.eu Junk Dump In Progress - Thousands Dropping Per Hour

[jmcc]

It looks like the Junk Dump is happening with .eu ccTLD. Thousands of .eu domains are being moved into quarantine every hour now. It will be interesting to see what will be left of this joke of an extension with the smoke clears. The UK has lost about 85K of its .eu registrations (approx 19%) so far. I'm not sure yet what impact this has on the value of .eu domains.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Sameh]

still nobody can register .eu if he isn't European ?

 

[jmcc]

still nobody can register .eu if he isn't European ?

Hasn't stopped thousands of people. Technically there is a nexus requirement but some of the warehousers have used UK and Cyprus based front companies to get around the nexus requirement.

Regards...jmcc

 

[abdussamad]

It looks like the Junk Dump is happening with .eu ccTLD. Thousands of .eu domains are being moved into quarantine every hour now. It will be interesting to see what will be left of this joke of an extension with the smoke clears. The UK has lost about 85K of its .eu registrations (approx 19%) so far. I'm not sure yet what impact this has on the value of .eu domains.

Regards...jmcc

What is a junk dump?

 

[jmcc]

What is a junk dump?

Basically people register all sorts of domains in a landrush in the hope of selling them or developing them. But when it comes up to the time for the first renewal (anniversary of the landrush), the domains that could not be sold or developed tend to be dumped as junk domains.

This Junk Dump phase can shrink a TLD by about 25% to 50% after the first year. Right now it is at 10% with .eu but it will increase over the next few days.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Spade]

. The UK has lost about 85K of its .eu registrations (approx 19%) so far. I'm not sure yet what impact this has on the value of .eu domains.
Regards...jmcc

Wow..... talk about not having as good a year as last year.... Thank goodness for them domains have almost no overhead costs.

Justin

 

[jmcc]

Wow..... talk about not having as good a year as last year.... Thank goodness for them domains have almost no overhead costs.

It is heading close to 100K now for dropped UK .eu domains. But Some of them are squatted/warehoused domains regged by front companies in the UK. Even so the rate at which domains are being dumped is amazing. The core EU countries are dropping them quicker. Poland just dumped about 5K of them. Ireland is dumping about 20% of its holding as well (about 6K already). It isn't a collapse yet but if this rate of loss keeps up, .eu will be only equal to .biz in a few weeks or so.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Name Trader]

I let ALL my .eu domains expire. I picked up about 50 adult domains with good keywords when the registry opened it's doors to normal people. I got carried away coz they were so easy to find with good keywords. Traffic was non-existant. (alright, alright, I know the cardinal rule about not parking new domains). I guess all those Europeans still get their titilation from the .com's I couldn't justify holding/developing them for the long haul.

 

[Dotmainer]

but there was, for example something good for me,

long time ago have seen domain name *.eu on sedo and i was
interested in it, so if i asked a buyer .. maybe 200 eur or more,

some weeks/months later it was quarantained and dropd so i get
them for about 10 eur

:bingo:

 

[zehrila]

In past few hours time i have seen a massive drop of over 50k domains and it looks like its going to go under 2 million.

 

[jmcc]

In past few hours time i have seen a massive drop of over 50k domains and it looks like its going to go under 2 million.

Between 29/April and 30/April, over 65K .eu domains were moved to quarantine or dropped. If the .eu ccTLD goes below 2M, it will be very serious for EURid and the European Commission. Though interestingly, I noticed that about 10K of one squatter operation's (Kurt Janusch/XSS.RO) domains had apparently dropped or gone into quarantine. (I have to verify this yet but the domains I checked are all in quarantine.)

Regards...jmcc

 

[Sam]

jmcc interesting indeed. The .eu fiasco coming into light. Crumble Crumble

 

[Dotmainer]

why .eu fiasco ?
I don't see anything false on that.

 

[jmcc]

jmcc interesting indeed. The .eu fiasco coming into light. Crumble Crumble

Yep damitssam. Though I think that Eurid is hoping to sweep all that controversy under the carpet with the name drops. Over 65K domains were wiped out on the 30th of April alone. The deletion process seems to have stopped on the Eurid page. The sooner there is a criminal investigation of the whole .eu ccTLD Sunrise and Landrush process the better.

