debate ExpiredDomains Goes Down, what is your plan B?

[KnifeCatcher]

It worries me how much we rely on that tool, and what would happen if it goes down or if Marco decides to pull the plug

Are there alternative tools? Is it easy to build an alternative? I know that getting API access to data from exchanges is not straight forward and their data is unstructured and a nightmare to deal with

 

[L3af]

Why would he pull the plug he's making insane affiliate income off his excellent website.

 

[KnifeCatcher]

Why would he pull the plug he's making insane affiliate income off his excellent website.

Just a hypothetical scenario

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

what would happen if it goes down or if Marco decides to pull the plug

Someone would build a replacement, but it would take quite a while to reach feature parity.

FreshDrop was an alternative back in the day.

There are paid services that are similar: DomCop, Spamzilla, Domain Hunter Gatherer, RegisterCompass, and Karma.Domains.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

what is your plan B?​

This would be an interesting experiment:

Download the expired lists from each platform, upload them to ChatGPT, and ask it to return the domains that meet your specifications.

Alternatively, ask AI to write you a script that will parse the lists according to the filters that you use. That will likely create a very effective solution.

 

[NameHaven]

It worries me how much we rely on that tool, and what would happen if it goes down or if Marco decides to pull the plug

Are there alternative tools? Is it easy to build an alternative? I know that getting API access to data from exchanges is not straight forward and their data is unstructured and a nightmare to deal with

Hello
Check domainradar.ai
It reveals for free numerous high quality com,net,org,io,couk domains that will be dropped everyday
This tool is a gem,saves a lot of effort and time

 

[DNSSEC]

This would be an interesting experiment:

Download the expired lists from each platform, upload them to ChatGPT, and ask it to return the domains that meet your specifications.

Alternatively, ask AI to write you a script that will parse the lists according to the filters that you use. That will likely create a very effective solution.

Even so, the workload is not small. Moreover, some will not allow you to access data at will.

 

[KnifeCatcher]

This would be an interesting experiment:

Download the expired lists from each platform, upload them to ChatGPT, and ask it to return the domains that meet your specifications.

Alternatively, ask AI to write you a script that will parse the lists according to the filters that you use. That will likely create a very effective solution.

I have tried that, I was surprised by how bad the quality of the output I received was

Mind you, I was using o3 high

I have given it examples of what constitutes a good domain name

Then again, maybe I suck at prompting

 

[KnifeCatcher]

Even so, the workload is not small. Moreover, some will not allow you to access data at will.

Yep you need to convince each registrar to give you access to their data API. Even ones that do have a public API do not make all the data readily available (I looked into godaddy i cannot remember what was missing - maybe bid price. They asked me to fill out an application form for a "partner". I never bothered)

then you need to parse the data yourself

The work Marco has done on expiredomains is not easily replicable

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Even so, the workload is not small. Moreover, some will not allow you to access data at will.

That's true, but all the major ones provide downloads: GoDaddy, NameCheap, NameJet, Dynadot, DropCatch, etc.

Easily downloadable lists cover 99% of the expired market.

The more difficult part is the filters, which AI should be able to create scripts to handle.

P.S. Love your username!

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

I have given it examples of what constitutes a good domain name

It won't be good at this with today's AI models.

It'll be much better at specific criteria, like what you set on ExpiredDomains.net, such as:

1. The domain name must be composed of solely English or Spanish words, without mixing languages.
2. It must end with the TLD: .com, .net, .org, .ai, .co, .xyz, .io, .ca, or .de.
3. It must contain exclusively ASCII letters: no hyphens, no numbers, and no IDN characters.
4. It must be a maximum of 10 letters.
5. Etc.

You can also download the top keywords, according to registered domain extensions, from DotDB for a one-time fee. Then you can upload that to AI or tell AI to use it in the scripts that it creates. That'll allow you to add more filters, such as:

• Only include domains with keywords that have at least 20 registered TLDs.

The best results would come from using a service like Cursor to create software that does this for you.

Good luck!

 

[pb]

Hello
Check domainradar.ai
It reveals for free numerous high quality com,net,org,io,couk domains that will be dropped everyday
This tool is a gem,saves a lot of effort and time

All that these lists do is make sure there will be more bidders on dropcatch/snapnames.
I'm not saying they're not useful, just that not only for us.
It used to be that people who put in the work had the edge over the rest.
Free tools level the playing ground but the real winners are dropcatchers.

