domain Gangsters.com - Almost 11 years old - What do you think?

[Domain Jedi]

Gangsters.com

Ideal for..

A massively multiplayer (Gangsters themed) online role-playing game (MMORPG).

A music label/brand.

An ecommerce site for Mafia/Gangster related DVDs, books, products etc.

What do you think?

Thanks for looking. :D

DJ

 

[namenut]

I'm a bit torn... Great name and a good high value (low $$,$$$) but the
use is a little limited to a more mainstream or traditional historic play.
Not a good play for the "hip hop" crowd. This is the proper spelling of
the word. The "hip hop" crowd slangs gangster with ... Gangsta

"Gangsta" would realize as much if not more than the proper spelling.
Sadly ... it is simply parked. But then so is "gangster".

Great name .... Good luck with it.

NN

 

[owntype]

Great name for game niche! Low $1x,xxx resell.

 

[snoop]

We are resellers, we would not pay 1/5th of what it's worth.

Plus most people here do not have 10-20k lying around for a single purchase.

Yada yada.

If it was worth worth 25k-50k people would be willing to offer half that in a flash. They'd make 12.5k instantly if the offer was accepted. Of course they won't because deep down they know it isn't really worth what they say. It is a good name, but mainly a collectors name and most of these appraisals are plain silly.

 

[bmugford]

Snoop, why are you always in such a bad mood? Go outside and get some fresh air or something.

Brad

Yada yada.

If it was worth worth 25k-50k people would be willing to offer half that in a flash. They'd make 12.5k instantly if the offer was accepted. Of course they won't because deep down they know it isn't really worth what they say. It is a good name, but mainly a collectors name and most of these appraisals are plain silly.

 

[taktikz]

It's a great domain...

 

[zoogo]

Yada yada.

If it was worth worth 25k-50k people would be willing to offer half that in a flash. They'd make 12.5k instantly if the offer was accepted. Of course they won't because deep down they know it isn't really worth what they say. It is a good name, but mainly a collectors name and most of these appraisals are plain silly.

Selling domains is never a sure thing.:wave:

 

[snoop]

Selling domains is never a sure thing.:wave:

The fact is they must have no confidence in their valuation if they won't even offer half.

 

[zoogo]

The fact is they must have no confidence in their valuation if they won't even offer half.

I have to invest in every domain I appraise? Not to mention a 5-figure investment?:lol:

 

[snoop]

I have to invest in every domain I appraise? Not to mention a 5-figure investment?:lol:

I can guarantee you nobody will offer anywhere near their 25-50k aprpaisals.....nobody. All it does is fill domainers with hot air.

Though yours with "Approach rappers and record labels you'll get mid-high $$$,$$$" looks to be the most unrealistic appraisal in the thread so far.

 

[Domain Jedi]

Would say 5-10k, it is nice sounding name though has little commercial focus or enduser potential, it is a domainers domain. The people saying 25-50k are on another planet, I challenge them to even offer one half of what they say it is worth.

Snoop,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would be willing to bet you $1,ooo USD that I will double your 10k appraisal within the next 12 months (at least $20,000 USD) selling this domain.

I plan to be around for the next 12 months so the timeline shouldn't be an issue for you.

Seeing how you are asking our fellow domainers to put some money where their mouth is, care to put some money down on your expert appraisal?

P.S. If I have the website developed out into a full blown website (not a mini-site), the bet is off.

 

[lzy]

Without a doubt, I'd go with a gangster/mafia style online game.

Sweet name. :]

 

[jdenwar]

I would say minimum 20K for sure......


Its a nice domain..imho...

 

[zoogo]

Snoop,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would be willing to bet you $1,ooo USD that I will double your 10k appraisal within the next 12 months (at least $20,000 USD) selling this domain.

I plan to be around for the next 12 months so the timeline shouldn't be an issue for you.

Seeing how you are asking our fellow domainers to put some money where their mouth is, care to put some money down on your expert appraisal?

P.S. If I have the website developed out into a full blown website (not a mini-site), the bet is off.

Good point, lets see if he stands behind his ludicrous accusations or proves himself to be a hypocrite.

I can guarantee you nobody will offer anywhere near their 25-50k aprpaisals.....nobody. All it does is fill domainers with hot air.

Though yours with "Approach rappers and record labels you'll get mid-high $$$,$$$" looks to be the most unrealistic appraisal in the thread so far.

Do you figure that the Hip-Hop industry, one that is obsessed with image and flaunting riches and publicity, will be the least applicable to a name that may catch media attention for its large numbered sale - which is a bonus for the parties to offer more for it - and will give particular artist(s) much more hype and cache over others? Yes, that sounds totally insane. Totally insane.. Can't remember the last Eminem or 50 Cent that got really famous over a lot of media attention.. No rapper has ever done that... Ever.. Got me there....

And its pretty easy to guarantee no one will offer near their appraisals, because you don't know if they're interested in this domain. The point that you clearly missed in the message of mine that you quoted is not everyone who appraises a domain wants that domain. The other point you also clearly missed is that not every domain is guaranteed to sell, even one like this. So any investment for resale is a potential 100% loss. Some of us would like to make wiser decisions - because it is not the best investment does not mean its value is decreased. Which directly ties into the third point that you clearly missed - we are resellers, that is most likely the purpose of considering buying this domain for every person who replied in this thread. We have profit in mind, and a high ROI. With 5 figures, I can invest in several hundred other domain names with which I will have much more confidence in a higher ROI, and would be more useful to me in the long run; putting all your eggs in one basket may work for you, but it is not a tactic I like.

