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It is really great domain!!!!!!! "GODFATHER" - is my lovely film!
Low $XX.XXX
 
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airwav said:
NICE domain!

I would say high xxxx.
If it purportedly makes $1500 a month parking, I'd say it'd be a bit more than high x,xxx in value.
 
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Very nice name indeed, should be very popular. I think you could easily get low $xx,xxx for it, if not more.
 
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Are there any Tm issues ? I belive now because godfather might be a generic name.. mid xx,xxx i would say.

All the best,

SW
 
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Great name, at 1500/month, you're looking at high xx,xxx; no TM issues unless you clearly aim toward a movie site
 
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low $XX,XXX; very nice domain you got on your hands. I would watch out for TM issues though.
 
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I think there would only be TM issues if you are using the name in bad faith with regards to the movie. I would say about $30k-$35k for the name, and probably only based on traffic/revenue thanks to the movie. Otherwise, the name wouldn't have a ton of use.
 
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All appraisals are way too low.
 
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BigCharlie said:
All appraisals are way too low.

What's the business application of the name such that someone will want to pay more than low to mid $xx,xxx? If you're going to say the appraisals are too low, back it up with something please.
 
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20 months revenue would be a solid investment due to the pure type-in nature of this domain. This is an example of some of the most targeted, stable traffic you can buy.

Unfortunately, there are already TM infringement issues with the name due to your parking page with Godfather movie-related links splattered everywhere (a little pun). This constitutes bad faith, as you are mostly profiting from the movie name, not the generic term. If it were mine (ooohhhhh maaaannn, if only) I would develop a website based on the lives of the real Godfathers, living and dead. I would use adsense for my revenue. This would cloud up the TM infringement waters (with blood) and make it easier to win a battle wit da boss.

That being said,

Around 20 months revenue........ $30,000
Awesome single-word .com........ $40,000

Total appraisal... $70,000 easy-peezy. More than $100,000 is a little steep IMO. Good luck, although you really don't need it with this one.
 
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:) katya, you is lucky:)
 
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id be interested to know how you got your hands on that one!

1500/month parking is absolutely amazing - thats almost enough for one person to live on each year!

good luck, katya


PS - i would not worry about TM issues at all - "godfather" has been a term long before the movie and there is no legitimate way that could be contested, IMO
 
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It's real simple. The name has cultural significance. You are welcome to appraise it at low XX,XXX if you wish, and I don't have to back up my appraisal other than to say....go ahead and put a BIN up somewhere of low XX,XXX and see how long it lasts. That's all that matters. Most people who appraise these types of names have never paid XX,XXX for a name, nor have they been offered that amount. To mention trademark issues shows a complete lack of understanding of the business as well.

If it makes $1,500 per month then on the revenue alone the name is worth at least six-figures. If the name had no revenue at all it would fetch six-figures.

And it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. People can spend their time chasing names that cannot be spelled or pronounced correctly (in extentions nobody on the street has ever heard of), or they can chase names that are actually worth something...names that have an immediate impact on the viewer when he/she lays eyes on it. The names in the second category are very exclusive names and most people will never own one.

You will look back in a few years and talk about how you should have taken out a loan to buy a bunch of these names for tens of thousands of dollars. If you only had the guts...you being people in general.
 
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Nice keywords! mid-high $xxxx! :)

-RageD
 
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BigCharlie said:
It's real simple. The name has cultural significance. You are welcome to appraise it at low XX,XXX if you wish, and I don't have to back up my appraisal other than to say....go ahead and put a BIN up somewhere of low XX,XXX and see how long it lasts. That's all that matters. Most people who appraise these types of names have never paid XX,XXX for a name, nor have they been offered that amount. To mention trademark issues shows a complete lack of understanding of the business as well.

If it makes $1,500 per month then on the revenue alone the name is worth at least six-figures. If the name had no revenue at all it would fetch six-figures.

