GoDaddy Backordering

[Nerz]

I was just wondering if i could get some feedback on other domainers experience with godaddy backordering. Basically i havent had a great deal of luck securing godaddy domains (or wild west, blue razor).

They seem to be able to achieve a very high renewal rate compared to some other registrars ive seen. What you say thats a fairly accurate assessment. If your waiting on godaddy drops obviously thats a bad thing .

So anyone struck it rich with godaddy backordering? They certainly have plenty of domains in there inventory...you'd think success would be a little higher.

 

[mole]

They seem to be able to achieve a very high renewal rate compared to some other registrars ive seen. What you say thats a fairly accurate assessment. If your waiting on godaddy drops obviously thats a bad thing .

A lot of truth to that, I had a domain there that I wanted dropped but they keep on bugging me to renew till the end.

Maybe with the growing cash revenue from their tdnam.com aftermarket service, they may be incentivised enough not to be so insistent on autorenew by default.

It's really a wait and see thing.

 

[.X.]

I don't recomend using them,And for this reason,They have thier auction site TDNAM,Pool is your best bet to get those backorder names you want,The reges sell off names imo,It brings big money to them from traffic buyers,Backordering is not sufficient to get the drop names you want imo.

 

[Nerz]

I thought godaddy backordering almost guarantees your right to godaddy, wild west and blue razor domains if they do actually drop. I.E unlike network solutions, register.com, moniker etc who have an agreement with snapnames, and pool who have agreements (although less formal) with a bunch of other registrars, godaddy basically handles there own drops, and doesnt have an agreement in place with these other drop services? Perhaps im completely wrong on that point...

 

[Grrilla]

For the most part, Gddy/BlRzr/Wwst backorders are good for mid-level drops. Lately, I only use them occasionally, but a year ago, I was having some good success picking up avg+ 3LL .biz and .us and would occasionally get a pleasant surprise when a higher end name, ie a dictionary word .com was reeled in. If your sights aren't set too high, you can get some nice names, but basically forget about getting a premium name w/ their services. There are too many niche registrars partnered up w/ the major drop market cos, (ie Pool, Snapnames), that consistantly beat Godady to the punch.

Off the top of my head, BabyBoomer/s_Biz, Michaels.info and a few above avg 3LL .biz domains are examples of drops that were a tad better than their norm.

 

[.X.]

I thought godaddy backordering almost guarantees your right to godaddy, wild west and blue razor domains if they do actually drop. I.E unlike network solutions, register.com, moniker etc who have an agreement with snapnames, and pool who have agreements (although less formal) with a bunch of other registrars, godaddy basically handles there own drops, and doesnt have an agreement in place with these other drop services? Perhaps im completely wrong on that point...

I think due to launch of godaddys TDNAM auction site,That guarantee can be almost voided,If there is premuim name drop at thier reg,I feel sure they wont let get away and will sell it in TDNAM,Or perhaps sell it to one of the snaps,I agree with grrilla,You may get a mid level DN from back ordering,But don't expect premuim names.It's merely a supply and demand market right now,And i don't see it getting any better or changing any time soon.

 

[Nerz]

Ya ill probably hold off a little on any further backordering purchases then, or at least set my sights a little lower. I have about 8 or 9 that i have built up over a period of time, that im desperately trying to use on some domains that are worthwhile... TDNAM adds a whole new dimension to the arguement as you rightly point out. Like you, im very suspicious of the activities of many registrars..particularly the more popular ones..godaddy, enom, moniker etc.

It must be VERY tempting these days to somehow bork the process in there favour in order to secure domains once considered average that are now premium quite expensive....Backordering seems to be such a lucrative market now...I personally think its outta control and ive said that in a couple other posts.

In fact backordering is fast becoming an elite players game, and its almost pointless backordering with smaller registrars. Can you guys envision a time when a true monopoly develops? Perhaps with say Snapnames. Apart from Enom, Snapnames seem to have the best agreements with largest registrars. Ya its extremely competitive with the big three now..but what would happen if Snapnames merges with Pool...

 

[Grrilla]

Ya ill probably hold off a little on any further backordering purchases then, or at least set my sights a little lower. I have about 8 or 9 that i have built up over a period of time, that im desperately trying to use on some domains that are worthwhile... TDNAM adds a whole new dimension to the arguement as you rightly point out. Like you, im very suspicious of the activities of many registrars..particularly the more popular ones..godaddy, enom, moniker etc.

It must be VERY tempting these days to somehow bork the process in there favour in order to secure domains once considered average that are now premium quite expensive....Backordering seems to be such a lucrative market now...I personally think its outta control and ive said that in a couple other posts.

In fact backordering is fast becoming an elite players game, and its almost pointless backordering with smaller registrars. Can you guys envision a time when a true monopoly develops? Perhaps with say Snapnames. Apart from Enom, Snapnames seem to have the best agreements with largest registrars. Ya its extremely competitive with the big three now..but what would happen if Snapnames merges with Pool...

There's another practice that has recently emerged which adds additional backordering woes to the small-med independant name marketer/developer. As discussed in a previous post, many registars- particularly the smaller ones, (ie the B/O specialists), are now using a rule that was intended to protect them from creditcard/pmt fraud to pick up drops and "test run" them to check thier potential for traffic, marketability and monetization potential. This was first brought to my attention when I received an email from a registrar w/ an offer to purchase for a name I had lost in a backorder attempt, three days earlier. I didn't respond, and 2 days later, the name dropped again. A registrar can register a dropped name, hold it and if they drop it within 5 days, the registry gives them a refund. Again, this policy was established to protect the registrar from fraud and was not intended to act as a mechanism to give registrars the additional advantage of prescreening names for their monetization and marketing potential. I know, from inside sources, that this practice is peing hottly debated within the registrar community and that, in general, the larger registrars, (the ones most of us use), are coming down against the practice, while the smaller registrars are crying "foul!" and telling the big boys to stay out of their business.