domain help me priced macloader.com

[edwin M]

I got this domain for 6 years. what you think its value.
thank you all

 

[ZapNano]

Not bad.

 

[Dondomainer]

what would you do with macloader ?

also, macloader is a free program of mac, ( https://ipadportfolioapp.com/loader ) .. so, is not a good domain.

 

[edwin M]

what would you do with macloader ?

also, macloader is a free program of mac, ( ipadportfolioapp.com/loader ) .. so, is not a good domain.

thank you @gipson, I did not know of this program. as @ZapNano said isn't that bad of a domain. too bad there is a program with that name.

 

[james haw]

Maybe copyright issues, I do not know you'd have to research, might not be.

Without that issue, it'd have to be used pretty specifically, some kind of program or software system, but seems redundant to me.

What do you envision it being used for? What were your thoughts when you registered it? (You had some, I hope )

 

[matrigaldo]

Almost surely copyright issues, unfortunately.

 

[edwin M]

Hey @matrigaldo, I search on the us trademark online database and macloader does not appeared even once?
Any idea how I can find out if there are any copyright issues.
Thank you!
Edwin

 

[mr-x]

There are no copyright issues. If the domain has traffic and revenue, it's worth a multiple of that revenue. Depends on how popular the program is, otherwise it's just another bill at renewal time.

 

[RU]

TM zero value sorry

 

[mr-x]

If there is no TM filed, there are no TM issues.

 

[james haw]

Well I did a search and can't see any particular copyright issues, just this
http://www.udrpsearch.com/naf/1295941

"Macintosh" go by "Apple" mostly nowadays, but it's something to check because they still use "mac", ie "macbook" etc and "mac loader" is kinda obviously to do with mac computers..

Again, it was just a note to be careful. I can't see who would buy the name anyway as I see no real use for it, so maybe grace delete if you can.

 

[edwin M]

Thank you for the feedback, and I see no Obvious copyright issues, let me explain how I see it and you tell me were I am wrong.

There is a macloader program that is not made by apple and has no trademark. and they write on the bottom
"Copyright © 2010-2015 Britton Mobile Development. All Rights Reserved. Apple, App Store, and iPad are trademarks of Apple, Inc."

Macloader is not equal to "macbook", "macbooks","macbookpro". this names are the manes of actual Trademarks and many Patents. And I am sure that they try to buy this names from Owner A that own the domains first; and I bet A asked for a amount that would pay for Apple's lawyers.

There are many trade marks that start with MAC. so why if Macloader isn't going to make computers that looks like Apple and if a user is not going to gain from Apple success would this be a Copyright infringement?

I ask!

 

[mr-x]

If Apple filed a UDRP, they'd win. My decision to keep it would be based on traffic / revenue.

 

[james haw]

I was not sure, and am not qualified or experienced in this field, which is why I only made a note for you to check.

There is a macloader program that is not made by apple and has no trademark. and they write on the bottom
"Copyright © 2010-2015 Britton Mobile Development. All Rights Reserved. Apple, App Store, and iPad are trademarks of Apple, Inc."

So try to sell it to them

Macloader is not equal to "macbook", "macbooks","macbookpro".

Doesn't matter, copyright/trademarks are not limited to exact matches. Search the UDRP cases and you will see names taken by corps that were similar. Although, that doesn't mean yours will be a problem, as it's not their exact name. but it could be given the word "loader" kinda ties it to them in some way.

this names are the manes of actual Trademarks and many Patents. And I am sure that they try to buy this names from Owner A that own the domains first; and I bet A asked for a amount that would pay for Apple's lawyers.

Not 100% sure what you mean, but large corps don't buy trademarked domain names, they just take them via UDRP, often + huge expense charges to the respondent (you).

There are many trade marks that start with MAC. so why if Macloader isn't going to make computers that looks like Apple and if a user is not going to gain from Apple success would this be a Copyright infringement?

Doesn't matter. If a large corp files a complaint they usually win, not always but usually. It's about brand protection more than anything and the courts often see it in their favour.
See it from their point of view - Would you have bought "mac loader" if "mac books" etc didn't exist?

It doesn't look likely to me, but personally I really wouldn't risk it, especially as the name is not worth much (other than perhaps that company who has a "mac loader" product).

 

[edwin M]

I understand better now. THank you both.

Let me ask a question then.
I have Fancestry.com, for over 9 years. about 1.5 years ago. P&G create a site call fan-cestry.com for a football.
can they fill a UDRP? even though I had it for much longer than they have fan-cestry.com?

 

[james haw]

"from my understanding of it"
Pretty much no. I imagine very rare edges cases happen, because politics, law, and big corps have complicated matters, but only a handful, and generally I really wouldn't worry if you had the name first.

Otherwise it would be a mess. Say Namepros.com didn't have trademark, I could just register a trademark (for low money, $100?) and say "I'll take that namepros.com now thanks". $100 for namepros.com? People would be doing this in the millions and it would be a catastrophe.

Of course, you still have to be careful what you use it for, as using it with anything related to P&G's things which could infringe could cause problems and you lose the name.

 

[johname]

To answer the original question, this domain probably tops out at low xxx if you find an interested party. There just too many valid points to counter. TM, Desktop blues, Name in use free. Good Luck

 

[edwin M]

@james haw
@johname
@mr-x
Thank you for your valid points.