And it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. People can spend their time chasing names that cannot be spelled or pronounced correctly (in extentions nobody on the street has ever heard of), or they can chase names that are actually worth something...names that have an immediate impact on the viewer when he/she lays eyes on it. The names in the second category are very exclusive names and most people will never own one.

You will look back in a few years and talk about how you should have taken out a loan to buy a bunch of these names for tens of thousands of dollars. If you only had the guts...you being people in general.

I do believe culturally impactful names can be sold for large amounts and be highly profitable. Dora.com for $100,000 is a good example. It also has 9 times the type-in traffic that Godfather.com has and is likely not losing any traffic to TheDora.com whereas Godfather.com most certainly IS losing traffic to TheGodfather.com, which has just as much type-in traffic.

Also, if a name making $1500 a month was worth at least 6-figures based on that alone, there would be probably 10 times the 6-figure sales than there are by now. Who knows, I could be wrong about that, but you are basically saying that a name would be worth over 5 and a half years of its revenue. Sure, a name may be worth that much based on revenue AND being a good name, but not just revenue alone. Otherwise, I've got a portfolio of non-TM-infringing poker typos to sell for $80,000.

I think the only possible chance at selling it for 6-figures is if there is an established company around called Godfather whatever that wants it that badly and won't settle for having GodfatherWhatever.com for $7. The only "Godfather" company that comes to my mind is Godfather Pizza, but I think they went belly up. Anyhow, I would suggest the seller to seek out those companies and try to sell to them to achieve max potential of the name, and you're right, there could be a potential 6-figures if the company REALLY wants the name bad. Otherwise, I don't see the name going past mid $xx,xxx. You speak of having the guts to buy good names now for $xx,xxx a pop. If you are not an established company with Godfather in your name, then IMO buying Godfather.com for $xxx,xxx would take a serious amount of guts simply to have $1500 a month and a culturally iconic name.

Anyhow, that'll be my last bit on it. I value the opinions of others and don't see your opinion as being wrong...I merely wanted you to elaborate since you were saying all of us were wrong. Thanks for the post!
 
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Don't let the horrific low multiples that are now being paid for revenue names fool you. The people who are buying at those numbers are laughing their asses off at the people who are selling. We aren't even out of the first inning of the revenue game. Crap names with good (and often suspicious) revenue are selling for those amounts, but if Godfather.com in its present state is making $1,500 per month then 150K would be a steal on the buyer's part.

If you paid 400K you would almost be making 5 percent on your money for doing nothing. The arguments about the internet going away and/or type-in traffic changing can be saved for someone else's lifetime.

The world is right in front of you and most of you still don't get the significance of the great names. The time to buy is right now.
 
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BigCharlie said:
Don't let the horrific low multiples that are now being paid for revenue names fool you. The people who are buying at those numbers are laughing their asses off at the people who are selling. We aren't even out of the first inning of the revenue game. Crap names with good (and often suspicious) revenue are selling for those amounts, but if Godfather.com in its present state is making $1,500 per month then 150K would be a steal on the buyer's part.

If you paid 400K you would almost be making 5 percent on your money for doing nothing. The arguments about the internet going away and/or type-in traffic changing can be saved for someone else's lifetime.

The world is right in front of you and most of you still don't get the significance of the great names. The time to buy is right now.
$150,000 is ten years of revenue! Domains don't sell for nearly that much. Serious buyers will sometimes buy a domain for several years of revenue, but 10 years of revenue is not a "steal." I don't think you realize how rare a 6 figure domain sale is. They do not happen often, and certainly not on this domain. You're saying that buyers are "laughing their asses off at the people who are selling", but I think that sellers are laughing their asses off at people who actually consider this domain to be worth $400,000, which is 22 years of revenue!

My appraisal? High $1x,xxx
 
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david.amherst said:
$150,000 is ten years of revenue!

Actually, $1,500 a month is $18,000 a year, not $15,000. I almost made that mistake too, hehe.
 
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