Regards...jmcc

why .eu fiasco ?
I don't see anything false on that.

The Sunrise was squatted to hell with bogus Belgian fast track trademarks and dodgy front companies. The rights validation operation PwC BE did not do a good job. 80% of UK and Irish businesses did not get their .eu in Sunrise 2. Hundreds of thousands of domains were warehoused and squatted by non-EU players using phantom registrars and UK and Cyprus front companies. The EURid registry was so utterly incompetent that it was sued by one of these operators (Ovidio syndicate) and Eurid lost for breaking its own rules. These EURid morons failed to take action to stop the massive fraud in .eu ccTLD that led to the collapse of confidence in .eu amongst the European business community. The .eu ccTLD is regarded as a joke in Europe. That's the .eu fiasco in a nutshell.

Regards...jmcc

 

[wot]

Plain and simple - eurid have only themselves to blame for destroying their own, and what had the potential to be a good extension.

 

[jmcc]

The hard part is trying to figure out if the crap software Eurid uses for registry operations is doing the deletions/quarantining in batches or in real time. Over 65K .eu doms were d/qed yesterday and at least 260K have been d/qed since the beginning of April. I have grave reservations about the accuracy of EURid's published figures and I think that the auto-renewal thing is going to hit a lot of domainers in the next few weeks.

Regards...jmcc

 

[UKZJ007]

Ooops, I just realised all my .eu domains have been dropped too - even the very good ones.

 

[Kate]

If the .eu ccTLD goes below 2M, it will be very serious for EURid and the European Commission.
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Oh it will go under 2M. The junk dump is a good thing.
Then it will grow again - albeit at a slower pace.
Just like .info at some stage they were being given away for free.
I believe .eu is here to stay but you are right to say the bad handling by eurid has got .eu a tarnished reputation. And with the warehousing of good names there is little incentive for developing domains.

The rights validation operation PwC BE did not do a good job. 80% of UK and Irish businesses did not get their .eu in Sunrise 2.
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I read that even PWC has failed its own .eu application the first time...

 

[gazzip]

Is there anywhere you can see which ones are getting dumped ?

I renewed the majority of my ones :tu: I still have faith it will get better once the dust settles and even if it does'nt one of them is paying for all the others so I'll just have to develop some more !


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[jmcc]

Oh it will go under 2M. The junk dump is a good thing.
Then it will grow again - albeit at a slower pace.

Yep but that slower pace could take about five years or so. It seems to be deleting and quarantining in batches so it will probably take a while to go through the 2M mark.

Just like .info at some stage they were being given away for free.

I don't think that they were being given away for free initially. But even that might be necessary to restore some kind of growth.

I believe .eu is here to stay but you are right to say the bad handling by eurid has got .eu a tarnished reputation. And with the warehousing of good names there is little incentive for developing domains.

I am tempted to post lists of the domains warehoused and the identity of the warehousers. One of them has been acting all high and mighty about domain squatting matters recently and he and his buddy have been identified in ADRs (.eu WIPOs) as cybersquatters/warehousers and have lost a few ADRs.

I read that even PWC has failed its own .eu application the first time...

Even worse than that, approximately 80% of the UK and Irish companies and businesses that applied for their trade name as a domain did not get it in Sunrise 2. That killed it in the two main English language markets in Europe.

Regards...jmcc

Is there anywhere you can see which ones are getting dumped ?

Well XSS.RO has taken serious hits. That's the Kurt Janusch operation in Romania. The Westerdal/King operation has been trying to hide its domains by removing the dns from them. (name-services.com lost about 35K .eu domains so they are split between Westerdal/King and genuine registrants - the bulk are W/K). Enom has a pile there from its EU front operation as well. I'm still working on the breakdowns across the other hosters.

I renewed the majority of my ones :tu: I still have faith it will get better once the dust settles and even if it does'nt one of them is paying for all the others so I'll just have to develop some more !

There is very little natural development in .eu at the moment. Indeed the problem has been that there has been no big pureplay in .eu using .eu as its primary brand. The bozos in Brussels with their europa.eu.int to europa.eu flip do not count.

Regards...jmcc