpaid.. If someone contacts you, you at least know it is worth something


1k is just way too much for this name. Absolutely ridiculous in this economy imho..

 

[wwwweb]

The funny thing is, two people actually bid $1100, and I guess this guy won it by default since he bid first.

 

[noy.com]

Thanks, guys ) Very valuable opinions )

I have lots of domains, I won't get offers for, but that's beside the point ) And there is nothing awful in taking loss on some of my purchases, I am more interested on return on overall investment.

Take a look at sedo auctions at any given day and try to guess the end prices on names. I think, excel random function will have the same rate of success of guessing close as any of us for most of the names. There is a name that I'd pay 10K for, but owner does not respond to any communication and probably making very little money out of it.

 

[bgmv]

This domain has little to no reseller value and enduser value is marginal at best, about a tenth of what you paid for - the keyword orientation makes no sense to a native speaker and if most of the whopping 1800 searches are coming from the UK why not buy the .co.uk? read somewhere that uk residents go with .co.uk 70% of the time.

 

[Jaco]

Then, let's test if the term that "real estate experts" here say does not exist, is used by legislators for whom they have voted, I guess:

House property tax legislation adjusts homeowner credits and reforms local government funding « Minnesota Budget Bites

"The House Property Tax Division passed their “division report” on April 1, which are their recommendations for the property taxes and aids to local governments sections of the House omnibus tax bill."

I appreciate the comments, but guys please read previous posts.

In the case of the above cited legislation, they're addressing "property tax" legislation being debated in the "house", which is a common term for state legislative bodies. It has absolutely nothing to do with the non-existent term "house property". Again, two words occurring next to each other as a matter of phraseological coincidence, but since you aren't a native speaker (and are desperately motivated to rationalize your four-figure purchase that was just terrible), you aren't 'getting it'.

It's like this.

"House (state legislature) property tax division (legislative body)...."

You think it's like this "House property (phrase) tax division (legislative body)...." and you're 100% wrong...

This is why speculating on domains where you aren't a native speaker of the language is a total failboat voyage. You're seeing what appear to be 'examples' that reaffirm that "house property" is a valid term, but if you were a native speaker of the language, you would understand that the examples you're seeing don't support "house property" as a stand-alone phrase.

 

[ComKid]

'Home Property' is the best and is the correctly accepted combination imo. In real estate, one important detail you catch on to when trying to sell a 'house' to a potential 'Home Buyer" (not 'House Buyer" btw) is try never to refer to the property as a 'house',... but rather a 'home'. Because it is better to refer to it as a livable and personable dwelling place and not just as another piece of 'property'. It adds a more personable touch or feel to the property you're selling. Use of 'House' with 'Property' was an easy sell but it probably shouldn't have been (unless I'm missing something......I really don't think so though!)......that does leave some hope that lightning can strike twice in the same spot. %%-

.....and that those bidders are around for some of my auctions ! :blink:

 

[noy.com]

I'm not as qualified to offer appraisals as others on this board but i always ask the following 3 questions (obviously, i'm simplifying this a bit)...

- Can the domain be resold to an end-user? Probably not, as the name sounds awkward.
- Does the domain have good search volume? No, the exact phrase "House Property" was searched less than 200 times on Google last month.
- Can the domain be resold to another domainer who will think it has value? Yes, clearly you can.

Thus the domain does have value… not a horrible buy, but for the money there might be better options. Hopefully it works out for you.

Where did you get 200 times/month search info from?

Business And Search Data for house property in london

according to this page, "house property" receives 135 000 searches a month.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Has anyone here from an English speaking country ever heard the term "house property" before this thread? I sure haven't.

 

[TheRogue]

Where did you get 200 times/month search info from?

Business And Search Data for house property in london

according to this page, "house property" receives 135 000 searches a month.

according to Google, dont know what kind of authority that website(findabusiness.org) has
[img=http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7180/housepr.th.jpg]

 

[noy.com]

on the picture I see numbers for "houses property"...

And what location is it that provides 140 results out of 170 global? )

 

[TheRogue]

on the picture I see numbers for "houses property"...

And what location is it that provides 140 results out of 170 global? )

sorry, my bad, it was usa, global search is the same everywhere
[img=http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3854/housepr1.th.jpg]
This is from uk, 9900 local, usa is 390
I cant appraise as i dont have enought experience, but i too think the price was way too high for a reseler

 

[DubDubDubDot]

The domain is weak as a keyword string.

Take a look at House Properties .com though. The guy's last name is House, so it works there.

 

[bmugford]

I have never heard the words used in this context. The words don't make much sense together in my opinion.

I deal with end users daily, and personally don't see a lot of commercial appeal for this term.

I am glad the OP is happy with his purchase, but most resellers would not pay much for a domain like this.

Brad

Has anyone here from an English speaking country ever heard the term "house property" before this thread? I sure haven't.

 

[GiftedDomains]

you overpaid for it $1100

i would like to add one more comment to this thread.

i really don't like it when other domainers (not the seller himself), publish the price which the winner of an auction paid for a DN (regardless of the other discussions here) before the owner mentions it.
if the owner would like to tell everybody what he paid for a DN, ok.

 

[noy.com]

HQDomains, thank you for a great point.

I would have loved this discussion gone around what people think the value is and not about what has been paid for it.

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sorry, my bad, it was usa, global search is the same everywhere
[img=http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3854/housepr1.th.jpg]
This is from uk, 9900 local, usa is 390
I cant appraise as i dont have enought experience, but i too think the price was way too high for a reseler

thanks )

Though, again, don't understand, how you can have more local than global ))

Also, for some americans, who try to be more catholic than the Pope, can anybody explain, why in the UK, the motherland of the language, "house property" is searched 30 times more than in US, which has much bigger population? )

Home Property - is marketing euphemism and is made up to make sales easier and is linguistically wrong, since you can have 1 home usually, but can own 10 houses.

 

[ComKid]

I'll wager he gets more than 800 for it. Place bets now! :talk:

I'll contradict myself a bit here and say this name is the kind of name, regardless of correctness that has some profit potential. You shouldn't lose much, if any, by the sounds of the bidding activity there was on it. OK.....I'll say he gets over $800 and maybe profit with some development.

---------- Post added at 12:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ----------

Home Property - is marketing euphemism and is made up to make sales easier and is linguistically wrong, since you can have 1 home usually, but can own 10 houses.

Constructive argument! I think you make a good point. Maybe one for use in the sales pitch on the flip!

 

[redrabbit]

Where did you get 200 times/month search info from?

Business And Search Data for house property in london

according to this page, "house property" receives 135 000 searches a month.

Sorry about that guys, that search volume is currently being taken via the google "broad" selection which is I suppose better for offline business owners as it conveys interest. For domainers, give me a few minutes and I will add another line for it to take it via "EXACT". In regards to the domain itself (HouseProperty.com) it seems as though it may have some good potential. To be honest I can see it being developed into some type of real estate business/informational site. You may not get your entire $1100 back but you will receive a decent chunk of it.