 

[dncafe]

A lot of people run there own private script/site with the same functionality. They hired someone to create a "clone script" of Expireddomains, then they tie in their own API's to source the domains, and they connect their preferred registrar through an API so they can one click reg any domains they want

Nowadays you could probably get an AI coding site to create something similar with limited scripting work needed

 

[DomainNature]

I use my 6th sense, first I get a expired domain in my mind, next day I can go browse ExpiredDomains and see that domain in the list, this means that for me such websites are not critical.
However I agree that such websites are useful.
As an example I have hand reg many domains, thinking they are the first time registered and my own ideas, however later I have found through Archive org or ExpiredDomains websites that the domains were dropped by their owners.
I also have found out that I can get in my head today some words, then after some days, weeks, months or years I hear or see those words in movies, read on websites, listen to music or play a game etc. Then I chk my txt document where I wrote the words at that time and mark them "this was from a recent movie" but this one "was from a game" and so on.
I hope one day to know 100% which domain will sell or which lucky ticket to buy so I get it straight to the treasure.

 

[Exot]

nice bait

 

[markfromslo]

I wish Expired Domains would charge $100/month for use. And I don't care if he keeps his affiliate links. $100/month is nothing if you are a serious domainer, and then I would not have as much competition. I bet he could get 1,000 subscribers which would be $100K a month additional income.

 

[VadimK]

I wish Expired Domains would charge $100/month for use. And I don't care if he keeps his affiliate links. $100/month is nothing if you are a serious domainer, and then I would not have as much competition. I bet he could get 1,000 subscribers which would be $100K a month additional income.

I bet he was thinking about it 1000 times and let the idea go every single time.

For $100 a month his traffic is gone (won't make much sense with the affiliate links). Competition both public and private will pop up like mushrooms after the rain. Domainers will start to build their own tools just more customized to their needs. It's not a cutting edge technology, and with the help of AI, registrars and APIs, it would be a matter of time for him to lose both clients and traffic, big time.

I think he is playing very smart by keeping it free.

 

[Hypersot]

I made a suggestion to him, twice in the past, to introduce a subscription model... I got ignored both times . Note that he *never* ignores emails. I believe he knows exactly what he is doing.

However, I strongly agree with the OP. One should never rely solely on one channel of income/tools/partners/etc. At least one backup plan is a necessity.

 

[itsmeiori]

I wish Expired Domains would charge $100/month for use. And I don't care if he keeps his affiliate links. $100/month is nothing if you are a serious domainer, and then I would not have as much competition. I bet he could get 1,000 subscribers which would be $100K a month additional income.

In the end of the day ExpiredDomains is just a cloned version of registrars expired marketplace!!
how you can avoid competition!!
and you have to be brave not the seriousness you needs!!

 

[AEProgram]

parsing names and creating filters is not the issue, the issue is getting all the other data he gives for each name

 

[DTR Alex]

Expired Domains is a good website (lots of features). An ordinary developer can't make such websites... and this website is very good until the owner is greedy like Namebio.

 

[Saldin]

Expired domains is my best website tbh

 

[Lakshan]

Im not yet sure about the plan B. But I would like to say that I have updated massive amount of knowledge on expired domain hunting just reading few posts from this thread.

Thanks

 

[markfromslo]

In the end of the day ExpiredDomains is just a cloned version of registrars expired marketplace!!
how you can avoid competition!!
and you have to be brave not the seriousness you needs!!

Huh?

 

[Brands]

It won't be good at this with today's AI models.

It'll be much better at specific criteria, like what you set on ExpiredDomains.net, such as:

1. The domain name must be composed of solely English or Spanish words, without mixing languages.
2. It must end with the TLD: .com, .net, .org, .ai, .co, .xyz, .io, .ca, or .de.
3. It must contain exclusively ASCII letters: no hyphens, no numbers, and no IDN characters.
4. It must be a maximum of 10 letters.
5. Etc.

You can also download the top keywords, according to registered domain extensions, from DotDB for a one-time fee. Then you can upload that to AI or tell AI to use it in the scripts that it creates. That'll allow you to add more filters, such as:

• Only include domains with keywords that have at least 20 registered TLDs.

The best results would come from using a service like Cursor to create software that does this for you.

Good luck!

I'll try to build it on Expiredi.com ( Ai for Expired domains ). Many thanks