question Estibot ? vs GoDaddy

[invirzone]

Hello guys ,
i tried a bunch of names on estibot , but i never have an estimation over 100 $ . its normal ? or i must have a premium subscribe ? i type the estibot .com and i have a trademark blabla red message .
what do you think vs godaddy and freevaluator ?

Thank you

 

[karmaco]

Back to the question, valuators are inconsistent and not to be relied on for pricing IMO. I do check but it really has zero to do with how I price a name.

GD valuator I find the most valuable for seeing the similar comps they show. Also it could help a newbie because it tells you if a word is considered in a general sense high value or popular at the time.

 

[karmaco]

Indeed, karmaco, I put that too clumsily and you have gone too far in the other direction!

If a trademark is flagged it makes good sense to check on that trademark because if using the name infringes - karmaco is correct to say it may not, but if it does - the user runs the risk I stated earlier.

Yes it depends on the intended stated use. Someone could allready use a Trademark name in finance while someone else wants to use it for selling handmade goods, or home decor or fashion. Take a very common word like lets say boom and see all the trademarks. Also if the name was registered way before the company wanting to use it existed its not automatically bad faith.

 

[dna]

what is a bios?

A BIOS is the name for the firmware in the ROM (read only memory) in your computer. A BIOS boots your computer upon startup and initializes the computer's internal integrated circuits.

 

[StartupNames]

I use estimations from GoDaddy and Estibot but honestly, they're not accurate. I just get ideas from these sites but still price the domains according to how I think they should be properly priced at.

 

[redemo]

Trust Estibot to a degree because at least it includes useful stats like search volume. GoDaddy valuations are utter nonsense. 100% intended to make newbies register domain names - whether they be valuable or absolutely worthless. Ask yourself why "related sales" never display the sale date? Do not use GoDaddy valuations.

 

[frank-germany]

thank you frank .
well , i have this one as example : onlybios .com /

estibot : less than 100$
godaddy : 1100 $
freevaluator : 1800 $

what is a bios?

 

[invirzone]

what is a bios?

bio products for example .

 

[frank-germany]

bio products for example .

the name is a drop
IMO

as far as I know they are called "organic"

 

[invirzone]

the name is a drop
IMO

as far as I know they are called "organic"

yep , exactly . and in some groups the call themselves ( bios)
thank you so much frank for your time

 

[invirzone]

Here is the real value of each name if you want to use MessMeBot or Godaddy appraisal:

Let say the appraisal value is A and he real value is R
Multiply the value by 2 - R=A x 2
Divide the result by R=R / 2
Subtract 25 from the result R = R -25
Add 36 to the total - R = R +36
Multiple the result to 0 - R = R * 0
Add whatever the price the buyer will buy R = R + the actual price from the buyer

I used this formula and I have the exact price 100%

Good luck,

impressive ,
thank you so much for sharing
have a nice day

 

[invirzone]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271086959910359041

Hard to value a unique asset with a common tool that can't factor that in the equation.

agree with him .

 

[lock]

Blue book can also be considered a scam as it is used so insurance companies justify low ball figures for damaged cars. Last time i looked an E type Jag convertible was about $30k mint but try find one under 100k.

 

[lock]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-do-i-valuate-domains-and-set-an-asking-price.951601/

So you do ignore the data then you won't see any benefit from them or find any use for seo tools.
What you do isn't wrong but the only data you consider is what someone else did sales history no point ignoring all data because don't agree on price.

 

[lock]

Sorry to say but I didn't understand your message clearly.

By the way, I don't buy or valuate any domains based on seo factors because I don't invest in such type of domains

All i am saying is they aren't just random generators there is data that could be contributing towards your choices.

 

[lock]

We can all agree on the price is wrong.

 

[lock]

I consider all the data is based on minimal factors and not good enough to trust any domains valuation.

I've sold domains which Estibot have always showed (whenever checked) completely wrong. Nowhere near to what I sold for. I don't even bother checking it for last many years.

Also Estibot manipulate the data and adjusts their valuation very close to the sold domain price. I've witnessed this on several of my sales and others here at NamePros have reported the same.

A company is purposely misguiding domain investors to believe in their corrupt valuation system.

Your basing result against price. Is any attempt of creating a system a form of corruption or should it be considered impossible and book makers etc should just offer random odds.

 

[lock]

It doesn't matter if a domain is sold yesterday there still is the probability of a second sale never same.
The data isn't going to be influenced on previous sales that is up to the domainer to analyze or a bot would have it registered.

 

[lock]

is that "validation.site" yours?

then congrats.

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That is valuation.site "where the price will be wrong but the data spot on".
It is traffic based no site equates no traffic.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Hello guys ,
i tried a bunch of names on estibot , but i never have an estimation over 100 $ . its normal ? or i must have a premium subscribe ? i type the estibot .com and i have a trademark blabla red message .
what do you think vs godaddy and freevaluator ?

Thank you

Collectively I use appraisals from GD, FreeValuator, Estibot/Epik, Nameworth and the best one of all myself.

Of the five, i find Estibot to be a joke, and I can provide plenty of examples. As a professional in the domain name business I feel it's my obligation to use every tool available to help my clients make better decisions.

 

[lock]

I don't care for traffic
that is the job of the new owner

Without human intervention even then an opinion the valuation will be based on traffic as a bot can only speculate based on given factors. Godaddy will give the feel good appraisal for highest numbers.

 

[lock]

so why do you think valuation based on traffic
gives a domainer any help
when it's about finding a price for a domain w//o much traffic
that fits end-users

-most domains have no meaningful traffic-

I don't but apart from sales history there is no other way to speculate almost every business uses data to speculate. If you had choice to buy 2 names one will out perform the other. It all isn't gospel it is a guess.

 

[lock]

I am not here to say bots get it right they don't but nobody builds a random number generator they try to put in influencing factors there isn't ever going to be a right valuation by price the words valuation survey and appraisal covers the scenario and by definition speculation.

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

absolutely true

when they are not aware of the sale
they keep on showing the BS price
even if I sold it for a completely different price
estibot of today:
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better but stil BS:
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I sold it 6 fig

So you sold paysafe.de in 6 figures USD?

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

euro

Wow! You did great job!
And I've MySafePay in .com

 

[Kingslayer]

I take no notice of either.