You are also looking at this through the eyes of a reseller. Through the eyes of an enduser, this domain has huge potential media hype and is a goldmine for the Hip-Hop industry, especially for a record label trying to boost the image of a new up and coming artist.

To Domain Jedi I strongly suggest you consider my valuation, suggestion, and the fact that the amount is drops in the bucket for the potential of a record label to be interested.

Good luck.

 

[jdenwar]

And its pretty easy to guarantee no one will offer near their appraisals, because you don't know if they're interested in this domain. The point that you clearly missed in the message of mine that you quoted is not everyone who appraises a domain wants that domain. The other point you also clearly missed is that not every domain is guaranteed to sell, even one like this. So any investment for resale is a potential 100% loss. Some of us would like to make wiser decisions - because it is not the best investment does not mean its value is decreased. Which directly ties into the third point that you clearly missed - we are resellers, that is most likely the purpose of considering buying this domain for every person who replied in this thread. We have profit in mind, and a high ROI. With 5 figures, I can invest in several hundred other domain names with which I will have much more confidence in a higher ROI, and would be more useful to me in the long run; putting all your eggs in one basket may work for you, but it is not a tactic I like.

Great point.. Repped++

 

[snoop]

Snoop,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would be willing to bet you $1,ooo USD that I will double your 10k appraisal within the next 12 months (at least $20,000 USD) selling this domain.

I plan to be around for the next 12 months so the timeline shouldn't be an issue for you.

Seeing how you are asking our fellow domainers to put some money where their mouth is, care to put some money down on your expert appraisal?

P.S. If I have the website developed out into a full blown website (not a mini-site), the bet is off.

Can you explain how I'd win this bet given it sounds like if you can't get the price you want you'll develop the site and/or hold it for 12 months? The name needs to be sold for a bet to be fair it doesn't work if you hold the right to sell it or not at any particular price because you could just refuse to sell it for under 10k and hold it indefinately.

I think a fair bet would be if you put it up for auction with no reserve.

How about this,

-You put the name up for auction with no reserve within the next month.
-If it goes for 10k or under I win. (my max value)
-If it goes for over 20k you win. (your minimum value)
-If it goes for anywhere in between the person whose is closest in dollar terms wins.

Bet amount: $100

---------- Post added at 08:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 PM ----------

Do you figure that the Hip-Hop industry, one that is obsessed with image and flaunting riches and publicity, will be the least applicable to a name that may catch media attention for its large numbered sale - which is a bonus for the parties to offer more for it - and will give particular artist(s) much more hype and cache over others? Yes, that sounds totally insane. Totally insane..

Yes it is insane. The most likely buyer is a domainer and nobody is going to pay the half million you think the name is worth. Essentially you are arguing the name is worth alot as a potential publicity stunt to a crazy rapper, it is just nonsense.

 

[GiftedDomains]

Hey Snoop, first of all we are talking about Domain Names (highly speculative Commodity).

So, the way you look at all the other appraisals is more like a mathematician with a formula, expecting a 100% correct result and a guarantied xxx,xxx sale within the next year, in order to accept our appraisals.

And this simply doesn't work with DNs.

If someone says xxx,xxx , it means that this COULD be a potential Sale in the future, in the RIGHT time to the RIGHT Buyer after the RIGHT Marketing. I mean if absolutely everything comes together, then xxx,xxx could be possible.
And maybe we are talking about only a handful of potential buyers who MAYBE would buy such a name with such price.

Of course, if seller would have bad luck or would be a bad seller, then he will never be able to sell this DN for more than 10,000, but that doesn't mean that the potential is not there.

Such an Appraisal doesn't mean that everyone would buy this DN for xxx,xxx or even low xx,xxx.

If you ask me, i would maybe pay 3,000 or 4,000 now. Not more. Because i am a Domainer, a lowballer and want to be on safe side. BUT he already OWNS the Domain Name, so he got nothing to worry about, and therefore we can give such optimistic Appraisals, as such Price ARE POSSIBLE.

---------- Post added 07-18-2009 at 12:17 AM ---------- Previous post was 07-17-2009 at 11:51 PM ----------

btw, i think Snoop wants to buy this DN and is just trying to drive down
the price to 10,000, then sell it to Coolio for xxx,xxx ...lol (j/k)

YouTube - Coolio feat. Snoop Dogg / Gangsta Walk

 

[Albert]

I think it is best for A massively multiplayer (Gangsters themed) online role-playing game (MMORPG).!

 

[Domain Jedi]

I think it is best for A massively multiplayer (Gangsters themed) online role-playing game (MMORPG).!

I couldn't agree with you more.

Here is an interesting article I read about crime genre games on the web:

How the Mafia conquered social networks | The Social - CNET News

Sounds like there is some fat cash to be had in this online gaming niche. It would be totally awesome to build out a MMORPG on Gangsters.com much like WOW has with WorldofWarcraft.com.

What do you guys think?

 

[GeoOwners]

I couldn't agree with you more.

Here is an interesting article I read about crime genre games on the web:

How the Mafia conquered social networks | The Social - CNET News

Sounds like there is some fat cash to be had in this online gaming niche. It would be totally awesome to build out a MMORPG on Gangsters.com much like WOW has with WorldofWarcraft.com.

What do you guys think?

best use ...yes

but do you have the millions of dollars to pull of the programming?

 

[Domain Jedi]

best use ...yes

but do you have the millions of dollars to pull of the programming?

My first matter of business is to contact existing companies with existing products out on the market in order to form a joint venture..